When you see ads that offer great pleasure, availability right the way anywhere , or if the person who answer your phone call promise you everything sexual on the phone with no reservations start worrying.
Either the person behind the ad or who answer thee phone is a mugger, robber , sex slave or LE.
Independent providers are usually discrete and cautious because that person is a legit provider who care about her safety, freedom and cares about meeting certain people like the ones respectful, polite and harmless
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I know many of you are going to say to avoid Craigslist and Backpage to be safe but those sites are still filled with mostly legitimate providers. Yes there may be bait & switch or low quality providers on those sites but my question is what sorts of ads is LE putting on social media sites and how can we spot them?
There no history or most. Real providers have adds on free sights the you only find by google there number.
you might not want to respond.
First off when you said BP and CL are filled with "mostly legitimate providers" you are wrong. There are definitely legitimate providers on those sites, but I definitely wouldn't say "mostly." I think (depending on the area) they are mostly filled with scams, robs, and stings. You need to know how to weed through those to find the legitimate ones.
The best bet is to stick with ladies who are well reviewed. Whatever site you find them on (including BP), research them. Google phone numbers, contact info, names, and image search the pictures. It's not impossible for LE to arrest and turn a well reviewed lady, or to take over her account, so nothing is 100%, but while not "impossible," it is "highly unlikely" that you will walk into a sting if you are seeing a well reviewed provider.
Now if you insist on seeing unreviewed ladies and TOFTT (and hey, somebody has to, or no lady would get their first review) then there are things to look for.
In looking at BP type ads, look for ads that repeat. LE won't normally repeat the same ads with the same pics and same phone numbers. Once they do a sting, the ad will usually get outed, so they come up with new ads. I would never contact a brand new ad that popped up for the first time. I look for some history. If an ad keeps repeating over a period of time, it is probably not LE. Doesn't mean it's not a scam or B&S though. Other things to look for are if it looks TGTBT, it is. Hot model pics with ridiculously low rates, if not an LE sting are almost guaranteed to be B&S or Scam. There are many other things to look for but those are a couple of basics. A couple other things are that LE stings will almost always be incall. They want to get the maximum number of Johns hauled in, and will not usually risk sending a UC female LEO to an outcall.
Bottom line: If you are a newbie, or are risk adverse, or are a high profile person (government official, celebrity), don't TOFTT! Stick with well reviewed, verifiable providers. If you have some experience, are a little bit of a gambler, want to discover the hidden gems, enjoy a little thrill, and your life won't completely fall apart if you do get busted, then by all means TOFTT, but use the big head instead of the little one, use logic, be aware of surroundings, develop and use your "spidey sense" and be ready to bail. (pun intended)
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Backpage works with LE. It's the easiest way to set up a sting. LE advertises what Johns want.
Barely legal or I just turned 18. Pictures that are to good to be true of cute young ladies. Reasonable or cheap prices. 420 friendly is another one so they can pile on charges. Budget motels near expressways.
They want the best "bang" for their buck. Make it easy and busted Johns end up stacked up like cordwood.
High quality photo's without a link to a legit site like TER is probably at least a bait and switch. I assume you do look up the phone number through TER or some other place. You check the photo's through tineye. (let me know if there are better options)
Personally, I haven't be able to get over my fear of those things to use BP. Yet. Seems like when, I've looked I haven't found much that's interested me enough to contact them. The ones with reviews usually have low ratings and limited menus.
The only thing I would add is that Google image search seems to work much better than tineye. Be safe.
follow any links & ads in your area. Complete the research. Starting with BP takes way more time to research & you should be eliminating non-reviewed providers anyway.
If they don't have reviews by established reviewers don't call them. There are plenty of legit ladies on BP with great reputations. You just have to find them.
When you never heard of them before, but they are HOT, young, willing to do anything, and their rate is $120... they just might be a cop.
When they have no reviews, they just might be a cop.
If they text you to ask what kind of service you want, they just might be a cop.
When they say "No AA" then they probably aren't a cop. (Cops will gladly serve all races)
When you call and ask for a blowjob or something sexual/illegal like that, and they immediately hang up on you, they probably aren't a cop.
If they are advertising FBSM and say they don't do FS, they are probably not a cop.
So after 6.5 years you need help spotting LE ads on CL or BP? SPOTY has clearly an early front runner. Well done!
How about this situation.....
So a massage provider (let's call the provider "Susan" for now) has approx 20 TER reviews. Many of the guys who wrote the TER reviews have reviews they wrote going back several years for a number of other providers. Everything looks great. Nobody is going to that kind of effort (Faking that many TER reviews and setting up that many TER user accounts to look like she was well reviewed) to set up a sting. This same provider is posting on BP.
Now this provider (Susan) sets up a brand new TER account called Susan_2 and posts Ads on BP saying she is well reviewed. But the TER ID listed in the BP Ad is attached to "Susan" on TER and not the new "Susan_2" account on TER. You really have no idea if "Susan" and "Susan_2" are the same person or if LE registered the new "Susan_2" account claiming to be "Susan".
The confusing thing is that the TER "Susan" account has multiple email addresses listed on the profile and one of the addresses is the email account "Susan_2" is communicating from. So might be the same person. But I don't know if when someone writes a review they can enter the provider's email address and it would show up as a second email address on the TER profile of the provider? If that is true, then LE could post the most recent review of "Susan" and add "Susan_2's email address to the "Susan" profile to give "susan_2 more legitimacy. Then if you look at the "Susan profile" and the person's Ad site has an email address that is not the one that "Susan_2" is communicating from, that looks suspicious too.
What would you do? Avoid that provider due to the red flags?
Here is the thing, if Susan was still providing she isn't going to forget how to log into her "susan" account on TER. Thus there was no reason to set up the Susan_2 account on TER. Also, assume Susan actually did forget how to access her "Susan" account on TER. she should certainly be able to retrieve the account info with the email address she had been using for "Susan"
The final concern, is Susan_2 not requiring any references.
What is your bet.... LE or not LE
Avoid it - just too many red flags. My guess - the Susan account has been highjacked by another, different provider or possibly pimp/bandit.
LE would be the least of my concerns... At least with LE, you won't be dead at the end of the evening. So - actually, my bet would be not LE.
If, in fact, Susan is just a flake -- well, lots more fish in the sea; why mess with it
There was a recent nationwide series of stings during Superbowl week, as your attachment notes. The article mentions BP and CL, as usual. As for telltales in their ads, I would refer to lack of reviews as being the biggest red flag. Beyond that, it seems Uncle Leo is knowledgeable enough to disguise their ads adequately...they always seem to bag fools in the hundreds.
Best advice? NO reviews, caveat emptor. We don't call it TOFTT for nothing. And also beware that LE targets BP and CL...they tend to aim for the lowest hanging fruits to maximize numbers, and those sites are the lowest on the tree.
San Diego Criminal Defense Attorney Benjamin Theule explains how police officers set up online prostitution stings to lure unsuspecting johns into a situation where they can be arrested for solicitation.
This explains how law enforcement plans and executes a Backpage sting.
"This ad is sponsored by the Chicago Police Department, vice unit."
I'd stay away from those. 
But I would highly doubt that the gambit would avoid getting you arrested.
First of all, I'm not totally sure in all areas that paying someone to do a strip tease is completely legal. There could be various regulations broken just by that alone.
Secondly, there's no way the LE is going to let you walk after you enter the room, without them at least accosting you as you're leaving and asking why you were there, what you were up to, etc. No one has time for that kind of shit either.
What the narrator doesn't mention but which we chant like a mantra here is: See only well reviewed providers.
Female cop: "I don't understand these guys who want to pay for sex. Why can't you meet a nice girl, take her out for dinner, and do it the nice way?"
Uh, what's the difference?
And the first cop coming into the room and pointing a gun at the guy. Was anyone there at risk of great bodily harm? That's the standard for pointing a gun. The cop was guilty of brandishing a weapon and reckless endangerment.
And all these cops to nab one guy who responded to an ad for a TER 8?
I also don't understand why 5 cops with guns drawn are taking down this guy as if he had just murdered everybody in the room. Completely inappropriate response considering the nature of the alleged offense. Do they pull guns on the people that they issue speeding tickets to as well?
Uh, what's the difference?
And the first cop coming into the room and pointing a gun at the guy. Was anyone there at risk of great bodily harm? That's the standard for pointing a gun. The cop was guilty of brandishing a weapon and reckless endangerment.
And all these cops to nab one guy who responded to an ad for a TER 8?
I had a cop start to draw on me because the reflector on my motorcycle license plate partially obscured the "W" in WI.
I'm sure there were some serious crimes going on while those five were arresting those dangerous horny guys.
Obscuring the W in WI, that is.
They'd have to get a much prettier and younger lady cop to lure me.
When you see ads that offer great pleasure, availability right the way anywhere , or if the person who answer your phone call promise you everything sexual on the phone with no reservations start worrying.
Either the person behind the ad or who answer thee phone is a mugger, robber , sex slave or LE.
Independent providers are usually discrete and cautious because that person is a legit provider who care about her safety, freedom and cares about meeting certain people like the ones respectful, polite and harmless
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If you see ads that sound like "I am available now and you will have the time of your life " or if you call them and they start talking freely about s...e...x and b...j on the phone or email be sure they are LE trying to get you and your bail money (5000 bucks to be précised) .
Big LE business with entrapping for soliciting illegal services so recording your voice on the phone soliciting these services is evidence what they need to make some money of you (provider's client) or provider who admits offering illegal services in email or on the phone .
So keep your mouth shut and read TER reviews on verified providers personal sites to get your answers about who does what quietly .
i dont accept reference unless it is a lady with reviews and a web site.
I also cross check the email or number he provided to contact the lady, shows it is linked to her web site and or ter profile and not some random email he is using to pretend to be her, which happens!
google the number and or be sure its same email and number as the web site linked to ter.
other than that if gonna toft.
I escorted/massage for years sans reviews or web sites never had any problems,
When going rogue or whatever back then, my one rule?
i never would talk sex on phone . I d say it is massage only ,,,always and followed that rule of thumb, If they mentioned sex or anything ilegal, or whatev i d hang up or just insist it is ONLY a massage.
technically even you are speaking with a cop, and it is bait n switch, if you never incriminate yourself by verbally making request for sex for fee.
I have done business with off duty cops as well and it is funny because they know the laws also and will come in get thier appt and simply drop the donation as listed on dresser, they have knowledge if laws and know how to cver thier own asses too.
I had three off duty cops that i KNOW of that came for appts, One thing is they never ever metnioned sex nor did i.
just dont be stupid and dont be a rookie and dont like have the opening line on every phone call be "do you do gfe?"
if your gonna godam take that risk and do it in that way {sans ter sans reviews}
that is fine i escorted for years with out reviews or screening and never had issues,
I never took money in my hand and of course be weary of people tryin to get you to admit to sex for fee, either doing it, or seeking it, on my end i am on red alert for phone calls text or emails in which they are looking to get me to admit or put in writing that sex for a fee, is avl. I know to delete those texts emails and simply hang up or say wrong number to the calls like this.
on your end as john. You do realize there is NOTHING ilegal about 2 consenting adults meeting up off the internet... Thats legal and done everyday.
exchanging money for sex acts is whats ilegal, So just dont do a had to hand transaction EVER. and dont talk or ask or mention sex on phone,
plenty of ladies are utr or just plain dont want reviews or like in my case back then , spending money on a web site? sittin down to learn navigating ter? yeah right! Alot of college girls have NO intention on makin a business or career or puttin any time or money into thier business, Dont nessecarily make em bad providers they just may only wanna run business a certain way,..
Just dont use any terms like greek gfe bbj, blo job, kissing.
and check out the cape wen site and educate yourself, They usually are fairly obvi when they call me the first thing they say is like" how much for a blow job?' " or " Are you full gfe?"
i always know when cops lookin to bust some one call they are very obvious because all they do is try n get you to state thier is sex for fee offered.
I can meet up with as many men i meet online to escort for, as in exchange my time for money. Escorting is legal. Escorting some one to a show or entertaining them period is legal. Accepting a donation for a bill is fine, Charging money for sex ilegal and the idiots that talk about it on the phone to a under cover,
I mean serously, basically any one talkin about ilegal stuff on phone or seeking it, blatenly, how dumb can you be?
I just assume its a cop or detetctive when i get those calls OR that is simply a foolish person,
and we all know a foolish associate is more dangerous than a clever opponant. I tend to run the other way when i smell foolishness and or carelessness.
I never been pinched for sex for fee and dont want too! but associated with disorganized careless unedicated rookies that have nothing to lose, i happen to have alot to lose, A pumped out apt with marble floors i busted my tail feather to get.
awsome expensive exotic pets and a pedigree dog worth over a grand, i have alot of pressouis cargo not to mention carrying a child now.
People wanna act the fool good for them i will fuckin hang up on thier fuckin ass.
also keep in mind ladies not screening usually are either usin a driver , and they call him when they enter the room, to say ok got in ok, and give room number, then if she aint out that room in a little over an hour, quite a few of em they got a thug in the car thatl come in and break the door down,
Down think for a second that ladies NOT screening you guys dont have toher ways , some may have a huge guy in a empty hotel room next door,
When i didnot know how to screen i more often than not would have some one with a license to carry as a driver,
or Id make sure there was a guy that can fuck some one up with in arms reach , I even lived next door to one once and if ever an issue i ran next door and banged on his window,
he come over he was juiced up so he looked omg scary!
one time some guys gave me hard time about payin i ran next door and got him ha those fuckin losers paid me fast after. He fuckin scared the godam crap out of em,
any hoo if they aint screening, unless they are on crack and simply dont care which may be there case.too.
i mean if your alone and inviting random guys in and stuiff you gotta figure from the johns perspective,
trust n belief she has a back up plan in event ay one gets fresh,
so the choice is yours do you wanna do that? not many wmen these days are gonna actually be alone in a hotel and invite a total stranger in, none that i know any how.
another incall i had in dorchester the rooming house, I had 4 male roomates! so the clients had to wak by 4 closed doors all with guys behind them!
and the roomie in room next door to me was a black belt in karate.
that was when i was 22, I jst didnt screen then but again i was in a rooming house filled with male friends, so i knew anything happened theyd hear me.
its your cal do you want to take risks on your end? girls not screening at least when i didnt screen back in the day i definetly had other security measures in the mix. as back up.
and if she has no reviews, then wel if i was a guy i d learn the ter ropes and juist see reviewed. i am too old for drama and danger and worry and risks, I am just not ok wth al that un nessecary drama no more. If your ok with it then go for it