"she doesn't have to serve anyone at the lunch counter. As long as the sign up-front says "whites only" you know upfront. you confuse personal choice with..." hahaha....
anyways a girl with too many preferences in general beyond screening is not a girl in need of money imo. just a girl that wants to see how many dudes she can get to drop cash on her and get an orgasm...aka she wins all around.
I'm curious as to why a Provider would prefer or state that services will not be provided to Black men. Is it truly a preference, where I find that's difficult to believe in this line of work where the client's appearance is unknown until the time of the appointment? Also taking into account that some Providers don't even post their actual real photos but can choose to not offer services based off of race. Can someone client or provider enlighten me on this please?
They have a black pimp and/or boyfriend especially with BP girls. Some BP girls will put on a confederate flag bikini if they are down right racist so to speak.
High end Girls probably had a bad experience....or have a black bf and do it out of respect. Agency girls tend to be open-minded or they will not last too long.
Also, some big spenders will not see girls that see black men. Black men are not a major percentage of clients in lots of areas and at certain rate levels.
My theory:
Providers think black men will attract more attention to/from their hotel and arouse some sort of suspicion of illegal activity. Black men get followed in stores even if they have on a suit and tie....people unfairly pay more attention to the traffic of black males and can be seen as a liability in the hobby.
She does not have to see anyone . As long as you know upfront so what. It is not like their is only one lady available for guys of any race. You confuse appearance with personal choice-whether you agree with it or not.
"she doesn't have to serve anyone at the lunch counter. As long as the sign up-front says "whites only" you know upfront. you confuse personal choice with..." hahaha....
anyways a girl with too many preferences in general beyond screening is not a girl in need of money imo. just a girl that wants to see how many dudes she can get to drop cash on her and get an orgasm...aka she wins all around.
y CB4 tittle lol.
I wonder about this tho, If you have a ter id and p411 would it still be
An issue? I mean if a thug is posting on this site and has a p411 or dc account
Then I question his role in the streets. I mean I grew up in the hood
Like most of us. Still rock my baggy jeans and timbs. I'm also a professional.
(I'm over 40 so skinny jeans and chucks aren't my style). Most of the women
I have seen have been cool. Lol I prefer other races, my take is that I can get a civvy sista
Anytime I want. (No ego just natural selection) so go for someone outside your norm.
The chicks that don't want us..... Their loss. The ones that have... Love us to death.
End the end we are all just one color....green.
But thug/criminal behavior aint limited to the hood though, lol. See meth labs and moonshiners in the neighboring state of west virgina. Brothas aint even really mixed up in that, lol.
Crack vs cocaine BS....which ever is associated with black is painted worse.
We all have personal preferences for some reason or another.
A lady has a choice to limit her clientele just as we gents have a choice to limit who we want to see based on our own preferences.
Would you feel the same way if a lady said she would not see anyone under the age of 40? or anyone who has red hair? or anyone who is more than 5 lbs. overweight? These are ALL forms of discrimination of some sort.
As long as a lady is upfront about her preferences, I am OK with it. It is her preference and while I may not agree with it, I defend her right to have that view (just for the record, in this particular case I do not agree with it - I have seen ladies of many different nationalities and from various ethnic backgrounds).
Bottom line? Unless you have traveled in another person's shoes, you simply cannot fathom what their experiences were and how those experiences have shaped their current perspective.
Would you feel the same way if a lady said she would not see anyone under the age of 40? or anyone who has red hair? or anyone who is more than 5 lbs. overweight? These are ALL forms of discrimination of some sort.
race is for life in anyone's case including Micheal Jackson, lol...other variables change over time.
granted i'm between 27-32 and I go for the younger girls 18-24 anyways. But as a consumer discrimination is the norm....and the provider of services is thankful for any respectful business and tries to attract people that are not normally interested in their services.
But I do question the dudes that support the infamous body rub girl Robyn (226286) that was wearing a confederate flag bikini on the Eden Models website (Will never use their services as I know what they stand for/advertised), on the Indy ad in Nova, and on the Indy ad in NY. Are those dudes supporting a KKK member? They don't sell her bikini choice at the mall! I don't support girls with blatant racial discrimination be it my race or not...and question the guys that visit them. But I bet if a girl had a Swastika bikini on an ad the response would be much different from the community and a significant lose of business from non-Jews would occur too.....
...and this pretty much confirms my assumption.
Would you feel the same way if a lady said she would not see anyone under the age of 40? or anyone who has red hair? or anyone who is more than 5 lbs. overweight? These are ALL forms of discrimination of some sort.
race is for life in anyone's case including Micheal Jackson, lol...other variables change over time.
granted i'm between 27-32 and I go for the younger girls 18-24 anyways. But as a consumer discrimination is the norm....and the provider of services is thankful for any respectful business and tries to attract people that are not normally interested in their services.
But I do question the dudes that support the infamous body rub girl Robyn (226286) that was wearing a confederate flag bikini on the Eden Models website (Will never use their services as I know what they stand for/advertised), on the Indy ad in Nova, and on the Indy ad in NY. Are those dudes supporting a KKK member? They don't sell her bikini choice at the mall! I don't support girls with blatant racial discrimination be it my race or not...and question the guys that visit them. But I bet if a girl had a Swastika bikini on an ad the response would be much different from the community and a significant lose of business from non-Jews would occur too.....
You are entitled to your opinion.
The stars and bars, dose not look too different from the Union Jack at the top of the screen.
I must question your support of this website, are you a racist.
You are entitled to your opinion.
FWIW I don't support girls who don't go all the way.
Hi
Usually its because of their past bad experiences with black men. Predominately, its men of color who are more aggressive, cheaper, tend to negotiate more, attempt to rob you, and have bad attitudes.
Its seems a bit unfair but men of color just are more aggressive clients.
Don't worry, there are other ethnicities that get excluded. I know a few ladies who prefer not to see Mexicans because they are "rough" or some East Indians because of their scent.
I personally do not partake in denying someone based off race but I also have not had the bad experiences that some women have had with men of color.
Good Luck & really don't take it that personal. It really is based off a provider's past experiences.
Hi, what do you mean by aggressive ?
Usually its because of their past bad experiences with black men. Predominately, its men of color who are more aggressive, cheaper, tend to negotiate more, attempt to rob you, and have bad attitudes.
Its seems a bit unfair but men of color just are more aggressive clients.
Don't worry, there are other ethnicities that get excluded. I know a few ladies who prefer not to see Mexicans because they are "rough" or some East Indians because of their scent.
I personally do not partake in denying someone based off race but I also have not had the bad experiences that some women have had with men of color.
Good Luck & really don't take it that personal. It really is based off a provider's past experiences.
so all black men are the same based on the perhaps negative actions of a few, sista? Thats okay in your book? Brothas is responsible for and must pay for the actions of another brotha...but the actions of a White man are independent of race?
Do rappers not make songs about over spending/making it rain on strippers...not tricking if you got it...and being in love with a stripper? .... why not at least the sterotype for loving adult entertainers and putting them on pedastals apply to black men?
If ladies are extra newbie friendly you can expect more issues from any race. I doubt much of any issues ever occured from well referenced black men. Were these black men date check or p411 at the least that these ladies had issue with?....i'll wait...
Usually its because of their past bad experiences with black men. Predominately, its men of color who are more aggressive, cheaper, tend to negotiate more, attempt to rob you, and have bad attitudes.
Its seems a bit unfair but men of color just are more aggressive clients.
Don't worry, there are other ethnicities that get excluded. I know a few ladies who prefer not to see Mexicans because they are "rough" or some East Indians because of their scent.
I personally do not partake in denying someone based off race but I also have not had the bad experiences that some women have had with men of color.
Good Luck & really don't take it that personal. It really is based off a provider's past experiences.
.... the very few bad experiences I've had (haggling, rough, rude etc) were mostly with white clients (not black or other races/ethnicities) but it'd be pretty well stupid for lack of better words to cut out all white clients because then about 70% of my business would be toast.
So....most black clientele I do see (black men make up about 15%-20% at best of who I see) or get contacted by aren't in the least bit aggressive, cheap, rarely mention discounts (that I offer to members etc) and don't negotiate, have NOT tried to rob me or have poor attitudes.
Bad experiences is just one of many reasons ladies can say no black men. But *sighs* I kind of feel like a few bad/negative experiences = cutting them all out is pretty lame. I don't see other races/ethnicities get excluded at the level of black men though and I think quite a bit of it is undeserved especially since they overall are a small portion of the hobby pool.
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Thanks MsMocha.
I didn't know we could haggle or ask for discounts. Hate to say it but IMO that
Is "white man privilege" thing. Lol I'm so happy to get the chance to bang out (to aggressive 😜)
Make sweet tender love while reciting sonnets about her Beauty.
.... what I did understand "I didn't know we could haggle or ask for discounts."
I didn't say you could do either (or should anyways) .... why technically you could it's probably a good idea to do either ESPECIALLY if she doesn't offer any discounts and/or you're a new/first-time client. Don't recommend trying to haggle either (no bueno) .... pisses most providers off lol. As a consumer of a different kind I don't approach something I want to buy (in this business you'd be renting actually lol) until I can afford the asking price or I wait for a sale/special.
I didn't say you could do either (or should anyways) .... why technically you could it's probably a good idea to do either ESPECIALLY if she doesn't offer any discounts and/or you're a new/first-time client. Don't recommend trying to haggle either (no bueno) .... pisses most providers off lol. As a consumer of a different kind I don't approach something I want to buy (in this business you'd be renting actually lol) until I can afford the asking price or I wait for a sale/special.
Haggle with a provider. That is something that I wouldn't have the balls
To do for fear of being black listed. My comment about sonnets was me
Being sarcastic about black men being Aggressive Hence me saying banging her
Out..... The white man privilege..... You stated that most of the issues you
Have had has been from white clientele. A person must feel like they can get
Away with it in order ask for such things and treat a person in a way that is not friendly,
and not suffer any consequences. ( not all white men
.... count on my 2 hands. But out of those few experiences more were white than men of color.
I don't think being abusive is a white privilege but very few of us have and will ever see 'no white men' or 'black men only' ads because most hobbyists are white. I like to think I screen pretty well so I get almost no problems out of anyone white or black or asian etc. If you're in this to make as much as possible as a paid companion you will not cut out those who are spending most of the money. You shouldn't treat a majority a group a certain way (negatively) on the actions of a few which is why I said though there are many reasons why some will say NBA but if one of those reasons is just because you've have a few bad experiences well who hasn't. Most won't create a NWA policy because most of their business would be gone and they know it. I'll stay equal opportunity because I like MEN of any race/ethnicity/mix and enjoy seeing different types of people.
I know providers who will not see men of certain ages, race, and of a certain weight! We are human and have preferences. If a provider is truly enjoying what she dies it makes sense she might say no to a certain type of man. It happens in civvie life and no one should take it personally.
Some guys will only see spinner types, others hate implants and so in and so forth. What's wrong with a person having the right to choose who they share their body with?
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Some guys will only see spinner types, others hate implants and so in and so forth. What's wrong with a person having the right to choose who they share their body with?
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Is desperate ? Only asking sense it was the OP question about
Refusing to see black men. If so thanks for the honesty. ( no judgement)
I just refuse to believe anyone non black is more attractive than a good looking black guy. Duck Dynasty guys over Denzel Washington or Will Smith(no homo), lol? Really?!?!
Because "no black" doesn't judge weight and personality...it's a blanket physical preference. Danny Devito before Tyson Beckford because of white skin (no homo)? *laughable*
No she equated being desperate with seeing a guy a provider wasn't comfortable with due to a particular characteristic of said guy that might be his age, weight and/or race. I actually had a provider refuse to see me because one of my provider references was black (I am white). Just shrugged my shoulders and moved on - it's her loss.
....i've seen it in a handful of provider profiles (including on P411) where a lady stated she wouldn't see black men or any client of any race if any of their references (or anyone they'd reviewed) were black. OUCH! lol
or any where. They can see or not see anyone they wish, but if they actually don't want to be exposed to clients who see non-white providers. They are in the wrong business.
its always dissapointing when i see that on ads, because i fit alot of stereotypes about young, black men...but im a nice guy lol but when i see it, i just move on...i was temped to email a girl, just to ask why one time, but i decided against it...i realized that i didnt really want to know the answer