You could do a search looking for a combination of massage and DFK. That will give you some results. There are a few GFE providers in town who offer massage and various other menu items: LFK, DFK, etc. For the ones I would recommend, there is no "hidden menu". Their reviews pretty much state what they offer to most if not all clients. But of course, YMMV, as the saying goes. I've never known a provider to subtly upgrade her menu after a few visits, although with some, there has been an increasing level of what I would call genuine friendliness as I gradually transitioned from first encounter to a regular. In at least one notable case, the GFE kind of took over from the FBSM, but no complaints from my perspective. I have experienced one interesting phenomenon. I visited a provider a few years back who excels in FBSM. She's well known on the local scene. No sooner was I in the door than she commenced an incredible series of DFKs, followed by a happy beginning, FBSM, and a happy ending as well. I went back to see her a year or so later, and in the meantime she'd evolved into also offering FS / GFE experience to regulars. I was looking for FBSM, and interesting there was absolutely no kissing offered on the second visit. That seemed to have been relegated for the FS upgrade. The moral of the story - providers develop their business models and have their own specific comfort levels and rules. Its up to us to play by the rules, and from my experience in general if you do, and you choose wisely, you can have a lot of fun.
What percentage of FBSM providers offer GFE? Or is that something that develops over time with the right clientele? Is that something that you ask for when deciding to schedule with a provider? In my limited experience (3 providers) with FBSM, I have experienced this once and it was never discussed ahead of time. It was on the 3rd visit where the provider "crossed that line" and began to introduce passion into the session with lots of slow kisses around the neck and ears and transitioned to LFK and then DFK. This is also where the mutual touching began. On the 5th and 6th visit she asked me to taste her and kiss her down there, which was something I never asked about and wasn't expecting. I'm definitely glad it happened, but didn't want to ask for that and get denied.
Needless to say, I'm very happy with the current situation and not looking elsewhere, but am curious to know if this experience is something that is a rarity or is a common progression with repeated visits with most FBSM providers? I know YMMV, but I'm looking for a consensus among guys who frequent The FBSM world and who have received similar treatment to help shed some light on this subject.
Thanks for any insight.
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Who is this provider? Might want to kiss her "down there" also
Don't know how you could determine a percentage who do this. However, in my limited experience with FBSM providers, all have provided GFE. I believe my 100% rate stems from me checking their reviews; and in some cases just asking if they provide GFE. That way there are no guessing games, which I detest.
You could do a search looking for a combination of massage and DFK. That will give you some results. There are a few GFE providers in town who offer massage and various other menu items: LFK, DFK, etc. For the ones I would recommend, there is no "hidden menu". Their reviews pretty much state what they offer to most if not all clients. But of course, YMMV, as the saying goes. I've never known a provider to subtly upgrade her menu after a few visits, although with some, there has been an increasing level of what I would call genuine friendliness as I gradually transitioned from first encounter to a regular. In at least one notable case, the GFE kind of took over from the FBSM, but no complaints from my perspective. I have experienced one interesting phenomenon. I visited a provider a few years back who excels in FBSM. She's well known on the local scene. No sooner was I in the door than she commenced an incredible series of DFKs, followed by a happy beginning, FBSM, and a happy ending as well. I went back to see her a year or so later, and in the meantime she'd evolved into also offering FS / GFE experience to regulars. I was looking for FBSM, and interesting there was absolutely no kissing offered on the second visit. That seemed to have been relegated for the FS upgrade. The moral of the story - providers develop their business models and have their own specific comfort levels and rules. Its up to us to play by the rules, and from my experience in general if you do, and you choose wisely, you can have a lot of fun.
Kind of tagging along with the original question, is there a general consensus that with a $150 or $200 per hour fbsm provider that you are more than likely to get a GFE experience without having to pay any extra?
I'd rather pay the higher amount to begin with and not have to get charged extra for mutual touch or DFK or DATY. Again is that something you ask upon meeting or wait until after the first visit is over and if it goes well then maybe ask if mutual touch or DFK will be an option upon further visits?
200. I doubt you'll get GFE for 150. Find out right at beginning of first date, rather than waiting til end then hoping you get more on second date IMO.
Like Cobraa says, 200 is in my experience the benchmark for GF-FBSM. Some creative providers do offer occasional discounts, like 1.5 hours for the same price. I doubt if 150 will get you more than a massage with happy ending.
I offer both GFE and FBSM.
I find the clients that request an FBSM rather than
a GFE experience, really do desire an authentic sports-type
deep massage, coupled with sensuous mutual pleasuring.
These clients tend to be a bit shy at first about the full GFE experience,
however, after a hot FBSM, they will come back for GFE.
Regarding donation; each provider seems to be very
different on what their FBSM offering really entails.
We have lots of massage providers here in San Diego! Find someone with reviews mentioning things you're looking for and see if the providers price point is desirable. Good luck!
Go to "search" providers, scroll to the bottom and click on "advanced search".
You can enter in whatever criteria you are looking for. You can try FBSM with DFK, then FBSM with DFK and DATY...you can even enter in 150-200 and see if anything comes up. Probably some ladies will pop up. It's a huge data base. Be sure to enter "San Diego". You can enter an age range, ethnicity...everything you can imagine.
Good luck!