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Between your paranoia and utter disgust for men...it's a toss-up.

You really should get someone to help you with your marketing...seeing guys like you see.  Unless you aren't able to find guys willing to pay over $ 200?

Sheesh!

How's that "other business" coming along.  This hooking thing certainly isn't sitting well with you.
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
The underhanded manipulative crap shows the true character or lack thereof if a trick has an agenda when he asks her for OTC time.  As in if she declines I won't see her again, if she accepts, then hmmm how much more can I wring out of her?  
   
 Some johns are just not worth the trouble and they are not missed.

I have a few trigger phrases that will immediately put me on edge, and on alert if a client says them during our time together. I imagine that the comments are mostly harmless, and I try my best not to show my angst although I have failed at that more than once or twice.

Mentioning that condoms don't feel as nice as condom-less sex is the biggest trigger for me. Suddenly, I feel as though this person may be willing to sneakily remove the condom and all of my focus shifts to ensuring that it is still in place. The fun of the session is gone, and I'm turned into the condom police, that really sucks.

Comments about their "clean bill of health" std status, also put me on edge. I suppose I'm happy that they're std free, or at least believe themselves to be, but mentioning that to me makes me feel that they believe they pose no threat to me, so condom-less sex should be allowed. Once again, I'm turned into the condom police :(

I'm sure there are others that really get under my skin, but I'm very curious to hear your peeve phrases.
Guys, ladies, please share.... and give your why.

From a guy's perspective, mentioning anything about time is a mood killer.  Yes, I know our time together is not endless, but don't bring it up.  Set an alarm on your phone.  

Also, don't mention another engagement.  I'm well aware that you have other plans/arrangements

I can certainly see how mentioning time would be a mood killer for you guys. I use an hour long soothing sounds cd to keep the time, and since I've heard it 100's of time, I can generally tell when it's time to start ending things without mentioning time to him.
When our time is up, however, and I'm putting on my robe... or sitting up and he's not taking the hint, I will mention it.

That's a different situation and completely understandable from your perspective.  I just need a moment or two to get ready to depart.

Us guys need a moment to gather our thoughts and belongings before we leave.

Personally, I would find it a buzz-kill if you mentioned that the CD you use to time your session is one you've heard "100's of times." lol

Posted By: TaylorMassage
I can certainly see how mentioning time would be a mood killer for you guys. I use an hour long soothing sounds cd to keep the time, and since I've heard it 100's of time, I can generally tell when it's time to start ending things without mentioning time to him.  
 When our time is up, however, and I'm putting on my robe... or sitting up and he's not taking the hint, I will mention it.

Honestly, I probably have heard it 100's of times. I've been using the same cd for over 5 years. And although there are no lyrics, I can hum along to the entire hour of music. To be fair, I've only recently become a fs provider, prior to that I was massage only. Does that it make it better lol?

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Posted By: TaylorMassage
Honestly, I probably have heard it 100's of times. I've been using the same cd for over 5 years. And although there are no lyrics, I can hum along to the entire hour of music. To be fair, I've only recently become a fs provider, prior to that I was massage only. Does that it make it better lol?

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i've seen one lady a number of times, and her standard line when our rime is up is a very friendly, "so, what are your plans for the rest od the day (night)?"

it's casual, it sounds like real conversation, but it lets me know w/o being rudely on the nose, that 's time for me to get my stuff together and go.  very classy, very gracious.

and that's just the least of the many reasons she's my fav.

"Could you please hurry?  My boyfriend could be back any second."

Needless to say, I didn't see her again and too bad because otherwise it was a pretty decent session.

Once I picked up a gal I've seen before, we went back to her place and got it on while her boyfriend was passed out in the other room. Come to think of it, the encounter took place either on the staircase or the front entry way to her home. She must have snuck out to make a quick buck, I wouldn't call it a session and it certainly wasn't that great. I must have been inebriated at the time.

I don't think there can be any worse comment said than that one.  Ouch!

There once was a very popular provider who got a boyfriend who would call her phone and she would say that's ----telling me times up. Then if she didn't call him back in 5 minutes or so he would call again and tell the client to leave.

I agree, mentioning time is a mood killer and at times knowing you have limited time to perform well is rough enough on some of us.

AnotherDonJohn861 reads

Droning on about it...

On another note, how about any std talk? Ugh.

AnotherDonJohn1027 reads

Yo Nicky!  

Good to see you and GaG alive and kickin'.

Where's the CPA? Where's L R?  

Not sure how long I can stay long but I'll be poppin in.

GaGambler821 reads

Sorry to tell you that LR has left the building, but she is missed.

AnotherDonJohn1069 reads

I'll hit htg on her cell and see how regulars do it.

Are you stateside ? Wild oil ride!

GaGambler936 reads

This "wild oil ride" you are talking about has actually got me working for a living for a while. Say it isn't so, right? lol

Any mention of how he wants me to come. Even if there was a chance, he just blew it right there. An immediate turn off.

Do you mean like hard, fast, or to the left?

like, "I really want you to come" or "I am going to make you come  more than once". And tricks wonder why some hookers fake it. And ironically, the dudes who do say that are the most unattractive or sexually inept and there is no hope in hell it would happen with me.

Guess you'll just have to fake it  LOL

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Any mention of how he wants me to come. Even if there was a chance, he just blew it right there. An immediate turn off.

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Any mention of how he wants me to come. Even if there was a chance, he just blew it right there. An immediate turn off.

GaGambler992 reads

It has the exact opposite effect on me, and the more, and the louder she says it, the less likely I am to ever cum. Like H+T said, "an immediate turnoff"

"Dame tu leche" will have the opposite effect on me.

So does that mean, "give me your man milk" or what. Lol! ;)

Posted By: inicky46
"Dame tu leche" will have the opposite effect on me.

Posted By: Katie_krush
So does that mean, "give me your man milk" or what. Lol! ;)  
   
Posted By: inicky46
"Dame tu leche" will have the opposite effect on me.

Posted By: inicky46
 
   
Posted By: Katie_krush
So does that mean, "give me your man milk" or what. Lol! ;)  
     
Posted By: inicky46
"Dame tu leche" will have the opposite effect on me.

My last GF didn't complain about gagging when doing Deep throat.
 My last GF's pussy tasted like sweet peaches.  
 My last GF loved giving me BJ's.  
 My last GF loved sex 24/7.
 My last GF loved anal.
 My last GF loved to shop here.
 My last GF looked great in that dress.
 My last GF swallowed.  
 MY last GF was a VS model.
 My last GF was very intelligent.
 My last GF turned heads everywhere we went.
 My last GG was very athletic.
 My last GF could swim like a Mermaid    
 My last GF loved sex in the morning.
 My last GF loved  waking me up with a BJ.
 My last GF brought other Gals home to share with me.  
 My last GF wasn't a dumb stripper like you.  
 My last GF loved when I woke  her  up with my Dick in her face.  
 My last GF never asked me for money.
 My last GF had a great job.
 My last GF would bait her own hook.
 My last GF was/wasn't a hooker.

The last time I talked about my last GF with a new GF she asked................................................
 " Why didn't you keep your last GF, Dumb Ass ? "
 

Posted By: TaylorMassage
I have a few trigger phrases that will immediately put me on edge, and on alert if a client says them during our time together. I imagine that the comments are mostly harmless, and I try my best not to show my angst although I have failed at that more than once or twice.  
   
 Mentioning that condoms don't feel as nice as condom-less sex is the biggest trigger for me. Suddenly, I feel as though this person may be willing to sneakily remove the condom and all of my focus shifts to ensuring that it is still in place. The fun of the session is gone, and I'm turned into the condom police, that really sucks.  
   
 Comments about their "clean bill of health" std status, also put me on edge. I suppose I'm happy that they're std free, or at least believe themselves to be, but mentioning that to me makes me feel that they believe they pose no threat to me, so condom-less sex should be allowed. Once again, I'm turned into the condom police :(  
   
 I'm sure there are others that really get under my skin, but I'm very curious to hear your peeve phrases.  
 Guys, ladies, please share.... and give your why.

JoelGoodsen1282 reads

...or your boyfriends, FBs etc (or seeing pictures of them on your ipad, as one provider did)...  

I don't have any illusions that you came straight from the convent and are returning right after our visit, but I'm really not interested hearing about anyone else and if I do I won't likely be back.

When a new client tries to ingratiate himself with me by saying,  

"Oh, you're much sexier than Holly Hooker (someone in my home market)... I really think she lies about her age/weight/measurements. Plus she's supporting a boyfriend with a drug habit, and last time I saw her, she said...."

Ugly, negative gossip about another lady is such a turnoff... I can can only imagine what you're going to be saying about me to the next lady

I like to tell gals how beautiful they look while we are making love.  It's not just a line, a gal's face really does exude a wonderful aura during sex.

I love to hear gals say that they love how my cock feels in them.  It may be hooey, but I don't care, it makes me swoon.

So, what are some of the things you like to hear?

I just like to hear her moan in ecstasy.  That is the ultimate aphrodisiac and really says it all.

JoelGoodsen1074 reads

You can keep all my photos, and feel free to take some more lol.

Seriously though it's really an easy one - my name.  I had no idea how much of a turn on that would be.

Being told that my brown eyes look beautiful in the light, or that the lingerie I'm wearing looks lovely against my skin.
Those types of compliments make me feel very special.  


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a well placed and convincing "I'm cumming" from a lady does it for me. I'm well aware it's likely a fake O, but this is after all a fantasy, so if she acts it out for me I appreciate the effort. If she's good at this lie, she'll build it up with moans and other utterances, perhaps a "I'm going to cum".

A good provider is a great actress.

Posted By: russbbj
a well placed and convincing "I'm cumming" from a lady does it for me. I'm well aware it's likely a fake O, but this is after all a fantasy, so if she acts it out for me I appreciate the effort. If she's good at this lie, she'll build it up with moans and other utterances, perhaps a "I'm going to cum".  
   
 A good provider is a great actress.

Biggest turn on for me is her reactions, both physical and verbal.  I enjoy watching her facial expressions and her eyes.  

Of course what guy isn't turned on by some of the sounds that are being made or what she says.  I enjoy hearing feedback if I'm doing something that she's enjoying.



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Of course, a huge turn on is a respectful, sweet gentleman who is polite and doesn't try to do certain things without first asking.

I also really enjoy making a man hard. Especially feeling him get hard in my mouth. It makes me wet.

I had a provider tell me that I was really lucky because even her boy friend doesn't "get it" so good because she "never" gets on top. My reply was, "does your boyfriend give you an envelope full of cash before you bump uglies?" She stopped talking for a whole 5 minutes (I guess she was pondering the question because she asked me what "bump uglies" meant ... ahh 20 year old's.), my mood was killed for the night. The GFE fantasy was over for me. Last I heard, she's not providing anymore. Wonder why?

Such as:
 "do you have a boyfriend or husband?" You know what, the only thing you need to know is that I'm your girlfriend for this hour/hours.
I also don't like when asked if I have siblings cuz my sibling died and it's awkward to say that in session, it ruins the mood and I like to keep it lighthearted and fun...
"How did you get into this?" Um I don't think you want to know so I will just lie...
"Where do you live?" Why do you care?

I also resent being advised on my business. This is a fantasy, don't spoil it! Plus, I think I know what I am doing. I don't need any help thank you and this is actually insulting to me, lol.

It drains my energy to lie, and it also taints the connection a little.  I think some people don't know that it is possible to still have a great conversation and make a great and lasting connection without asking personal questions. Especially in the first session!

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I practically always turn it down, and it never feels like I did it nicely enough. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, and it just puts me in an awkward position.

The only recent otc time I've done was with someone I'd only seen once before, but we chatted by email here and there. I asked him if he'd join me as my "date" to a meet and greet that we'd been talking about, I had a great time. I think if there is going to be otc time, the onus is on the lady to ask for it.

I will not do any OTC time if the john asks. I know where that goes and it is not to my benefit as they invariably want more. One guy I see now just does not take the hint and every session I turn him down. I always have something to do after the time is up...real or fake.

GaGambler1450 reads

Except on a purely spur of the moment situation, like "want to grab a bite?" if the lady has just mentioned that she is hungry towards the end of the session. I almost always leave it up to the lady to actually initiate OTC time. I will oftentimes make the suggestion that "I would love to do something more than a paid date" but I always make sure to "tell her to call me, if she is interested" that way I know she really wants to do something together and isn't just being polite to a paying customer.

Many times when I do this I never here a word from her aside from seeing her on paid dates, on other times in a day or a week I get a call or a text that starts off with "hi, watch you doing???" lol If I don't hear from her, I never repeat the invitation, her silence on the subject is all the answer that I need.

The underhanded manipulative crap shows the true character or lack thereof if a trick has an agenda when he asks her for OTC time.  As in if she declines I won't see her again, if she accepts, then hmmm how much more can I wring out of her?  

Some johns are just not worth the trouble and they are not missed.

Between your paranoia and utter disgust for men...it's a toss-up.

You really should get someone to help you with your marketing...seeing guys like you see.  Unless you aren't able to find guys willing to pay over $ 200?

Sheesh!

How's that "other business" coming along.  This hooking thing certainly isn't sitting well with you.

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
The underhanded manipulative crap shows the true character or lack thereof if a trick has an agenda when he asks her for OTC time.  As in if she declines I won't see her again, if she accepts, then hmmm how much more can I wring out of her?  
   
 Some johns are just not worth the trouble and they are not missed.

at lest she has the good sense to post under an alias, unlike BSCTaylor who actually uses her real stage name..  Now THAT's, marketing! LOL!
We know she said she'd never see anyone from TER but we also know that's a lie.

at least get your facts right. I know that's asking alot but give it a shot. Taylor much?

Posted By: inicky46
We know she said she'd never see anyone "with the likes of me" from TER. Now THAT'S excellent marketing
Then again, you are truly 'one of a kind'.

Find a new lady to stalk Nick. It's old already.........again.
Or go get laid with anyone who actually chooses to see you from TER and write a review. That is the whole point here...isn't it? Obviously I don't have any problem with gentlemen booking me...past, present and future, no matter what you spew on this board. But nice try. Keep going, it's entertaining, and I'm flattered.  

Everyone knows what you're about...but you.

Taylor xx

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You post under every comment of his and HE'S the stalker? How do you figure?  

Oh and I recall not too long ago a diatribe from you on guys who "sow" here. Now you'll see anyone regardless of what they "sow?" Why the change?

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Maybe you should ask your good buddy that very question as to why he 'still' continually mentions me in threads that I'm not even a part of....day after day. But I will call out and respond here or there when he does continually post derogatory comments in this gesture. All anyone has to do is a search and you can count 9x out of 10 in some way shape or form, his referencing of me 'first'. But yes you are correct, it's beyond me at this point. And yes, of course it's a lil game to him. If he has nothing better to do with his time, I could certainly give him a job to do 'better' for the world if that's the case. Let me know. It'd be my pleasure to be his boss for a bit and ship his ass into shape. He'd be singing a different tune come the end of his internship.  

Anyhow, I'm totally confused myself why you jump on this bandwagon constantly too and are so curious to begin with regards to our differences here. FWIW, there is no need to post continually in response to me either btw. Touche, maybe then?  

Enjoy the beautiful ladies of this world Mr. Grant, at least they seem to like you. You seem to be quite the stud. Good luck and much love.  

T xx

That's rich.  She who has melted down and reappeared with new handles, created false handles to praise herself, spewed misinformation and wrong speculation here, and recently embarrassed herself so badly on the Newbie Board the "host" (who is legendary for his patience) had to bring her up short.
I suggest you do what the rest of us do when scanning her posts: sit back and chuckle.
Oh, and Earth to Min Min: what I was actually doing was trying to draw you out.  Looks like I succeeded! Thanks for playing!

Last I checked nearly everyone needs to feed to sustain life.

Perhaps you are different...I don't know.

But if some dude asks if you "want to grab a bite"...why any of the gals take it to mean anything more than that is, well...far too narcissistic from my POV.  It's just a damned lunch/dinner.  Why some of "you" take it to mean anything more is...well...did I mention narcissistic?

Consider that many of the johns here lead rather hectic lives...so when some john asks you to spend some of your precious time with him...you might want to just realize he's also hungry  LOL

But I can see that a few gals think that every tool here is seeking something more.  Honestly...while I'm sure there are some...most aren't.  Some of "us" are far too preoccupied with our own lives to even think of getting into more details of your personal lives.

And if some gal wants to babble all about her "life"...I'm happy to listen.  OTC however...or she can pay my hourly rates...which often dwarf hers  ;)

Posted By: TaylorMassage
I practically always turn it down, and it never feels like I did it nicely enough. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, and it just puts me in an awkward position.  
   
 The only recent otc time I've done was with someone I'd only seen once before, but we chatted by email here and there. I asked him if he'd join me as my "date" to a meet and greet that we'd been talking about, I had a great time. I think if there is going to be otc time, the onus is on the lady to ask for it.

Well, everyone has their own perspective. And "yours" (general) is certainly as valid "ours"(also, general)

I'm sure they ask for many different reasons, and we decline for different reasons. Some of our reasons are very possibly completely wrong. As you mentioned, some do expect more from otc time and we have no real way of filtering who does and who does not, so it can be easier to just say no to everyone. Just one guy that expects more otc time beyond what we initially said yes to, or that now expects free dates, or that turns our otc time into a relationship.... is too much.
And sometimes we just don't want to do otc time, because we don't want to lol.  

If you believe that a woman is narcissistic for whatever reason, I doubt you'd much enjoy otc time with her, so her declining is probably in the best interest of the both of you.

They should just quit asking. I mean if the trick says, "Well it was great seeing you, I am off to grab a bite...it then leaves the door open for the hooker to say, "hey would you mind if I tagged along. OTC of course", or she can simply say , "it was great meeting you, have a nice dinner, hope to see you some other time.

As much as a trick does not want to pay to watch a hooker eat, a hooker might have better things to do than eat with someone she'd much rather be paid to be in the company of

I think that you just have an aversion to anything fun.  That's fine...I guess if it works for you.

None of this is complicated.  YOU want to make it more than it is.  Honestly...very few johns have any interest in you (as in some "relationship".  You know this already.  So if some dude extends an invite, you have an option.

To make anything more out of it is asinine.

And it's so laughable to think that anyone would pay to watch you eat.  But there are morons out there who do...I see from their posts that they have such little self-esteem that they have to  LOL

I'm not sure about why a hooker would have better things to do.  Eating is a basic human necessity.  How does buying shoes outweigh this?  ;)

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
They should just quit asking. I mean if the trick says, "Well it was great seeing you, I am off to grab a bite...it then leaves the door open for the hooker to say, "hey would you mind if I tagged along. OTC of course", or she can simply say , "it was great meeting you, have a nice dinner, hope to see you some other time.  
   
 As much as a trick does not want to pay to watch a hooker eat, a hooker might have better things to do than eat with someone she'd much rather be paid to be in the company of.  
 

AnotherDonJohn868 reads

It's the lady who decides whether she's interested/ needs to eat ...I think of it as "networking" in business plus a free meal.
It also should happen pretty naturally.
If she asks, I'm going somewhere to eat or get a drink.  
Often, she's intrigued by the restaurant choice.
It's usually a repeat visit and not a first time (which has maybe happened twice in 15 years)..

just not with a trick. Networking? Just who is he going to slip my info to to add to my clientele? This is not like the usual networking business lunch. He either wants to keep seeing me because I did a good job not because of how much free time he can squeeze out of me.

Because in my experience that just leads to more manipulation of more of my time or he goes elsewhere. Let me make it simple, just go elsewhere. I have plenty of decent men who pay for my time without that shit.

Too many times has a nice gesture been used the wrong way.

I guess not well enough if all your paying dudes are seeking more than the hourly fees.

It's also quite a shame that you have such disdain for those customers who pay you.  I've met a few of your ilk (as in hating their customers) in pre-bankruptcy hearings.  This is usually followed up by my putting together the court docs for their Ch. 7/11 filings.

So which is it...you have "decent men" paying for you with no additional expectations...OR assholes who seek OTC and still pay you?

Screen....screen....screen  LOL

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
just not with a trick. Networking? Just who is he going to slip my info to to add to my clientele? This is not like the usual networking business lunch. He either wants to keep seeing me because I did a good job not because of how much free time he can squeeze out of me.  
   
 Because in my experience that just leads to more manipulation of more of my time or he goes elsewhere. Let me make it simple, just go elsewhere. I have plenty of decent men who pay for my time without that shit.  
   
 Too many times has a nice gesture been used the wrong way.

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
just not with a trick. Networking? Just who is he going to slip my info to to add to my clientele? This is not like the usual networking business lunch. He either wants to keep seeing me because I did a good job not because of how much free time he can squeeze out of me.  
   
 Because in my experience that just leads to more manipulation of more of my time or he goes elsewhere. Let me make it simple, just go elsewhere. I have plenty of decent men who pay for my time without that shit.  
   
 Too many times has a nice gesture been used the wrong way.

AnotherDonJohn1418 reads

But some of your sisters disagree.  

Btw, hopping on the bandwagon with HT-MHB is usu counterproductive, but hopefully you're cuter...

I know why I am here, I get paid to fuck men other women refuse. So since you are in that category it stands to reason you would be touchy that a hooker doesn't want to spend OTC time and wants to be paid. As long as the hooker you hire does a good job of pretending she cares and is into you is all you need to worry about

I presume it goes far back in your childhood....perhaps you suffered some mental/physical abuses that have carried you into this horrendous world.

Why would you think that any/all johns are "refused" by other women?  I guess in your misguided misunderstood world that may be the case...but for many that is simply NOT the case.  But I do understand that YOU need to believe it is true.

And again you babble that any of "us" worry about such nonsense.  I guess you really only know men that have no self-esteem...it's a shame.  Or perhaps, it's you that do the projecting.

In any event...how's that "other" business going?  Must be generating tons of cash which accounts for your disdain for this world.  Right?

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
I know why I am here, I get paid to fuck men other women refuse. So since you are in that category it stands to reason you would be touchy that a hooker doesn't want to spend OTC time and wants to be paid. As long as the hooker you hire does a good job of pretending she cares and is into you is all you need to worry about.  
   
 

AnotherDonJohn1428 reads

If not for OTC, I wouldn't be hitched right now;)
OTC between sexy people who are guaranteed to fuck is the one reason I'm in this world.  

Btw, I guess you're not that successful in your biz because salespeople have to do "face time" (not the apple app) with their current clients..It 's why I never pick up the check for meals except when I'm with my family.

The legit issue you're alluding to is about "game." Can you get the OTC?
Key factor is: is this a good long term client relationship?
Other factors are less important: restaurant choice, etc.
Nevertheless, I'd hope to know better than to see a few BSC ladies out there, whether OTC or not... Ask Taylor how it went for her. Lol.

I don't need to waste my time I want to spend with true friends or doing things I love on johns. They either want to see me or not. I do a good job when they are paying me, they repeat and it is not because I have spent my valuable time listening to their blathering on my time. I will listen to all their crap and smile nicely and nod and agree etc when being paid.  

I do face time, and get paid for it. Sorry you have to do the face time for free to keep your clients, might want to do  better "on the job"  to keep them satisfied.

AnotherDonJohn793 reads

Number one, no one from here would see you unless it's free. Yes, we know...

Second, you can keep your business model and we can see ladies with different business models. End of story... Except in sure another whine is coming...

"Number one, no one from here would see you unless it's free"... interesting some other johns think I have seen tricks from TER so you might want to confer with them as they as they pretty darn sure I have, so that negates the "no-one" absolute.  

I don't care who I see from where, as long as they pass my screening, pay me and respect my boundaries.  

And the wonderful thing is we all have choices.

AnotherDonJohn1183 reads

At least she changed her tune... Now, there are choices.  

Anyone getting turned on? Lol.

Posted By: ADJ
another whine is coming
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
"Number one, no one from here would see you unless it's free"... interesting some other johns think I have seen tricks from TER so you might want to confer with them as they as they pretty darn sure I have, so that negates the "no-one" absolute.  
   
 I don't care who I see from where, as long as they pass my screening, pay me and respect my boundaries.  
   
 And the wonderful thing is we all have choices.

Of course your time is valuable.  I'm sure you honestly believe it's more valuable than your johns time.  And the funny part is that it's the johns making the money to waste on fucking you.  But there's no accounting for taste...given the pics that many of your sisters post on the picture board.

Of course you do face time...and some misguided and horribly lonely souls may have paid for it at some point.  But I doubt you can get that often.  But I'm sure you'll bloviate you do...heck, you say it anyhow  LOL

BTW..how's that "other business" going?  Are you about ready to leave here?  I hope so...you have dropped into the abyss.  Not a good place to be happy!

Nothing wrong with narcissism either.  Unfortunately you've added delusion to it....not a good combination.

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
I don't need to waste my time I want to spend with true friends or doing things I love on johns. They either want to see me or not. I do a good job when they are paying me, they repeat and it is not because I have spent my valuable time listening to their blathering on my time. I will listen to all their crap and smile nicely and nod and agree etc when being paid.  
   
 I do face time, and get paid for it. Sorry you have to do the face time for free to keep your clients, might want to do  better "on the job"  to keep them satisfied.

That was a nice thing for you to do especially after only a couple visits with him, taylor

I've learned some Gals habve a fake provider personna, with fake info for prying hobbiests...  Jokes on them!  

Posted By: Katie_krush
Such as:  
  "do you have a boyfriend or husband?" You know what, the only thing you need to know is that I'm your girlfriend for this hour/hours.  
 I also don't like when asked if I have siblings cuz my sibling died and it's awkward to say that in session, it ruins the mood and I like to keep it lighthearted and fun...  
 "How did you get into this?" Um I don't think you want to know so I will just lie...  
 "Where do you live?" Why do you care?  
   
 I also resent being advised on my business. This is a fantasy, don't spoil it! Plus, I think I know what I am doing. I don't need any help thank you and this is actually insulting to me, lol.  
   
 It drains my energy to lie, and it also taints the connection a little.  I think some people don't know that it is possible to still have a great conversation and make a great and lasting connection without asking personal questions. Especially in the first session!

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JoelGoodsen924 reads

I never ask personal questions and one provider I saw decided one night for no reason I know of, to tell me her 'fake' name.   I never asked or even hinted that I wanted to know.   Since then, for reasons related to travel together I learned her real name.   She never addressed the fake name with me; she just told me her 'other' name  as we got to the airport.  I didn't ask but figured it would be good to know in case of a medical issue.  And maybe that wasn't real too but the ticket agent seemed to believe it was lol.  It wasn't a big deal, but I just was never sure why she did that.

I've had a couple guys contact me with references, and they tell me the real name of their reference! It's weird, like I'm pretty sure that this chick who I've never met, probably wouldn't want me to know her real name lol...
Besides, what am I supposed to say when I contact her: "he says your real name is ___"...like really? Lol

Posted By: JoelGoodsen
I never ask personal questions and one provider I saw decided one night for no reason I know of, to tell me her 'fake' name.   I never asked or even hinted that I wanted to know.   Since then, for reasons related to travel together I learned her real name.   She never addressed the fake name with me; she just told me her 'other' name  as we got to the airport.  I didn't ask but figured it would be good to know in case of a medical issue.  And maybe that wasn't real too but the ticket agent seemed to believe it was lol.  It wasn't a big deal, but I just was never sure why she did that.

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That's wild.  I guess they want to impress you with the fact that they're such a good client that they're trusted with her real name.  Or what they think may be her name lol. Def puts you in an odd spot.  I can't quite figure out why guys want to know 'real' names either.  I mean, like if I was dating Marilyn Monroe I think I'd rather know her as Marilyn than Norma Jean Whateveritishernamewas.    

And with the Internet and all the freaking record searches people can do, once someone has someone's real name they can cyberstalk their way into their past and present way too easily.   We all just need to enjoy the ride, it doesn't matter what the name of the captain is; just so long as she knows where we're going and the best way to get us there.

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Well,  have had most ladies ask me what I do IRL, and it makes me cringe  a little, even though I know you see all types. They also often  ask marital status. I have had several bring up boyfriends, husbands, sugar daddies, kids, how they started providing, "real" names. All without me asking anything. And a discussion/advice on hobbying seems to always come up. And one brought up STDs after we were redressed.
     I used to have several friends who danced, They had a stage name, one they gave their clients as their "real" name, and then their true name. I think there was often a second "real" name. I suspect providers are the same, and don't expect to learn the name on their DL. But if traveling, especially if passports were involved, it might be needed
    So, while I know not to bring up some topics ( and never have), reading those make you cringe, but having experienced ladies asking me the same things was kind of funny....

when both comments are paired together.

On the first one, though, I've said that myself.  My history is as a serial monogamist, so much of my sex has come in committed monogamous relationships.  I understand the need for condoms and use them.  I'm trying Magnum XLs now, but between constricting the penis and reducing sensation, there is a clear downside to condoms.  To elaborate, that statement may be paired with or replaced by at least one of the following:  

Sorry, I rarely cum from FS (because of the loss of sensation).

Sorry, I sometimes lose wood (for the same reason).

I prefer oral (BBBJ), because the sensation is better than CFS.

Just presenting my perspective.  If I were to say that, I'm not implying that I want BBFS.

I imagine that condoms reduce the sensation for most men, and I don't mind them telling me that they'd prefer a bj or hj because condoms reduce their pleasure. I'm happy to accommodate that.

I don't know if they're implying that they'd like bbfs or not, I think most may be implying that they'd be open to it if I'm open to it. And I am not open to it lol.

Thanks for the reply.  One of the hobbyists sent me a PM and suggested FCs.  I've tried them twice with mixed results, but think I should try again.

I am a pharmacist and once working in a retail store, I'm plugging away at the computer with my head down and I hear this sweet voice say, "Excuse me sir, but have you ever used these?"  I begin to look up and see a box of Trojan Magnums sticking in my face.  I hesitantly raise my gaze a little further and it's my WIFE being a smartass and grinning from ear to ear, so without missing a beat I reply, "Yes Miss, but I find them a tad snug".

Posted By: KL69069
when both comments are paired together.  
   
 On the first one, though, I've said that myself.  My history is as a serial monogamist, so much of my sex has come in committed monogamous relationships.  I understand the need for condoms and use them.  I'm trying Magnum XLs now, but between constricting the penis and reducing sensation, there is a clear downside to condoms.  To elaborate, that statement may be paired with or replaced by at least one of the following:    
   
 Sorry, I rarely cum from FS (because of the loss of sensation).  
   
 Sorry, I sometimes lose wood (for the same reason).  
   
 I prefer oral (BBBJ), because the sensation is better than CFS.  
   
 Just presenting my perspective.  If I were to say that, I'm not implying that I want BBFS.

I'd likely tell you that once you apply the condom to me, it'll be a short countdown to me losing my erection.  

My motivation is entirely different than what you've described, I simply want you to be aware that it's nothing to do with you. I have what I believe to be a mental block with condoms, it's as if the poor guy is being suffocated. And so I can't see providers that don't do bbbj or I'll never finish.

I know full well, and completely respect the established rules and so I've come to grips with the fact that I may never have another O from vaginal sex. Unless I can find a shrink that can cure me, lol.

I'd like to get over this mental affliction some day, perhaps it happens, perhaps not. But I can assure you I'll never try to sneakily remove it. And oh by the way, I've been told by more than one lady that my affliction is fairly common among hobbyists.

Just an fyi that not all guys that mention that have the agenda that you describe.

Pertaining to the STD (or lack there of) comment, I agree with your assessment.

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... Arrives at my room and a little while later tells me she need to check in with her husband to keep him from worrying.  Plus he knows the hotel and the room number we are in.  Later she decides that she wants to spend the night for no extra charge, and calls him to let him know.  Weird evening.

Asking who I have seen or when's the last time I saw someone or what we did together.

Reading and knowing that I don't do certain things, but still asking anyways and when I say no, still continue to ask and make a conversation about it (WTF).

I laugh when someone says they read and enjoy my posts on TER. Although one guy went back 6-7 years to read all of my posts (Hm).

Posted By: TaylorMassage
I have a few trigger phrases that will immediately put me on edge, and on alert if a client says them during our time together. I imagine that the comments are mostly harmless, and I try my best not to show my angst although I have failed at that more than once or twice.  
   
 Mentioning that condoms don't feel as nice as condom-less sex is the biggest trigger for me. Suddenly, I feel as though this person may be willing to sneakily remove the condom and all of my focus shifts to ensuring that it is still in place. The fun of the session is gone, and I'm turned into the condom police, that really sucks.  
   
 Comments about their "clean bill of health" std status, also put me on edge. I suppose I'm happy that they're std free, or at least believe themselves to be, but mentioning that to me makes me feel that they believe they pose no threat to me, so condom-less sex should be allowed. Once again, I'm turned into the condom police :(  
   
 I'm sure there are others that really get under my skin, but I'm very curious to hear your peeve phrases.  
 Guys, ladies, please share.... and give your why.

sometimes I have trouble 'finishing' with a condom on.  I hope that the ladies did not think that I was implying I wanted BBFS.  I don't think they did because I've never felt any awkwardness after saying it and it seemed like they knew what I meant.  Plus, I've always been welcomed for a return visit and repeated with several of them.  

I've never even thought about it possibly implying otherwise until I read Taylor's post.  I wonder if I should now add a disclaimer when I say it, that I'm not hinting that I'd like BBFS, just to be sure.  

One of my goals with an appointment is to leave with the lady thinking - 'I'd definitely like for him to schedule an appointment with me again'.

You can always finish the remark with.... "it is easier for me to finish with a hj or bj".... then it won't be taken the wrong way.

I think of the whole "I got a hard time with condoms" as a warning if things go soft. I don't personally take it as he is asking for bbfs unless he directly says something. If I assumed that with everyone, the crickets would be chirping quite often.  

If a guy says "I am allergic to all sorts of condoms" and doesn't bring the type he can use, then I'd show him the door. That is implying bbfs unless it is clarified that he doesn't want fs at all.

Things don't feel as nice with a condom..  
is different from
Things don't feel as nice with a condom so I'd love a bj or hj..
 
The second tells the problem, and the solution and makes me feel much more comfortable.

We finished without a condom, and I don't think you mentioned it, but I could tell that you were probably not going to be able to "get there" with it on. I certainly hope you enjoyed the way things ended :)

I don't think the guys are always implying that they'd like full service when they mention their no condom preference, but it does put me on guard, particularly if I haven't spent time with them before.

you also know you will see me again.  

I totally understand how it could put you on guard and take your mind out of the moment.    

Good thing you and I don't have this issue.

My boyfriend can go all night long.

Should I get the saran wrap?

Should I start the shower? (30 minutes into an hour session)

Where do you work?

Will you send a pic?

Are you married?

Oh, that's my ex boyfriend pounding on the door.

What do you want? said a man's voice after I knocked on her door at the designated time.

Don't mind the dogs. As she's barely holding them at bay in her lingerie. I can only imagine what happens to those who short change her.

Let me just take this call.

Those are just some high school kids in the other bedroom, don't worry.  

Damn, I got arrested when I was in SD.  

I'll be right there, as she's finishing cleaning the toilet in her lingerie.

My roommate won't bother us.  

Bark growl bark growl, snarled her upset little chihuahua as she was giving me the best deep throat I've ever had in my life

Why do you do this?  

 
I might look like slingblade, but after I hear her ask this I can only imagine what her other clients must look like.

What am I to believe now?  The foundations of my world have been shaken

I said my name was not BillyBob.

Question for you: Are you in CR fantasizing over my looks?

Why do you obsess over my appearance?... Certainly not the healthiest of behavior.

But not a fertile intellect.  More and more, you remind me of one of these

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If you would elaborate on that - I would really appreciate it.  

Usually when a provider starts pulling out the household items as part of a session - like a kiddy pool, a five gallon container of wesson and dishwashing gloves - something seriously decadent is about to happen....  which is a good thing.  

I can think of lots of good ways to use saran wrap in a session - but this apparently wasn't that.

Enquiring Minds want to know....  Please

In our hobby, we all use protection for a variety of different reasons. CFS, or covered full service is our hobby description. When she used the saran wrap to cover her pussy during daty, I couldn't believe it. The only time that's ever happened to me. It was anything but decadent. I was a good sport and tried it, but after a lick or two, it was time to move on to something else. That lady also was quoted elsewhere on my list above, and she was 45 minutes late. It was one of the worst sessions I've ever had. To add insult to injury, she had the most beautiful pussy I've ever seen. So to cover it was a huge disappointment

When I first started hobbyist after the open marriage agreement with my wife, I was on a date with a pro. Both the provider and I were new to this. In the initial get to know conversation I mentioned my wife's and mine arrangement.  

While balls deep in the lady she started asking questions about what my wife would do and if she fucked me the way she was fucking me.  

It annoyed me. First the last thing I wanted to think about balls deep in another lady is my wife. Especially since I still felt guilty fucking others at the time even though I had my wife's blessing. Second she wasn't as skilled nor as hot as my wife.

I think she thought it would turn me on or something. But it done the opposite.

Totally a mood killer. I got so annoyed I called my wife (my pants thus my phone was on the nightstand in reach) while still balls deep and handed the lady the phone and told her to ask my wife. The shock on the ladies face was priceless when she realized my wife was really on the phone. My wife hates talking on the phone but got a giggle over the concept of the call.

Moral of the story is don't talk about a guy's wife while fucking him. It is not what the guy wants to be thinking about.

I didn't care if she knew I was married. She asked, I answered. Then middle of sex she brought it up again. Before sex fine, after fine but during I want to focus on the woman I am fucking. It is about us then and not my wife. It is like a client mid sex talking about your clients. You told him your a sex worker right? Most providers find that annoying don't they?

If you don't want to chat about your wife, don't mention her at all. And for the record I could care less what the john I am with talks about, his wife, my clients, doesn't bother me. I tune most of it out anyway and get on with what I am being paid to do.

Look I would gladly talk about my wife before or after but during sex both my focus and hers should be on the enjoyment of the other and not the others other partners. She wasn't on par with the woman she was forcing comparisons to. Not even close. That alone casts her in a bad light. Add in at the time I couldn't even kiss the pros as it didn't feel right it annoyed me to no end.  

Look I am not saying she did anything evil, or necessarily that bad. It was just annoying and a huge turnoff. I know that was not her intent. I think she though it would have a different result. This thread was about harmless comments that made appointments less fun. Not mean, nasty, manipulative, or just plain evil comments that ruin a session.  

And I would give this hobby up if I had to lie to do it. Lies are no fun as you have to keep them up and are high maintenance. That is work, I the hobby is about enjoying myself not to work on maintaining a pile of BS. That just isn't fun

Maybe I should have not answered her when she asked, but I don't mind talking about my wife when not balls deep into someone else and she isn't there joining in. I doubt to many men while fucking a sex worker wants to be reminded of the little lady at home. Timing is everything. There is a great many things I have interest in talking about normally but not during actual sex. Before, after, fine but not during.

I am not being paid. If I was I would happily  talk about whatever no matter how inappropriate, annoying, or uninteresting the topic was. Hell I would even work the lies, but I am not.

I would also like to point out my response was not appropriate. I should have just asked her to shut up about my wife. I own my behavior was not the best. The session was a non starter for me but that doesn't justify my putting her on the spot like that. I get that. Trust me I do.

Honestly, I know what time I walked in or vice versa and begin working on her 5th "O" so to finish in time for her to have a smoke and a bath before her next session starts.

I understand why a guy says it feels better without a condom, thats a given. But I am 60 yrs old want  and the fact of the matter is I just cant seem to orgasm wearing a condom. Thats not to say I'm not enjoying what we're doing, I am, I'm just not going to cum that way. I don't want her to feel she's not giving me pleasure,she is, I just want to let her know I would like to finish with a HJ or russian etc. Should I tell her this maybe before we get started?

Posted By: TaylorMassage
I have a few trigger phrases that will immediately put me on edge, and on alert if a client says them during our time together. I imagine that the comments are mostly harmless, and I try my best not to show my angst although I have failed at that more than once or twice.  
   
 Mentioning that condoms don't feel as nice as condom-less sex is the biggest trigger for me. Suddenly, I feel as though this person may be willing to sneakily remove the condom and all of my focus shifts to ensuring that it is still in place. The fun of the session is gone, and I'm turned into the condom police, that really sucks.  
   
 Comments about their "clean bill of health" std status, also put me on edge. I suppose I'm happy that they're std free, or at least believe themselves to be, but mentioning that to me makes me feel that they believe they pose no threat to me, so condom-less sex should be allowed. Once again, I'm turned into the condom police :(  
   
 I'm sure there are others that really get under my skin, but I'm very curious to hear your peeve phrases.  
 Guys, ladies, please share.... and give your why.

for me a turn off is when the lady discusses the sexual prowess of her other clients. Let's see, there was "he came four times during our session" and "he's as big around as a Coke can."  
not quite as bad but also in same camp is "wait a minute, let me finish checking my messages" or "I just need to email this guy back, I'll be with you in a minute"

almost ended the session.  I was with this HOT HOT HOT young thing-I don't think she is in the business any longer, but you can see her video on youtube...Jenna Exotic-and I am and old fart and just as she turns her exquisite ass to me for a little doggy, I blurt out, trying to be funny...Wow, are you even old enough to be doing this?  Needless to say it didn't go over well, but we recovered and had a great session and several afterwards.

Posted By: TaylorMassage
I have a few trigger phrases that will immediately put me on edge, and on alert if a client says them during our time together. I imagine that the comments are mostly harmless, and I try my best not to show my angst although I have failed at that more than once or twice.  
   
 Mentioning that condoms don't feel as nice as condom-less sex is the biggest trigger for me. Suddenly, I feel as though this person may be willing to sneakily remove the condom and all of my focus shifts to ensuring that it is still in place. The fun of the session is gone, and I'm turned into the condom police, that really sucks.  
   
 Comments about their "clean bill of health" std status, also put me on edge. I suppose I'm happy that they're std free, or at least believe themselves to be, but mentioning that to me makes me feel that they believe they pose no threat to me, so condom-less sex should be allowed. Once again, I'm turned into the condom police :(  
   
 I'm sure there are others that really get under my skin, but I'm very curious to hear your peeve phrases.  
 Guys, ladies, please share.... and give your why.

The one that gets me, is when a lady mentions her boyfriend or hubby. Trust me, I'm all about the NSA and I don't confuse this for dating. But during my time with a provider, I like to fantasize about the GFE. And hearing about her significant other kind of is a bummer.  

It makes me believe that you'll be thinking of his cock while I'm railing you.

Posted By: TaylorMassage
ladies, please share.... and give your why.
Presumably your skitishness is due to your age and that your reviews go back only two years.  Your "getting on edge" might be one reason your earlier reviews were 6 & 7's.

"Talk dirty to me."  

Quickest way to put me on the spot. Then I get all awkward.

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