One time it was 2 grand. Never got a penny back. Another time recent lay, 5 grand. Have only received 400 bucks an am not expecting much more back. Never again to a friend. An you want to loan money to someone from years ago an expect to get it back? You can do it but you won't be seeing it again.
A provider that I met one time in 2008 recently contacted me for a loan.
The provider has been retired for several years. She was in a relationship but was (literally) dumped by the man. She wants back in the industry but needs start up money for advertising and an Internet site.
She offered to supply me a promissory note. I do not know her real name. Thus, it is most likely not worth securing.
I would have no problem purchasing enough of her service in order to fulfill the loan. However, we are separated by half a continent.
Providers: How would you start over if you were faced with a similar situation?
Hobbyists: Would you take a chance on this situation?
Note: One of my largest dilemmas pertains to the legal consequences of this arrangement. Promotion of prostitution across state lines is a felony.
You met some woman 6-7 years ago ONE time. And she quit the biz and yet still has your email information, perhaps all of your other personal information as well.
A promissory note? That'll be helpful LOL
If you still want to get involved, can you please send me $ 1,000 to my PayPal account so I can take some of the other Senators out for a nice lunch and laugh at your story?
I promise my colleagues and I will discuss the felony issue as well.
Jerk?
Guy comes to GD with "girl I met once 7 years ago has sob story and wants loan, will secure said loan with fake identity."
If there is useful information to share beyond "no" I don't know what it is...would "fuck no" make you feel better? Sometimes less really is more.
I did not believe I would receive a lot of useful information from hobbyists.
The story is pretty much a softball for hobbyists to hit out of the park.
However, if her story is real, perhaps a provider (or two) can share some information on how they would start over if faced in a similar situation
you met one time 7 years ago and she reaches out to you in a crisis? Why? Did you fall for a sob story in 2008? Believe me I'm not trying to be a dick but your gut must be telling you this stinks!
Happy now Hound? 
A feeling I cannot explain. Confused? Annoyed?
Thats how I feel. I think most of you are stupid....
There’s nothing even remotely illegal in loaning money to a friend on another continent.
But, is she REALLY your friend? Have you and she maintained contact since 2008? Shared personal ups-downs in life, X-changed holiday cards?
There’s nothing wrong with doing a solid for someone in a bad spot. I try to when I can. I’m sure we all hope we have someone in our lives that would do this for us, if we needed it. But, if she’s just now contacting you, after 7 yrs, looking for money, this is not a friend.
As long as you’re prepared to lose every $ you loan her, go for it…. if you really want to. It's your money.
How would providers start over in a similar situation? The same way anyone else would start over. Providers are no different than anyone else. If you were in a bad spot would you cold call someone you met once (once?) 7 yrs ago, and ask for money?
Im sure he is the only one she called if this is real. WTF! is anyone going to ask why she has his # after 7 years? Something is wrong here and it just does not add up. The only possible answer that makes any sense is that he offered to "help" her years ago and now she's calling in the offer.
But, is she REALLY your friend? Have you and she maintained contact since 2008? Shared personal ups-downs in life, X-changed holiday cards?
There’s nothing wrong with doing a solid for someone in a bad spot. I try to when I can. I’m sure we all hope we have someone in our lives that would do this for us, if we needed it. But, if she’s just now contacting you, after 7 yrs, looking for money, this is not a friend.
As long as you’re prepared to lose every $ you loan her, go for it…. if you really want to. It's your money.
How would providers start over in a similar situation? The same way anyone else would start over. Providers are no different than anyone else. If you were in a bad spot would you cold call someone you met once (once?) 7 yrs ago, and ask for money?
One of the reasons I am so flakey is to prevent such a thing.
What you say is a lie. Maybe not for you.. But for most?
What you say is shit.
I'm not saying I think there's anything wrong with loaning someone money---provider, or not.
Circumstances depending, I would....hell, I have. But, it's just common sense to exercise healthy caution if someone you met once, and you don't even know them well enough to be on a 'real' first name basis, pops up after 7 yrs asking for money.
Call me crazy, but I find this scenario sketchy. Ask the OP for her contact info---maybe you can send her some money? You know her about as well as he does....lol..
It wasn't 7 years but I emailed some of my former favorites and told them I'm re-entering the business. Most of them saw me. They allowed me to make enough money to get a new website, pics, ads. After that, I was good to go.
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Im sorry. I get a little domineering when I play with girls.. You were acting like such a pussy, I thought you were a girl.
I know he is off in Costa Rica and left the liquor cabinet unlocked, don't make me call him on you.
Now sober your ass up and stop talking stupid!!!
...made quite an impression on her...as a sucker!
How do you even know that the story of being dumped is true? She could have contacted 100 other guys with the same sob story.
BTW, in most jurisdictions, promoting prostitution is a felony whether or not state lines are crossed.
Cher has a message for you...
This hooker I was seeing regularly last year quit the biz because she found a WK that swept her off her feet. Unfortunately, he got tired of her BS and decided to save a younger better looking hooker. Now she is trying to line me up for a payday. Should I be a sucker and go for it? Maybe she called me because we had something real
He's pretty adamant with his opinion...
She is doing exactly what she should be; contacting former customers and trying to drum up business. Former clients (regardless of service business) are a much more fertile field to plow than new customers. It wouldn't surprise me if her whole little black book got a similar email. Odds are that some of those customers live where she does now - or might travel through.
She knows (or should) that you aren't going to loan her money. It's just a hell of lot less crass than just asking you to fuck her for money. And, of course, there is always the possibility that someone will actually send her the money
Have been with many providers .. some ATFs/regulars and I know them by real name (as in Friends on Facebook with me creating a alias FB page just for them). If you don't know their real name, just give her the money - not a loan, because she won't be returning that loan.
After 6 years, she still had your contact info???
That would be a BIG no for me. This has ten shades of fucked up written on it.
The legal thing alone should turn your feet toward home.
Maybe just offer to start her off with a nice long session so she can earn her start-up
Advertising on a site like TER costs... how much?
Building a web site with something like Wix (used by many providers) costs... how much?
Since she's asked you for what amounts to a business loan to fund a start-up business, have you asked to see her business plan so you can determine if you are making a wise investment?
To loan another person money unless you can part with it and know you will never get it back.
You saw the lady one time seven years ago and she is reaching out to you about a loan?
Why would she even still have your info from seven years ago that is what I would want to know?
If I was a provider just starting out and had no money I would google in my city escort ad sites that are free to post on.I would start there.
Also she does not need a website immediately sure it will help.
But she could do that later or she could use one of the free escort website templates until she can pay for her own domain and a more custom website.That is the advice I would offer to her instead of thinking about loaning a person I haven't seen in seven years money.No sir.
There is an experienced, professional opinion.
You saw the lady one time seven years ago and she is reaching out to you about a loan?
Why would she even still have your info from seven years ago that is what I would want to know?
If I was a provider just starting out and had no money I would google in my city escort ad sites that are free to post on.I would start there.
Also she does not need a website immediately sure it will help.
But she could do that later or she could use one of the free escort website templates until she can pay for her own domain and a more custom website.That is the advice I would offer to her instead of thinking about loaning a person I haven't seen in seven years money.No sir.
I was thinking the same why would she keep your information after all of this time?
So I would not do it either and would ask her to look somewhere else for help.
Just to many bad things that can happen if you gave her the money.
You saw the lady one time seven years ago and she is reaching out to you about a loan?
Why would she even still have your info from seven years ago that is what I would want to know?
If I was a provider just starting out and had no money I would google in my city escort ad sites that are free to post on.I would start there.
Also she does not need a website immediately sure it will help.
But she could do that later or she could use one of the free escort website templates until she can pay for her own domain and a more custom website.That is the advice I would offer to her instead of thinking about loaning a person I haven't seen in seven years money.No sir.
Will that note be written in lipstick or crayon?
Why did you respond if you did.
Why do you have the same email address. I thought it was common to change it every so often.
I helped a provider once... Expected friendship in return. I was lonely, and confused....
Guess what happened next?
Ummmm you're still lonely and confused, but got married?
Guess what happened next?
but most of us are stupid.
As it is, I'll settle for the modest rewards that come from not being a complete dupe.
There are plenty of free website builders and TER is one of the places she can advertise for free . The girl needs to figure out how to build a business based on providing a damned good service not hitting you up for cash .
I can't tell you what to do one way or the other, just know that most loans are never paid back.
I have no idea what the costs are to 'launch' an escort practice. The cost doesn't seem to
be your primary concern
I would not presume to comment on this as a good or bad idea.
You said that you would be willing to exchange
the money for sessions except for the distance. Why not schedule a long weekend and pay her rate for that ? Then the money given is simply payment for services that she provides and you choos
You expect us to believe a woman you met 7 years ago one time would remember your number. Of all the people she's met in that time she called you after just one encounter. Bull
Are you sure this is true. I could be a scam, and her email could have been hacked.
If verified, and you have seen her before, it is ovbious you know her. Why not? She wont be coming back to your area will she???
HH
One time it was 2 grand. Never got a penny back. Another time recent lay, 5 grand. Have only received 400 bucks an am not expecting much more back. Never again to a friend. An you want to loan money to someone from years ago an expect to get it back? You can do it but you won't be seeing it again.
Arriving late to this thread, but I will answer your question anyway because I like to hear myself type. LOL.
I recently returned to the scene after absenting myself for over 5 years, and got started on a small budget so I do know how she can do this.
If I had absolutely no money, none, but at least had some fuel in my car I would get a free website and place a few free ads for outcall only. I know some ladies place "personal ads" on sites intended for dating/hook-ups/affairs and SugarDaddy/SugarBaby arrangements as well..... which might be a better way to go if she doesn't have transportation. Guys on dating/hook-up sites might be more inclined to come pick her up and even get a room themselves.
She could also post that she is seeking to team up with another lady, to possibly share advertising costs and/or an incall location.
The site I have now was free and super-simple to set up. In fact, I had it up with my pics, rates and TER badge/banner in about 15-20 minutes. It's from EscortDesign.
At first, all I had were a few not-so-great selfies but that was enough to get some dates booked. I had a few of those gentlemen offer to take new pics for me too, so it is not necessary to spend any cash on that at all.
Once she has a little cash from a few dates, it is very important she re-invest some of that money into her business for paid ads and/or an incall. It's true: you have to spend money to make money!
Clearly, getting in touch with past clients is an idea that has already occurred to her so I'd be surprised if absolutely none of those men were willing to schedule some P4P time with her.
So my advice may no longer be relevant but since I think it's very kind of you to try to help her out this way, here it is is:
Step 1: Create free website with pics & TER link.
Step 2: Place free ad on TER local Ad Board and any other FREE ad or profile listing site she can find.
Step 3: Go get that money, honey!!!
Step 4: Invest some of that initial cash where it will have the most impact: ads & location options.
Don't trust sweet talkers because they can be dangerous.
They will say they care about you, compliment you just to take your money then through you in the trash.