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As do I, but I mentioned "worse".
RedHetaera See my TER Reviews 269 reads
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What she's describing is reading as classic potential stalker.  A lot of psychos out there see providers as easy prey; it's a very old theme.  (Exemplo gratis: Jack the Ripper.)  And a LOT of them try to hide under the umbrella of "BDSM/fetish", yet are mysteriously completely unknown in those communities and can't name any of the resources/boards associated with them.

Cautiously,

*Maureen*

angelexotic1365 reads

I have been chatting with a guy about a domme video. He tells me his a black, no sex just a g string and me yelling at him scratching him.  
  He asks me to arrange a girlfriend to shoot to film. I do just that. he will pay her a tip for her time.  
But what raised a red flag was him keeping on the phone to interegate me about my personal life. He asked if i am doing any drugs or drinking even though pregnant which the answer is obviously NO.  
       I felt a little offended I would never smoke a cigarette or drink while pregnant nor did I before . I drank like 2 or 3 times last summer before gettin pregnant .. I figured you would see all my photos and grasp i am into body building and modeling and live a healthy life.  
                So he asks am i ok with the fact he is black. No i see black men I am not racist,  
But i am getting a bad vibe,... I dont like the interegation he gave me as opposed to polite coversation. Asking about kids father stuff wether or not i been drinkin, ????  I mean that makes me feel he is a social services worker like investigating me for cripes sake not a client.  
                    Guys we dont want to be asked personal question over the phone before we meet you.I dont get it.
so here is our emails. I decided it aint worth the risk he has no screening and continues to argue with me over the matter.  

 
here is our emails:
                                           I say " If you get provider references , preferred411 or datecheck. So I can screen. If not nevermind not worth takin the risk. Sorry."

 
              now his blatent disrespect for my rules response, IGNORANT describes it.

 
he responds. "Hello Angel. The price you submitted for the 90min session including the tip for your friend is fine! I'm not sure what the problem is or why I'm scaring you away. We seemed to connect well with each other well when we spoke on the phone a couple of weeks ago.  I don't visit providers so I don't have references. I'm mainly into fetish & bdsm. I can understand if you don't feel comfortable & I don't want to do it if you don't feel comfortable however I'm willing to take you out to lunch in a  public place first and just talk so you can get to know me a little and feel comfortable. Afterwards you can cancel if you feel weird about it. However whatever you decide, I understand. Let me know if you change your mind. I would leave an extra tip for you after session for your time. God Bless."

 

 

 

 

 

    I send him back and email and say go pay to join preferrred 411 or datecheck and get back to me other wise forget it. AND I do not owe you any further explanations as to why.

 

 

                           I cant believe the amount of men that will just blatantly argue with me over screening, Demand a reason why ect.

 
they proberly have black lists because with attitudes like that you can see they proberly pissed off providers in past. ...................why do guys make such a big deal about signing up for preferred411?

is it too time consuming or expensive? it seems it be more a loss for the guys to see back oage ladies that are not screening or reviewed and not have these tools for screening if you ask me.  

 

If i were a guy i d prefer investing the proper time in for screening, and see better quality ladies that care whom they are about to be alone in a room with!

some one can pull a gun, abduct you at gub point, kill you, stab you, raPE YOU.

                                        I dont get it when guys argue with me about screening,...

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scoed297 reads

Any guy who doesn't meet your screening requirements should be skipped tell they do. Any guy grilling you over your personal life before you meet should likely be skipped as if he is prying before hand I can't imagine it getting better after you meet. Any guy that you feel uncomfortable with should be skipped. So I am glad you skipped him. He might of been fine but he might not have been. He could just as easily been dangerous. With him not willing to do the screening you require and prying into your life ups the odds of him not being safe.

I am glad when I am screened, and I love to hear that ladies are screening. I know too many ladies that have suffered some pretty bad stuff to not screening. This like CPS taking away a lady's child as she is going to jail for prostitution charges, things like theft of service, and things like being beaten and raped. You keep screening and I thank you for doing so.

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FoxyNC313 reads

I have seen some posts on icky, about a guy who teamed up with another guy (one black and one mexican/white I think)
that were somehow bypassing screening (using extra accounts etc, a lot of mess with that scenario) but ended up getting both into a room, and took the provider, chocked her, beat her, put drugs up her ass (daterape drugs) and she woke up later, beaten, in a pool of blood & a concussion & broken ribs.

I will try to send find the link tot hat post & send it to you, please feel free to forward that shit to HIM.
Just so HE can know how serious screening is.

No screening, then FUCK off is my policy.
Word up.

Foxy

P.S. Especially being preggers, gotta look out for that sweet little bun in the oven! :)  

Posted By: angelexotic
I have been chatting with a guy about a domme video. He tells me his a black, no sex just a g string and me yelling at him scratching him.  
   He asks me to arrange a girlfriend to shoot to film. I do just that. he will pay her a tip for her time.  
 But what raised a red flag was him keeping on the phone to interegate me about my personal life. He asked if i am doing any drugs or drinking even though pregnant which the answer is obviously NO.  
        I felt a little offended I would never smoke a cigarette or drink while pregnant nor did I before . I drank like 2 or 3 times last summer before gettin pregnant .. I figured you would see all my photos and grasp i am into body building and modeling and live a healthy life.  
                 So he asks am i ok with the fact he is black. No i see black men I am not racist,  
 But i am getting a bad vibe,... I dont like the interegation he gave me as opposed to polite coversation. Asking about kids father stuff wether or not i been drinkin, ????  I mean that makes me feel he is a social services worker like investigating me for cripes sake not a client.  
                     Guys we dont want to be asked personal question over the phone before we meet you.I dont get it.  
 so here is our emails. I decided it aint worth the risk he has no screening and continues to argue with me over the matter.  
   
   
 here is our emails:  
                                            I say " If you get provider references , preferred411 or datecheck. So I can screen. If not nevermind not worth takin the risk. Sorry."  
   
   
               now his blatent disrespect for my rules response, IGNORANT describes it.  
   
   
 he responds. "Hello Angel. The price you submitted for the 90min session including the tip for your friend is fine! I'm not sure what the problem is or why I'm scaring you away. We seemed to connect well with each other well when we spoke on the phone a couple of weeks ago.  I don't visit providers so I don't have references. I'm mainly into fetish & bdsm. I can understand if you don't feel comfortable & I don't want to do it if you don't feel comfortable however I'm willing to take you out to lunch in a  public place first and just talk so you can get to know me a little and feel comfortable. Afterwards you can cancel if you feel weird about it. However whatever you decide, I understand. Let me know if you change your mind. I would leave an extra tip for you after session for your time. God Bless."  
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
     I send him back and email and say go pay to join preferrred 411 or datecheck and get back to me other wise forget it. AND I do not owe you any further explanations as to why.  
   
   
   
   
   
                            I cant believe the amount of men that will just blatantly argue with me over screening, Demand a reason why ect.  
   
   
 they proberly have black lists because with attitudes like that you can see they proberly pissed off providers in past. ...................why do guys make such a big deal about signing up for preferred411?  
   
 is it too time consuming or expensive? it seems it be more a loss for the guys to see back oage ladies that are not screening or reviewed and not have these tools for screening if you ask me.  
   
   
   
 If i were a guy i d prefer investing the proper time in for screening, and see better quality ladies that care whom they are about to be alone in a room with!  
   
 some one can pull a gun, abduct you at gub point, kill you, stab you, raPE YOU.  
   
                                         I dont get it when guys argue with me about screening,...

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FoxyNC246 reads

I sent it to your inbox!

I would also be willing to share with any lady or (gent) who will find that post most illuminating as to  
WHY WE SCREEN!!!!

"icckey" .net/showthread.php?t=1256809

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RedHetaera355 reads

is that they want to keep their web presence/footprint as invisible as possible to stay UTR.  

The thing is that if we can't find ANYTHING to verify your identity, you won't give us information past references, and the references you give never get back to us (or you can't give any because you claim to have found them on Craigslist and they don't have any other contact info) then we have no guarantee you're not LE with a particularly good lie.  The more personal questions you ask us, the more it looks like you're trying to figure out our civvie identities to arrest or stalk us.

The harder we screen, the safer YOU are.  If we're doing our best to make sure you're not LE (or worse, and there is much worse out there than simply being arrested and charged), then we're likely not LE ourselves.  And if we're screening that hard, there's a good chance it's because we don't want to be outed either.  The argument that we then have your information for nefarious purposes is invalid; if we used it for such, we would also be outing ourselves.  "So-and-so solicits escorts!"  "How do you know that?" "I have his information here!" "How did you get it?" "He solicited me!"  "Why was he soliciting YOU?"  "Ummm..."

Why not make it easier all around and just get a P411 or Datecheck account so you don't have to contact several providers, all of whom then have at least your phone number/email, before you find one who will see you without making sure that you're not a threat to anything but her chastity and lingerie?

Securely,

*Maureen*

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inicky46267 reads

Otherwise he'd be proposing sex.  Making a movie in which he's yelled at and scratched isn't sex and wouldn't be illegal. The risk is mainly that he's a creep who'll attack her in some way, which is why she's right to require screening.

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RedHetaera270 reads

What she's describing is reading as classic potential stalker.  A lot of psychos out there see providers as easy prey; it's a very old theme.  (Exemplo gratis: Jack the Ripper.)  And a LOT of them try to hide under the umbrella of "BDSM/fetish", yet are mysteriously completely unknown in those communities and can't name any of the resources/boards associated with them.

Cautiously,

*Maureen*

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SexyJaye7281 reads

OMG too funny.  Plus an OTC "getting to know you" lunch and oh I have money for you and your friend.  A million dollars! Wait the best part... I don't ever do something like this...

What guys don't get is there is a script of red flag words and phrases that end emails and conversations with me immediately. And what this guy said to you in email Angel is 100% trash bin worthy. Sorry you entertained him via phone convo. You are about to be a single mommy and will soon find out you won't have anytime to even come near the shit this guy is spewing. He is a predator. Plain and simple.

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Jstgttnstrtd269 reads

...AFTER having engaged him in what I assume was more than one conversation ("I have been chatting")?
Does this mean you don't ALWAYS screen?
Wouldn't screening usually come-up early in the first conversation?
Seems to me he was like a salesman who thought he had a sale, then saw it slipping away, so made one last pitch.
You in no way need to explain WHY you have your policies to every random guy that contacts you.  It's like talking to a telemarketer on the phone, "sorry, I am NOT interested."  Click.  No need to explain why you don't want to accept their "great" offer for new windows, etc. - none of their business.  A no is a no.  Same thing here.  Just be polite but FIRM and completely unambiguous right from the start about your screening policy.  Try not to let it get to the point where a guy can convince himself that he has "connected" with you and might be able to change your mind after you've stated your policy

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harborview248 reads

You gave him flexible screening options which he declined.  

"CLICK!"    

Yes, very creapy questions.  Just cause for extra screening.

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Calvin88268 reads

You either attract crazy or you are crazy. I will go with the latter.

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