LOL.Would any of you gentlemen ever have a serious relationship with an escort you met for appointment? (Leave wife, introduce her to friend,family.... Etc) if not, please explain.
Much love,
Adri
Met the family, friends, etc. Some of them are visiting tonight and staying over. No different from a relationship with a civvie girl at this point.
You didn't even read the post did you.
She asked "Would any of you gentlemen ever have a serious relationship with an escort you met for appointment?"
My answer is Yes
it would only happen if I was single.
I would have a serious relationship with a woman I met here, just as if I met her anywhere else. Given that she felt the same, meeting friends and family would be a requirement that applied to us both. Honestly, I think that declaring a relationship with friends and family is probably one of those essential things that helps overcome the doubts, insecurities and stigmas of the "escort/client" relationship - beware the bf/gf who won't let you meet friends or family, as they may have something to hide.
The real challenge is probably getting to the "meeting friends" stage in the first place. There can be so much fear of betrayal, baggage, misperception and guardedness to overcome
I have the best woman for me already. I love my wife and she loves me. It isn't a knock on the ladies that I see, but I love my wife too much to hurt her by falling in love with any other woman. But I have developed serious friendships with ladies I have met doing this, even took them home to meet the wife. But a romantic relationship is out, not because she is a sex worker or how we met but because my heart is taken.
Forgot to put that in. It is relevant to the answer.
Your wife has to know that you do this or else who do you introduce the escorts as to her
I do this because I like women and I really like seeing different women from time to time. I haven't been in any relationship that worked when the girl said, "Go fuck all the women you want." Providers don't care if I see others. In fact, they expect it, so I'll keep it P4P because that's what works ... for me.
Much love,
Adri
When I am in relationships, because I expect them to be okay with my providing services to other gentlemen- I consider our relationship open. MEANING: 3 somes YES. Swinging YES You seeing other providers: YES
The most important thing about the relationship- to ME is honesty. You better tell me about each and every lady, except you better NEVER say they are hotter/better in bed then me, you better lie about that! :-P
Much love,
Adri
Did I mention that I like to sleep in the middle of the bed?
The most important thing about the relationship- to ME is honesty. You better tell me about each and every lady, except you better NEVER say they are hotter/better in bed then me, you better lie about that! :-P
Much love,
Adri
allowed all and allowed him be a pig - he would be ..
ONLY woman keep man feel good about himself
Woman which is strict
Word of true man
It is not a question if you have had relationship with provider but if provider is a woman
or just .. a proud provider who allowed all and think it is what man like
Men Like real women ..
as I am :
Hhaha
But I would not marry myself to any of those who are here
I also love one woman man
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I don't think any of us are here looking for our next ex ... well, there are a couple of stalker-fuckheads on here so I may be wrong ... and I sold my soul a long time ago ...
ONLY woman keep man feel good about himself
Woman which is strict
Word of true man
It is not a question if you have had relationship with provider but if provider is a woman
or just .. a proud provider who allowed all and think it is what man like
Men Like real women ..
as I am :
Hhaha But I would not marry myself to any of those who are here
I also love one woman man
Selling my soul would be like selling my liver, who in their right mind would ever want it. lol
and yes, there are a few fucktard stalker types on the boards who are looking for "more" more than is being offered that is for sure.
It was at crossroad and I was supposed to play the guitar like a Mo Fo, but the only thing I play like a Mo Fo is myself. Guess that liver would only be good for Pâté since it been well marinated LOL Cheers.
and yes, there are a few fucktard stalker types on the boards who are looking for "more" more than is being offered that is for sure.
the woman, of course.
Already left the wife six months after I started seeing escorts.
The hobby did not give me the reasons to end my marriage (those began a t least a decade before), but it helped give me the courage to do so.
I know two escorts I would introduce to my family right now in a heart beat. Not because I am in a serious relationship with either, but because they are both awesome people that helped me change my attitude, and hence my life, for the better.
At the moment I'm quite happy flying solo. But if I wanted an SO I'd probably prefer a prostitute. I have some very nice friendships with several and I tend to like the women who are part of this lifestyle. I do have another "fuckbuddy" relationship with a woman in this game but she's a female monger, not a hooker. I hope next time I see her we'll be joined by a hooker I'll let her pick. We have very similar taste in women anyway
wow.. I thought most replies would be "hell no" lol... happy to hear that some of you would actually have a relationship with a girl who was an escort and have no judgment about it. I wonder if one day, in an argument, the subject would be brought up, though. Very cool that you guys were sincere and realistic in your responses and took the time to reply. Two thumbs up. That's why I love this board.
Much love,
Adri
In the heat of the moment, it very well could be brought up - by either party.
One thing I have learned is that women never forget ANYTHING. Not even the most miniscule detail and they will crucify for you it too.
“You’re just a little boy, Alyosha, so here’s a piece of advice for you: never ask the woman you love for forgiveness! Especially if you really love her, however guilty you may be before her. A woman is so peculiar, Alyosha. Damn it, that’s one subject I really know quite a bit about. I tell you, the moment you admit to a woman that you’ve wronged her and ask her to forgive you, she’ll never stop showering you with reproaches. No woman will ever just forgive you for what you’ve done. First she’ll humiliate you as much as she can and remind you of all the mistakes you’ve ever made, and even of those you never made; she will forget nothing and add plenty, and only then will she forgive you. And that’s how the best, the nicest of them, act! She’ll scrape the bottom of the barrel and pour it over your head- it’s an instinct in those angels, without whom we cannot live. You see, Alyosha, my boy, I’ll tell you frankly- every self-respecting man is bound to land under the heel of some woman at one time or another. That’s my conviction, or rather a feeling I have. A man should be forgiving- it will never degrade him. Forgiving will not stain even a hero, not even Caesar! And yet you must never ask a woman to forgive you- anything rather than that! I want you to remember this rule, taught you by your older brother Mitya, who perished because of women. No, I think I’d better make it up to Grusha in some other way, without asking her to forgive me.”
The moral of the story is absolutely true. The adage - think twice, speak once is so very important in a relationship.
but I do have an ex provider, ex GF, current FWB who has been FaceBook family with my mother for years.
and for the record, I have dated many women who either do this or have done this for a living and I have NEVER used the pathetic "You're just a whore" response when having a fight with any of them.
I meant it with great respect as the highest of compliments. Have you ever seen a girl smile with her mouth full of cock?
and feel you would probably be the best bf for a gal who kept doing this during this career.
Be your wing man anytime.
and for the record, I have dated many women who either do this or have done this for a living and I have NEVER used the pathetic "You're just a whore" response when having a fight with any of them.
Yeah, but did they call you a "whore"?
and for the record, I have dated many women who either do this or have done this for a living and I have NEVER used the pathetic "You're just a whore" response when having a fight with any of them.
I can just imagine the first time she said "Not tonight Honey. I'm exhausted from work today."
Hahah awkward :/
but some guys can rise above the temptation to rub her nose in it.
There are benefits and challenges to having an LTR with a woman that does this for a living. Obviously some guys have issues they can't get past, like having their woman come home too tired to "put out" Others can rise above those type of things. BJN apparently is one of those guys incapable of dealing with this, the good news is that no one is forcing him to do so.
I would not seriously date anyone who has had many sexual partners, especially one who accepts money for it. Yes, I subscribe to many double standards
only with hot Brazilian women who stay horny..
Much love,
Adri
I guess that was the year your were born. That makes you 71 now.
I hope that I still can perform at that age.
Is there a secret to this?
But it has nothing to do with the escort thing. Escorts I have met are a lot fun and I enjoy talking with them outside the bedroom. However, at the moment, the odds of me pursuing a serious relationship of any sort are zero. If I were interested in a serious relationship I would not be doing P4P - which is basically sport fucking. It's fun, I enjoy the hell out of it.
I do P4P specifically because there is no possibility of confusing a nice roll in the hay with anything more serious
But if you are looking for love? Go to the library, and find the best looking Nerd you can..
...that my life has taken, entering into this little world.
So, I just take things as they come, learn and grow.
Anything is possible.
I've met hundreds of gals here and few come from a similar background that would make "us" compatible.
Forging a relationship is a serious matter. And takes a ton of work.
Been there, done that. Not interested in working on it again.
Much love,
Adri
I don't have a wife. If I did I wouldn't be hobbying.
Much love,
Adri
In fact, I married her just over a year ago.
About 15 years ago I had another very close relationship with a gal while I was married and during those few years prior to my divorce when my ex was tolerating my hobbying.
This particular gal ended up babysitting my kids while the ex and I took vacations. It was a very odd arrangement, I'll admit. She became fairly close with my daughter for a while and started giving her guitar lessons even, and my daughter would go and stay with her on weekends occasionally.
maybe you should ask yourself why none of your relationships last?
there's a saying that once fooled shame on you, twice shame on me
About 15 years ago I had another very close relationship with a gal while I was married and during those few years prior to my divorce when my ex was tolerating my hobbying.
This particular gal ended up babysitting my kids while the ex and I took vacations. It was a very odd arrangement, I'll admit. She became fairly close with my daughter for a while and started giving her guitar lessons even, and my daughter would go and stay with her on weekends occasionally.
...jumping into the deep end of the pool and making a fool of yourself.
So far you've praised Rod Tidwell, the board piñata, and somehow deduced that none of mrfisher's relationships have lasted. How would you know how long mrfisher's marriage lasted?
You better stay in the shallow end of the Newbie board pool.
From another post by Bobby:
You should know the people I know.
Hey Bobby, for all we know you could be sitting in your basement on the computer dreaming of seeing the beautiful sexy women many of us here ACTUALLY do see. Until you have some cred on the boards, you are just another attention seeking troll. I'd take Big P's advice. Figure out who's who in the zoo before you make a fool of yourself, again.
You act like the opinions of strangers matter, they don't. It might be wise to lurk and learn if you put weight on the opinions of strangers. I just don't see the value of caring. The worst thing that can happen is someone calls you a mangina or some other petty insult. As the official KING OF THE MANGINAS, I will like to inform you that isn't that bad. Hell, the person his post was aimed at didn't mind why do you clowns?
My advice to Bobby, post away and have fun. Don't worry about those that don't like you. Do listen and learn but if someone isn't happy with you, just let it pass.
DON'T matter and I didn't say they did. On the other hand, I actually know some of the posters here and respect their opinions, even if I don't agree with them. But scoed, you have been around here long enough to know that when you start out with the post I referred to it is probably not going to go well for you here.
BTW, I was having fun, just what you recommended to Bobby.
And, YOU just gave him a variation of the VERY same advice BigP did. Listen and learn. Sheeesh
You should know the people I know.
My advice to Bobby, post away and have fun. Don't worry about those that don't like you. Do listen and learn but if someone isn't happy with you, just let it pass.
And like you there are people here whose opinions do matter to me. But Bob is new so he likely doesn't have that yet. BigP and my advice wasn't the same. His advice was shut up, listen and learn least you up set people, mine was listen and learn but post and don't worry if you upset people. There is a difference. Yes things can get tough here. I know as I used to be the board pinata. But I learned not to care about that and had fun with it. And over time I made friends out of some of the same clowns that used to take swings at me as a pinata. Things here are more fun if you post and not worry about the fall out. As a man who was labeled the king of manginas, I speak from experience it just isn't worth worrying about.
But I bet you've been called worse. LOL.
LOL.
mr fisher enjoys basking occasionally as a piñata, not in a needy sense like Rod, more in a light hearted comical Rodney Dangerfield way.
mr fisher is the last guy here , other than me, who needs another poster to defend him.
That's my take on mr fisher.
In your defense, I'm immensely more astute than you.
So far you've praised Rod Tidwell, the board piñata, and somehow deduced that none of mrfisher's relationships have lasted. How would you know how long mrfisher's marriage lasted?
You better stay in the shallow end of the Newbie board pool.
Neither you you nor mrfisher know you've been had. So you're both in good company with BPS. Yep, you're astute all right! LMAO!
I do know you try to pass as a woman, a very ugly woman, with an enormous
nose, no doubt. That's old news.
Seems like the answer is "no."
That's fine. Keep masquerading as someone who has a brain.
First of all, I would not say that none of my relationships with women last.
I was married for almost 20 years, which isn't such a bad run, and I've been with my current amorata for almost ten years.
The gal I mentioned that I knew 15 years ago was someone I had a very close relationship with for about 10 years before she disappeared. I found out from a friend of hers that it was the green eyed gonzagas that led to her departure once my current sweetie and I became an item. By that time our relationship was platonic at her insistence and anyways, I had offered her a chance to be my soul-mate and move in with me after the ex moved out, but she demurred, so she had her chance. She has some issues anyways, so most likely she did me and herself a favor. She has never had a real steady boyfriend much less a soul-mate as long as I've known her. (~30 years.)
Add to that that I am still seeing providers I've known up to 35 years, and I think it is safe to say that long lasting relationships have not been a problem for the most part.
Don't you two live in different cities and only see each other from time to time?
And that is my point. Sure, I am not against a relationship with a provider. But the path to some kind of committed, romantic relationship is necessarily going to be different from the norm, and require navigating lots of difficult transitions for both of you.
As has been said many times before - P4P is not a good place to look to fall in love. Yes, it can happen, and many of us have long term relationships of one sort or another with our hooker friends (I am almost three years into my current one), but they are very different from traditional GF/BF relationships and are very unlikely to morph into a committed, romantic relationship without a lot of effort and commitment. And what you end up with is going to be very different from what you started out paying for and first fell for.
Of course, being married for close to 30 years, that relationship has required a lot of effort and commitment, too. As it happens, it no longer includes sex, thus my hooker/friends. I suppose that if I was not married both the escorts I choose and what I wanted from them might change a bunch. But I think it is more likely I would keep on with the same escorts and just start dating as well.
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and get together about 6 times each year for 2-4 nights on average.
I actually communicate more with her than I did with my first wife who lived under the same roof with me, but withdrew and became quite distant.
Well that's where I'm at now. Never expected to like her. Really glad I met her. I was just looking for a Provider to replace the one I was seeing that moved out of state. But somehow things progressed between us.
...Provider has is with the Father of her children. Here are a couple of your own posts to refresh your memory:
Does the Father of her kids know what she actually does for Money? Does her family know? Has she told anyone about you? When is she leaving the Father of her kids for you?
I'd be proud to have a current or former provider, they are after all my favorite people.
I simply have no desire for, nor do I want anything more than what I get with P4P.
Life is good.
Given my age and accomplishments, I could care less what other people think and would have no problem revealing a personal relationship with a hooker. The flip side, at my age I can't imagine any of the women I see, especially my ATF, wanting to be in a civil relationship with me. One hand giveth and the other takes away. I'm content knowing I'm restricted to being a mongerer.
I will, actually I think few of ladies here are world class women, not only companions
it would most likely be a SB situation but it would be fun to watch the X's reactions for sure.
Had a long time relationship with a provider for over three years. I thought we were getting close and did think about leaving the wife for her but glad I didn't. Turns out she is BSC and has a lot of issues. The bad times started getting more than the good times so eventually we parted ways. Glad I didn't make the major move to her. Recently we tried to get back together just on a professional level (the sex was really good) but she ended up freaking out about crazy stuff that's all in her head so I guess I dodged another bullet. Will stick to strickly to fun stuff and leave the "relationship" scene alone.
I think that quite says it all
Love asian philosophy - as you know Eastern Europeans are Eastern by a reasons ..
We do share a lot with asian cultures..( my dear god few my best dates are Asians and here is NOTHING can beak the bond we have- we have just natural bond - asians and russians.. )
so may be you will relate saying too.. but many here said NO to wife who took money for sex?
As your wives not doing the same giving you less ..
Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without.
Confuciu
would any escort ever have a serious relationship with me? Even if we're highly compatible, isn't there an issue with character? I mean we're both law breakers. You want to start a relationship under those circumstances? It's also possible that one, or both of us, is cheating another relationship. While not strictly against the law, isn't that a character flaw? It's not looking good for us.
Besides, if I were in a serious relationship with you, I'd still want to hobby secretly. It wouldn't be enough to have your permission either, because it's the secrecy that creates the excitement. With your experience as an escort, one way or another, permission or no permission, all the secrets would be gone. You see, there's another character flaw because I'm hard wired into secret sex. In essence, I'm married to TER. You and I are already having a serious relationship. When do you want to go meet Mom and Dad?
Breaking the law is a flaw of character? I beg to differ. In certain cases it is a good thing, in others a necessity.
Though I guess that didn't work out too well for them in the end.
But, there has to be some examples of couples outside the law who came out OK.
(Samson and Delilah?)
Help me out here folks.
Both me and my wife are hardened criminals. Actually pretty much everyone is. The advantage person commits three felonies a day and there isn't an adult alive not guilty of a crime, as that is how insane the laws are. So given everyone is a felon any successful relationship will work in this nation. So I submit my love affair with my wife. 11 years and counting.
I like my "hourly" girlfriends lol.........
That's the reason why I do this. Relationships are a pain in the ass.
That's the reason why I do this. Relationships are a pain in the ass.
I agree with you totally. But sometimes you can't help not to get to know some of these ladies. I've had hourly providers and nothing more than that. But a select few are just too adorable not to get close to.
I know what you mean, some of these ladies are very adorable and know how to work it. That's for damn sure, but I still keep it real to the "business" relationship.
At first it was just a business deal. I would see her, have fun, pay her, and leave. I was seeing her on a steady basis. About once a week for about three months. Then she asked me to drive her home. Then from there after we got to know each other. I just didn't expect to know her as well as I do now
The thought of her fucking other guys and getting paid for it would turn me on no end. It wouldn't take "strength" for me, I'd seriously get off on it for as long as she wanted to do it. Wish I'd realized this about myself when I was 25.
I met his cousin his non and his aunt.
then he introduce me to a bunch his friends, and they too took me around thier families.
One of his friends I met through him took me snow tubing at gunstaock with his nieces and nephews and brother in law and sister for a week in nh. Then for christmas i went to his dads and sang karoake.
then another of his friends we would also talk to his mother when we visited him.
I think if you meet like minded people it isnt gonna be a big deal they are gonna want yu in thier circle, and doing thigs with them.
its not common for me it was just that one friend and then his entire crew i mingled with and got very close with all them. Initially though oddly enough he had met me by calling my ad on back page,
then him and his closest friends all becam my closest friends too. just coicidence and we all clicked .
I dont think its thats odd, at all. 90 percent my clients though are from a diferent crowd than i and i know for fact us fraternixing outside the appt wouldnt be comfortable.
it has happened but it was uncommon, most the clients i know for fact i would never go meet thier moms or hang with em, not that that matters, we just meet for the appt which is fine .
Escorts are people. I see no reason to distinguish them from anyone else as a potential person with whom one could have a serious relationship. And in terms of the ethical judgment of who is doing what, it seems to me that I'd be more deserving of judgment than an unattached escort.
Agreed.
The name of our romantic song : "She's my Hooker I'm her John"
Once I'm her John I'm not singing a different melody with her.
If you were lead vocalist in a band, while playing live, would you change the words of a popular song fans loved to sing along?
IMO No need to fix something that isn't broken and working fine.
When I enjoy my Hooker I'll book again.
That's the name of my tune.
Friendship outside the business OK, Serious monogamous relationship, No Way!!
No sense writing words in a song that don't fit the message.
If I'm looking for serious adventure that will likely go nowhere but bed, I'd rather spend my wasted time soliciting lonely wives.
I quit taking GF's to family functions.
My brother's wife, after a few visits, usually during dinner, after she's had more wine than she should drink, will inevitably remark, "You two are such a sweet couple, are you talking about marriage?"
When I quickly reply HELL NO, my GF at the time soon becomes my ex GF, though I try to explain for the next two weeks, my outburst had nothing to do with her.
From my experience, finding another GF worth keeping for a serious relationship, is much more difficult than finding a good Hooker.
When I'm in a serious relationship I have no interest in Hookers.
When I meet a Gal outside of her job,I didn't know was a Hooker, at a club, beach etc, I can't tell the difference between her and other Gals, other than she "usually" has a lot more shoes.
I don't have an aversion to serious relationships when I meet Hookers outside of their business, but I'm not introducing her to my brother's wife unless I'm ready to say Yes.
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery, if I liked the band I'd give odds, the chance of me saying Yes to my brother's wife, are as good as when "Hell freezes Over"
Much love,
Adri