"If there aren't already girls offering "extras" at the club, then don't even ask." My successes have always been at clubs where girls are not offering extras.
"If you haven't already spent an absolute minimum of $100 on her, don't even ask." Once you've spent that kind of money in the club it will take you far more away from club and BCD than you need to pay.
Anyone ever asked a hot stripper at a gentlemens club if she provides or willing to make extra special activities outside of the club? If so, what are the responses?
My wife couldn't get enough of this one stripper and after some amazing couples' lap dances she got her number. They texted back and forth for a few days trying to find a common schedule for all three of us. Eventually the girl clued my wife in that this wasn't free so she (wife) called it off.
I didn't
The result in my case turned out to be a long discussion in the club's parking lot about how different things were in the clubs in New Orleans where she used to work compared to the clubs here in Los Angeles. I didn't end up making a date, and unless you count jawing over coffee and cigarettes OTC time, it was sort of a disappointing ending to the evening.
She didn't resent my asking. I'm sure it happens often enough to all of them.
One other time I gave a dancer my number in case she wanted to make some extra money after closing, and nothing happened that night. But a few weeks later I got a call from her in the middle of the afternoon. She wanted me to come by and watch her dance that night. It sounded wrong, like she was in desperate straits with the management or not bringing in enough business or something. I told her I couldn't make it and maybe some other time. Never saw her again.
Here's some tips:
If there aren't already girls offering "extras" at the club, then don't even ask.
If you haven't already spent an absolute minimum of $100 on her, don't even ask.
If it's not a nude club, don't even ask.
Don't ask within five minutes. Like I said, spend money on her. And don't ask out in the open. Take her to a VIP room. Even if we do it, we can get shit from the other girls and management if they overhear.
When you do ask, don't open up with "I'd love to see you outside the club." I heard that a million times a night and every single time, it was annoying.
Most men that I ended up entertaining outside the club were up front but still subtle. They'd ask how much for a date, simple as that. Make sure you mention money first. A LOT of men like to waste our time and even if we do entertain outside the club, we won't go with someone who seems cheap or like they just want a stripper girlfriend for free.
This goes for more upscale clubs, obviously. When I worked briefly at a sleazy club, girls would go in the parking lot and do full service for a hundred bucks. If that's what you want, fine, but, if you're at the type of place that's $200-400/hr VIP, you have to be the most gentlemanly possible.
As for response, it depends on the girl. I obviously did it, but, I'lll leave other guys' experiences up to them.
Guys who come to ogle your tits and ass, would like to have sex with you away from the club.
If there aren't already girls offering "extras" at the club, then don't even ask.
If you haven't already spent an absolute minimum of $100 on her, don't even ask.
If it's not a nude club, don't even ask.
Don't ask within five minutes. Like I said, spend money on her. And don't ask out in the open. Take her to a VIP room. Even if we do it, we can get shit from the other girls and management if they overhear.
When you do ask, don't open up with "I'd love to see you outside the club." I heard that a million times a night and every single time, it was annoying.
Most men that I ended up entertaining outside the club were up front but still subtle. They'd ask how much for a date, simple as that. Make sure you mention money first. A LOT of men like to waste our time and even if we do entertain outside the club, we won't go with someone who seems cheap or like they just want a stripper girlfriend for free.
This goes for more upscale clubs, obviously. When I worked briefly at a sleazy club, girls would go in the parking lot and do full service for a hundred bucks. If that's what you want, fine, but, if you're at the type of place that's $200-400/hr VIP, you have to be the most gentlemanly possible.
As for response, it depends on the girl. I obviously did it, but, I'lll leave other guys' experiences up to them.
In my experience the more you spend on a stripper, especially in the VIP room buying lap dances, the more money she is going to want. You are giving her the idea that you have plenty of money, are pretending to be a big shot, and are willing to pay "top dollar" for off premise sex.
Where the fuck is Jack when you need him? because this class needs serious lessons in negotiation. The idea behind picking up a stripper is to not appear too cheap, but not looking like a sucker. A stripper would much rather bleed a sucker dry in the VIP room with out ever seeing his dick, much less having had to fuck him.
The other thing that will kill your chances in a strip club is to be "too eager" once again she will look at you as a sucker and do her best to separate you from all your money "In the club" and then you can join the crowd of losers waiting out in front of the club at closing time, while the dancers leave out the back to go party with their real Boyfriends and Dates who know how to play the game.
I have dated many strippers in my life, and I used to love to watch one of my exes "work the room" she would have three different guys thinking that they were going home with her, but every night she came home with me. I kind of felt sorry for the poor schmucks, but it didn't keep me from laughing at them. lol
You're pretty much supporting what I was saying.
No, don't look cheap, but, obviously, you don't have to spend hundreds and hundreds. I just never went out with anyone who didn't at least take me to VIP or buy a few dances. I also never went with anyone who practically begged or thought simply offering money would get me to do everything they wanted (or, like I said, asked within five minutes). Plenty of men also successfully negotiated my price down, but, negotiation has always worked for me if I start high but appear flexible.
Some girls don't want to fuck at all ever and WILL bleed you dry if they know what they're doing, by leading you on with no intention of going through with it. You have to find the ones who are actually open to and would like something like that. Not every girl would.
Anyway, you're not disagreeing with me, as much as I know you love to. You're sharing your experiences which, for the most part, completely align with mine.
Where the fuck is Jack when you need him? because this class needs serious lessons in negotiation. The idea behind picking up a stripper is to not appear too cheap, but not looking like a sucker. A stripper would much rather bleed a sucker dry in the VIP room with out ever seeing his dick, much less having had to fuck him.
The other thing that will kill your chances in a strip club is to be "too eager" once again she will look at you as a sucker and do her best to separate you from all your money "In the club" and then you can join the crowd of losers waiting out in front of the club at closing time, while the dancers leave out the back to go party with their real Boyfriends and Dates who know how to play the game.
I have dated many strippers in my life, and I used to love to watch one of my exes "work the room" she would have three different guys thinking that they were going home with her, but every night she came home with me. I kind of felt sorry for the poor schmucks, but it didn't keep me from laughing at them. lol
Ok, maybe we don't disagree after all, does this mean I have to go find someone else to argue with??? lol
Give it five minutes, we'll disagree on something else, again, lol.
...in the negotiation process. Although my presence in the clubs is unique and my approach is slightly different, it boils down to the same thing- not spending too much $$$ on dances, not appearing too eager or (god forbid) desperate, and being willing to negotiate. I sometimes don't have to pay at all since some dancers just want to hook up or are bi curious and just want to try dipping their toe in the lady pond (woo hoo!), but even the ones that want payment will respond much better to someone who at least appears to know what they are doing in setting it up OTC.
The club rules said "no tricks." But she wanted to fuck for money, so she did. Right there at the club. Soon, she said, all the girls were doing it. She loved the idea she'd blazed a new trail. But that's her kink: she's well off and doesn't need to fuck for money. The idea of it just turns her on. Lord, I miss her.
Nah, can't be the same girl.... LOL I know a woman who has a very similar story. Started out in a strip club, she would get so horny by the end of the evening, that if the last guy she danced for had a pulse, was clean and had cash in his wallet, he was gettin some of that pussy. She decided “why bother with the the club?” and set out on a very successful run as an escort. Was a fave of mine for a long time. She would do a private lap dance that was so fucking sexy and as she ground her pelvis into mine put her hands on my shoulders and whispered dirty secrets into my hear as she made my head swim.. Ha, just writing this I can almost feel her presence and remember her scent, she was an erotic dynamo...
Okay, now see what you started Nicky? I'm not lounging poolside in Jaco and can just pick a hot Tica to relieve me, sheesh, I have to get on the phone.....L O L
And as to the question asked by the OP, I have had sex with many strippers over the years, usually not in the club. I agree with GaGa, you need some game to do this, but many girls enjoy the sex and of course want the $$$. Some have Bfs who don't allow it, so a guy has to be discrete even when asking.
Mine was from upstate NY and a bit away from your stomping grounds. She was quite the little sex machine.
Your post just brought back great memories and the woman I was thinking about was also "quite the little sex machine". Let's face it, some of the women who come through our lives make very strong impressions, the good ones like these two and of course the others...oh well, that's a whole other thread topic..... LOL
I wish we could trad places for a month.
This way. You could make my body rich, and I could make your body..
Ummm. Drunk?
Disagree on point three.
I've scored regularity from all nude clubs to bikini bars and everything in between. First two recommendations are solid, however.
"If there aren't already girls offering "extras" at the club, then don't even ask." My successes have always been at clubs where girls are not offering extras.
"If you haven't already spent an absolute minimum of $100 on her, don't even ask." Once you've spent that kind of money in the club it will take you far more away from club and BCD than you need to pay.
"If it's not a nude club, don't even ask." My multiple successes have always been at clubs where girls are not nude. I've never had a success at nude clubs (nude rip off joints don't count)
I've found the key is to let the dancer find you. Also, if you know the dynamics of strip clubs and what the dancers go thru to work there (house fees, payouts), you know the business cycles of the club you are going to (busy times etc), and then you pay attention to a normal calender (people need more money the last few days of the month, before school starts, etc), you can end up with quite a good time by "being at the right place at the right time."
I've also found it far easier to arrange for a night out on the town before you go for private time. Many dancers are on the fence about the idea a just being a straight out $250 escort. But... offering to "get some dinner, have some drinks, shoot some pool, go back to my room for fun" when you are willing to pay out her $100 house fees (that she thinks she will have to work all night to cover on a slow night) and give her $400 cash when you take her home becomes very appealing to some dancers. Especially if they have contemplated something like that but have never done it before.
Now you have a $500 (plus dinner and drinks) for an entire evening out with playtime. Where do you find that???
Yes, it's a YMMV situation. My experience has been they like to drink and start to get a little wild when you are out, so if you are actually a fun guy, when you get back to you room, there is no such thing as a clock and very few limits
you my flatulent friend, "get it" lol
good post
you just gotta learn what makes people tick.
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...of them about 4 times outside of the club. I paid her the going one hour rate for my area. One other I saw regularly for about four months but we just used the VIP room in the club. I paid the club VIP room rate which is less than a session. The others that said yes wanted too much when compared to an hour with a provider.
i remember being on a business trip in San Antonio and several of the strippers and one waitress were offering to come to our "hotel" after hours for a 100 over the local rate. I couldn't figure out why our table was getting so much attention until one of the guys fessed up. He asked, and accepted, the higher rate and buddy fucked the other guys at the table. Prick!
Once in Las Vegas. Ended up seeing her every time I was In Vegas for about 3 years until she priced herself out of my range.
Then another time locally. Very hot blond who broke all the rules in the VIP lounge. Then she asked me if I wanted to hook up later. Even had greek on the menu.
And I've been to Tootsies.
I'm gay, and wimpy..... I know.
cannot hurt to ask, it is usually cheaper that spending $ at the club with no chance of getting laid there.
I asked one. She said yes, and gave me her number. Unfortunately, she didn't answer her phone when I called, so that was the last time. With the thousands of ads, we don't really need to hit on the strippers anymore. Besides, in some places...........well you know what I mean.
Yep, I once asked a stripper if she would allow me to pay her $300/hour for her "time". I wasn't expecting her to say yes, and my expectation was accurate. She politely declined. Because she was nice about it and didn't try to get me thrown out of the club or arrested, I paid her for a lap dance.
Perhaps it's the sour grapes in me, but looking back, it's probably good she said no. If she said yes, who knows what kind of danger or drama I would have been opening myself up to?
Your mistake was likely asking her BEFORE you had paid for a few lap dances -- but not TOO many. Once you've had a few lap dances and she knew that you were a nice guy and not a jerk, she might have been more likely to say yes if she escorted off the clock. But without a few lap dances first, she was very unlikely to say yes, because you might have seemed desperate or potentially LE.
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Once had a gal give me her number without ever asking... We hooked up a couple of times outside the club... at no cost, and this same gal would give me extra dances for free... Never understood what this young slim blonde saw in me, but I wasn't going to complain... LOL.
Another time, at a different club, a gal and I were drinking at the bar. I was stalling her on getting a lap dance when she let me know she'd be willing to go home with me for a price. I passed not because of the price, but because I wasn't drunk enough...or maybe I was too drunk...it's still kinda hazy.
so a lot of the prestige and bragging rights of getting a strippers digits is long gone. They often have separate phones just for customers so that they can get them back to the club to get more money out of them. The promise of OTC fun is never usually realized, but the PL has no clue until he/she has spent a ton of money in the club and finally gets tired of being strung along with no chance of an OTC hook up.
All the time & they always go super big. I have been quoted $500 to 5k & I assume it is 1 pop. What until closing time, then inquire the rate declines dramatically.
mostly they say no they don't but every once in a while one will say yes and give you a number....and then the number is fake and you spent those dollars in the private room counting on more later. Also, once I texted one and got a response, but we never met up and she kept texting trying to hook up.