I had a pay for play session recently where the woman I hired had several ads where her stated age was 38 and 39. But when she showed up she was a woman clearly in her 50's. So i got to wondering.......we check to make sure a guy is legit and not LE and we check as best we can to make sure a women is legit and not LE but it doesnt seem we have any means to check ages. Shouldnt we, especially in this day and age of high tech? I just felt ripped off. Dont get me wrong, she was the same person from her pics and she was nice enough but it is just troubling to spend 400 hundred on a woman that lied to me. In between rounds she was saying she had younger children but i think the younger children she was referring too were her grandkids, in all honesty. Women, why do you do it? Wont that just end up hurting your cash flow in the long run? Gents what are your opinions? Cant we come up with a service that checks for age and maybe picture accuracy as well?
i mean, there are clearly places in provider profiles to indicate age and photo accuracy. My question is this: you said her photos were fine and that she was definitely the same person? that wasnt the case though(you can be the same person and have inaccurate or outdated photos) then do a problem report on her profile (assuming she has one).
I can imagine the frustration,for sure. If it was that egregious a violation, perhaps it would have been best to leave. While its chivalrous to have stayed for your appointment, you could have easily told her that her photos don't depict her accurately, slipped her an optional amount of cash, and left.
If her practices are truly deceiving in nature, then staying only reinforces bad business practices.
I stayed and paid because she has my personal information. Yes, maybe from your perspective it would be best to just leave but i kinda felt she had something over me, if you know what i am saying. She could have made a scene in the hotel too for all i knew and it is scary enough being in this illegal business. Try and look at it from my viewpoint and you might feel differently. There are some providers who are not stable and I didnt want to risk it. I just feel so taken. Why do girls do this? Why cant they just be satisfied how they look and go after the cleintele that like older women? I just dont get it.
That didn't seem to work? Or am I missing something else?
I’m not suggesting it’s right to do so. But, I’ve lost count of how many times I've seen someone say that no matter what age stated, he will automatically assume she’s 5, or even 10 yrs older.
Some women are going to be completely forthright about their age, knowing that some potential clients will pass her by because of her stated age, whether it’s accurate, or not. And some are going cave to the pressure to shave time of their age; even if they *are* a super hot 30-40-50 yr old.
The better question for you to be asking is: Why is this info not in her reviews? That’s one of the reasons reviews exist; Is she who she says she is? Are her pics accurate?
Staying because she knows your name, or you have this idea that there are providers who are not stable, or you’re afraid she will make a scene in the hotel is….well…silly. A provider with a history of positive reviews is someone who is invested in her business. And, she has no interest in drawing attention to herself in a hotel by making a scene over a client who’s decided to leave, or doing something nefarious with your info.
Can this be guaranteed 100%. Of course not. But, what’s the point of having a review system if you’re not going to use the review system to screen for bad behavior, before you see her? And, if you do use the review system to screen for bad behavior, you’re significantly less likely to experience it.
And, if/when you do run across it: Leave. Or, if you do stay, utilize the review system to share info so someone else doesn’t have the same experience. It won’t take more than a couple of reviews saying she’s 10+ yrs older than advertised to stop that nonsense.
Staying and paying in this kind of situation only serves to allow her to continue doing this. It does a genuine disservice to honest providers, and clients.
I dont know your situation hotplants. Maybe you have no worries and have nothing to lose. Her having my personal info is very intimidating. Maybe she wont go crazy in a hallway of a hotel but maybe she will black list me? Or contact me at work to get the money I stiffed her on if I just walk out? I dont know your situation so please dont pretend you know mine!!!
If you don't actually want answers---don't ask.
And, if providing your personal info makes you this paranoid, don't give it. Pretty simple.
You called actions I took for self preservation "silly." Those "silly" things I did or didnt do possibly kept me out of a very bad situation. Yes, I asked for answers NOT to be demeaned. Pretty simple. I guess you didnt get that memo?
You can do a search and come-up with this same scenario, over and over.
A provider is misrepresenting her age….he knew it as soon as she opened the door. He followed through anyway because…….she has his personal info and he starts thinking she could BM him, or maybe she’ll call his office and harass him, or he was afraid she would make scene, or…… [fill in the blank].
Then he comes here afterwards and says: whaaaaa…..
You want advice? Worry about whether she might be untrustworthy or unstable before you book with her. There is tons of info available for you to use. Don’t give your personal information to a complete stranger on the internet unless you have EVERY reason, based on reviews from her other clients, that she is trustworthy, has a solid history of professionalism, she is who she says she is, and that SHE also has a personal business interest to protect.
The fact that you didn't know she's 10+ yrs older than what she's advertising is on the guys who've seen her before, and not said anything.
The fact that you put yourself in a situation you were afraid to walk away from is entirely on you. See...now that's judgement
And I did do a search here. Of YOUR handle. And lo and behold, what do I find, but YOU getting involved in petty ass arguments with SO many members here. Time after time after time. I get you now hotplants. You are a provocateur, a shit starter. That's your gig, your board persona. Your posts are constantly negative and condescending to other posters. Thanks for the advice about searching. Its amazing what one finds. Now go find another poster to start shit with. With your track record of finding them, you wont have any problem.
I see thats what some do here when they are called out for what they really are. ;
"Negative posts?" And you post about gals lying about their ages? Who's the shit stirrer?
an asshole just like me for that matter.
I think I have said the EXACT same fucking thing a hundred fucking times on this and several other boards everytime this topic comes up.
If a guy can't stand up to a BSC ROB hooker, don't come whining to the rest of us. Grow a set of balls and out the bitch. Or if you are too big a pussy to do so, STFU.
Hey HP, how am I doing so far??? lol
The fact of the matter is, rewarding bad behavior is contributing to the problem, everytime a guy gives a hooker that has deceived him his hard earned money, he is simply reinforcing to her that she should continue doing what she is doing.
I keep losing track of whether I'm a MHB, or an asshole.
Maybe I should go with MHAB------and just go ahead and throw in cunty for good measure. What the hell?
And, *I'm* sensitive? fucking hell...
If he getz all defensive and can't take it, it ain't on U. And hoo carez about a BL? Worse shit haz happend. The dood should go to a Meat & Greek or get some frendz for BC info. O, and stop wining.
Look I got black mailed because I wrote what I thought was a positive review of a lady and shared it with her to make sure I got the profile right I sent it to her. Because I gave her an 8/8 she threatened my wife. I no longer share my handle because of that. On this very board I seen a BSC provider try to get a guy banned over a 7/7. Sorry but I get why a married guy, or a guy who's livelihood depends on discretion will not risk it. I am nuke proof but, most guys here aren't. And it isn't the Backpage ladies that go BSC over reviews, it is the ones that look professional. They have more to loose.
I didnt think my posts/reasoning needed any more explanation but obviously one person here doesnt get it. Thank you for sharing your experiences!
I think it's more fair to say that hardly any guy is 'nuke proof'. I'm not 'nuke proof'. If he doesn't want to give his personal info, he doesn't have to. He definitely should not be if its going to make him this paranoid. There are other options. He may have to forego seeing a provider who insists on it. I'm sure he'll live.
But, also no reason to always assume the worst either. There are 1,152,305 reviews on this site, alone. Good guess is there were are a lot fewer reviews written than there were actual sessions. I'm not even much of a betting woman, but I'll bet that a very, very small number of those sessions ended in a blackmail attempt. Does it happen? Sure. As I said, no way to guarantee anything 100%.
But you can certainly lower the odds by utilizing reviews; to screen ahead and report afterwards, if there is a problem. And, in this case, unless he is the very first guy to see her, the other guys who did see her, didn't bother to mention the age discrepancy.
So, where is the problem again
but if I wasn't I doubt seriously that I would give up my real information.
I feel like I've said that before 
but in all seriousness, it's the guys too chicken to stand up to a "lying cheating ho" and then come on the boards to whine about it that are every bit as much to blame as the ROB's themselves.
It happens all too often that a woman will overstate her age by a decade or more, yet STILL get positive reviews from a couple of dozen guys. Guys that know damn well she is lying, but are too fucking cowardly to say so. This also goes for weight, appearance, etc. Guys either have no standards, are blind, or are just plain chickenshit and don't want to "make waves"
So yes, I do get what you are saying, and for the record I do mainly agree with you.
and write an honest review of a poor experience---because they're afraid of some kind of retaliation? I have no answer for that. Other than---make safer choices. Or grow a pair.
I'm a safe driver in my car. I know I could get T-Boned any day of the week. I still drive. I also have front and side airbags, wear my seat-belt, and come to full stops at stop lights. If I'm on 2 wheels, my cautionary defensive driving and awareness increases 100-fold.
*Still no guarantee I'm not gonna end-up like road toast* But I do take every precaution possible. And, if I do hit the ground----it's not like I didn't know what I signed-up for.
You know the guys *most likely* to be splattered on the road, and not getting up? The ones driving like complete idiots. I see them all the time. Wheelies on the highway. 70 mpr in shorts and a t-shirt. It's all good until you fall down. And assuming they're alive afterwards, they're laying in a hospital bed wishing they'd listen to that good advice about wearing some protective gear.
The bitching and whining and moaning about how hookers are BSC, and they will BM you, ROB you, lie about their age.... and blah and blah and blah and blah.....as if this is the norm, as opposed to the exception....and wondering how this happened to them?
deaf ears.
Who knu? An other peace uv the puzzle! Don't worry, doll, UR secret iz safe with Uss!
In fact I will go one step further and say, no one should do something if he/she can't live with it becoming known. But he did.
As long as he isn't writing fake reviews I don't see the issue with him not reviewing. Should he be whining about what he is not willing to fix? No, but I get his point.
I didn't out the provider who threatened to out my wife. Should I have, yes. But I didn't. I killed the review.
Sometimes doing the ideal thing is tough. Sometimes people don't do the smart things and end up in a mess. I been there and I refuse to bad mouth those who have to bite there tough because of it as long as they aren't writing bogus reviews. Sadly this site is full of them too.
If the profile says 41-45 and I think she's over 60 will the profile be changed on my say-so? It's not like I saw her ID, and her ad at the time said 39. It's since been changed to 41, I guess to match the TER profile but of course stay at the low end of the range. In the massively airbrushed pictures she looks great for "41." Infuriating.
There is never going to be a way to verify our ages, or our photos, it's just not going to happen. But that's why you read reviews and etc., to make sure you're more likely to get what you desire. A lady continuously lying about age and likeness is going to have those comments in her reviews.
I very much dislike when a provider lies about her age. Because a hot 50 year old is a hot 50 year old. Own it. Embrace it. One of the most magnetic and charming providers I have ever had the pleasure of meeting is 48. She doesn't lie about it, and that's HOT, and so is she!
But I have another provider friend that subtracts 10 years from her age in advertisements. She said she feels like if she's honest men will think her pictures are fake (she looks damn good at her true she), and she'll get passed by. She's probably right though, isn't she??? No matter how good she is at what she does or how good she looks some will see that number and miss out on a great time.
I didn't start in this until I was 36. I too worried at first, looking like a 20-some, if announcing my real age would be a turn off. But I'm brutally honest and knew I did not want to misrepresent myself in anyway. I find that I have probably done better (now 37), than I would've done at this 10 years ago.
And BTW... some advertising venues will do picture verify. Mine are all authenticated on those sites. But it's more for fake photos, not likeness. Another reason I'm having a video made this summer. Can't fake a video...it captures the real me unlike any still photo ever will.
I so agree! Some ladies have a reverse issue in that they look 10-15 years younger than their age and it would be such a loss to the lady and gent if the were to to judge her based on her age alone. Authenticating pics on sites that offer that service is a great idea, I also try to attend tons of Meet and Greets when I can to let clients have a taste of who I am in person.
I also, like you have a desire to roll out with a short and simple video clip this year to let potential clients see my natural body form and body language to get a deeper sense of me. I love that with advancement in technology fake providers get outed quickly and those who present themselves authentically can really market themselves in a genuine way.
--Sitara
I have a VERY young look in person. Face and body. So does my best friend who is Asian. In photos, I look somewhat mature but I had a new client recently ask for my ID just to double check that I was of age. It was kindof ridiculous, but a good problem to have!
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She is lying to her guys. And your reasoning sounds a bit weak defending her. For example, if i ask for a steak at a place and they conceal it and it is really turkey, yeah i might miss out on a great turkey dinner but i wanted steak! I am glad you are honest with your age though. I dont know how common or uncommon that is. Ladies just tell us your real age like Ms. Kole. You want to be told the truth about us right? Shouldnt it go both ways?
Do you know my friend Moses?
Just because she lies to her clients won't make me de-friend her. C'mon! I know you're pissed and I get it, but settle down a bit. And I never defended her. I don't agree with it, as I don't do it, but you specifically asked why a woman would do it and I told you why. Nothing more, nothing less.
I too, screen fairly elaborately, so I know everything about a friend before I meet him and if a man decided to leave because I was not as he desired, I would never make a scene. I probably have dates lined up afterwards and no way would I draw attention to myself and get myself outed in public or thrown out of my incall? I've never had anyone walk out on me, but I've talked to plenty of guys that have been disappointed and walked out on girls and none of them ever reported anyone getting hostile. The way she looked at it she got some nominal amount to do nothing. No harm, no foul. Why would she get so vindictive over it? I don't know anyone that would. You didn't rob or rape her, you just didn't like her. I can almost bet she could've cared less.
What is she going to blacklist you for? Not liking her? Relax, sweetheart, it wouldn't have been that bad. Next time, read reviews thoroughly and if you're not happy, leave. Remember, it works two ways. She would've rather you left than stayed and give her a shitty review, I promise.
Anybody that intentionally defrauded that many people would not be a "friend" of mine. Maybe we just have two very different value systems? Seems so but you get to make the call as to who your friends are and I get to make the call for me. Thanks for responding.
I suppose you've never lied to anyone, ever, about anything? None of your friends lie either, I suppose. Get a grip. She's not "defrauding" anyone.
Definition of defraud: to deprive of a right, money, or property by fraud.
She's not depriving anyone of any rights or property. You don't have the right to screw her and she's not your property. No one is out money either, as they can leave (as you should have) if they don't like her. Again, I don't agree with it, but it's not a reason for me to be judgemental and snub my nose up at her.
You asked why women do it and I told you, it was that simple and now I have questionable values because I'm friends with a person that lies about her age??? Hello, we are on a board for hookers and johns so I think the whole idea of "values", even for you Mr. Perfect, went out the window awhile ago. You're getting a bit carried away.
You're far too upset over one bad experience. What should I do when a gentleman asserts himself as "exceptionally good-looking" on his screening form but shows up anything but? Charge him double??? Question his values on vision or the ability to use a mirror
While I do agree reviews here are a starting point to see what a provider's age range is.
But it might not always be accurate if she does not keep her profile here updated.
If you have a question or wonder if indeed the pics are a true representation why not ask some of the guys who have reviewed her in the past?Of course you are getting another guy's opinion on if the lady looked like her pics or if the pics were outdated.There is google images and tineye but guys use those to make sure the pictures are not stolen and are indeed of the provider they are interested in seeing.But it does not mean those programs to check for age or how old the pictures are.
Sometimes in a review it is mentioned that pics are outdated or old but guys still see those ladies so maybe for those certain guys it is not a big deal?
This is one of the main reasons I like to do one to two photo shoots a year not that anything has changed as far as body wise but just to keep things fresh.
Has to be a disappointment when you are set on seeing someone and the pictures are many years old and things have changed in that time.
Getting all women to tell the truth about their age is not going to happen so I would suggest checking with the reviewers if no reviews then I guess TOFTT.
Pics were not accurate that was the problem. I mean I could tell it was the same person but from like 12, 13, 14 years ago? I just wish women could be more honest.
Got it. Then you just got ripped off. False advertising is a blatant rip off. I think , as you stated you're learning , the lesson is if they are advertising they are older, the odds are higher they MIGHT be lying about how old that is...and it's likely higher than they say.
Are you from there or unlucky enough to have booked a gal from there that fits your description?
And good luck with that ID idea for the gals. If they show up and are decades older looking than their hooker age just tell them NO!
But it seems like that's something that reviews should be safeguarding against.
I met a chick today who's 40 and looks closer to my age. If she were to advertise herself as 25-30, I'd bet you most guys would be none the wiser. That said, it sounds like the lady you met didn't have such good genes, in which case yeah, that's misrepresentation.
I have a question, though: are you going to mention the age discrepancy in a review? If not, you can't really complain.
Although Tobi has some accurate and considerable points, a good check list would be does she look exceptional or well for her age and does she have an equal concomitant in the performance department. If she meets the requirement in the aforementioned, then it should be a go. Granted not everyone is going to be Julia Ann but if their looks belie their age then there is no need to raise suspicion.
I havent decided whether or not yet to write reviews. I am understanding, from posts like scoed's, that there may be significant downside risk in doing so. I started in this hobby to have fun not to be threatened in any way or feel intimidated by it. I have met the most wonderful ladies and while every experience hasnt been great, I havent come across someone this flagrantly misrepresenting themselves.
So let me see if I got this right. You come on her and rant against her bad biz practice and you may or may not review her? Oh wait. She has your personal info. My bad. Damn you're sharp.
but I wonder how effectively that works, or ever can work. I went on one appointment with someone age "39" who is at least 20 years older, maybe 25 and looks it, and in not one of pages of reviews was this discrepancy mentioned. Well it is now. So I wonder how often there is a gentlemanly tendency to not mention the taboo subject of a lady's age. I consider myself a gentleman but lying and then airbrushing the shit out of pictures to support the lie is where my chivalry ends.
I met a chick today who's 40 and looks closer to my age. If she were to advertise herself as 25-30, I'd bet you most guys would be none the wiser. That said, it sounds like the lady you met didn't have such good genes, in which case yeah, that's misrepresentation.
I have a question, though: are you going to mention the age discrepancy in a review? If not, you can't really complain.
Would you have scheduled with her if you knew her real age? Probably not. That's why they do it. At a certain point, if they have been doing this....and getting away with it, so to speak, they will continue to do it. Most guys will react like you did. Feel ripped off but go through with the whole process anyway.
If you're lucky, she's great anyway....and you're able to get beyond how old she is or what she looks like, if it's older than you hoped. If she looks like her pictures on her website and you were satisfied with those, then I don't know where you're coming from. Who cares how old she is? It's just a number. Hot is hot, regardless of her age
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...or you would have spotted the signs. I'll never understand you guys who whine about this. I don't think it is that difficult to determine a ladies ballpark age. I've not been surprised yet, and if I was, I would have graciously excused myself.
If the pictures were as outdated as you suggest, surely it would have surfaced in her reviews. I suggest you PM a few of her latest reviewers in the future if you want to make sure.
BTW... I don't believe this actually happened... I think you are just trolling. Just sayin'
And not just once. Maybe Hawkeye is embellishing somewhat, or even trolling...but make no mistake this happens frequently.
There are plenty of P4P women who create multiple aliases and post on multiple malls all for the purpose of trying to fool men into seeing something they think is the real deal. And as Hawkeye has expressed (along with other posters here), many men never tell the truth in a review about the age issues.
I do agree that it's not all that hard to ascertain a woman's age even from photoshopped pictures. There are women here that have veins popping out of their arms and necks and still try and claim to be 35 or so. It's painfully obvious that some of these women are near 60 given these conditions.
Maybe Hawkeye will write a review on this woman? He could do so under an alias if he gets some VIP and expose this woman for the fraud she must be.
But i have read that there is downside to writing reviews? I hear women will pm or emial you and threaten if it is a grade they do not like? I am just not sure I need that hassle but i did not know you could write a review anonymously like you say with an alias. Will the alias show that I have reviews and that I reviewed this woman? Its seems like there are many crazy women in this business by reading all the stories on here and other boards. I just want to protect myself as best I can from them but I am sure they are not the majority, thank goodness.
Some of these broads must think we're blind not to see the signs of their shady tactics!
You were afraid to walk away, and now you're afraid to write a negative review? Dude, get your testosterone levels checked.
Wtf is wrong with you?
New handle cumz on the board an he:
1) Wines.
2) Has gate idea to improve site.
3) Is fulla testo-steroni.
4) Gets advise and don't like it so he wines sum more.
5) Duzn't get it an so he argyoos.
6) Ansers every poste he duzn't like, creatin drama.
Sound familiar?
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1) Wines.
2) Has gate idea to improve site.
3) Is fulla testo-steroni.
4) Gets advise and don't like it so he wines sum more.
5) Duzn't get it an so he argyoos.
6) Ansers every poste he duzn't like, creatin drama.
Sound familiar?
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But I would be pretty pissed that she lied to me and didn't look anything like her photos if it was really obvious.
But here is the thing, I might doubt myself, and think maybe it was just me, that perhaps she had flattering angles, etc., that hid her age. I'd hate to be a dick and insult a lady by expressing my disappointment UNLESS I WAS 100% SURE that I was correct that it was her representation that was wrong, and not my perception.
So this is a good reason why the more angles and the more skin the better in the photos. And at least a partial or blurry face shot. And your post is yet another cautionary tale for us all to validate with others that the photos are accurate and to back-channel these things if not clear from reviews.
Sorry you had a shitty experience. Live and learn.
If you like mature women ask them if they smoke, do drugs or drink.
If they answer say yes then be sure they will look older than 35 years old despite the fact they might have 35 years old for real.