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I think yours is a reasonable question
russbbj 89 Reviews 775 reads
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If I were interacting with you on a somewhat regular basis, I might expect it.

On the flip side, I have been interacting with someone that I will be seeing on a future date and she is engaging in and participating in an email exchange. Nothing sexy, just a glimpse of each other's personalities. She has ensured a connection between us by doing so, and I'm quite confident I will be a regular client.  

Again, I think yours is a reasonable approach, especially if he is expecting sexy talk, text etc., but if you're simply emailing back and forth a few times to "get to know one another" then I feel your doing your business well in marketing as this woman is doing with me. I'm hooked with her, and we haven't had a date together, and I'm confident I'll be a regular client. I know from reading her website that she doesn't have many clients and she likes to connect with the ones she does have, this makes perfect sense for her too. I think a lot of ladies would rather have a small number of reliable clients than to have many "who knows until he arrives clients".

I find it difficult at times interacting with ladies I either have met or will meet soon. I like to get that small glimpse of "who" they are, without imposing on their time too much. Some ladies make it quite clear that it's contact only for date, others like the lady I mentioned above are actively seeking a little connection. It's a fine line, that I'm still learning.

I'll say this though, if it were me that you were interacting with I'd want you to tell me if I'm crossing any boundaries or imposing on you. The very last thing I would want is to show up at our date and have you think I've been taking advantage of your kindness or your time. We have 2 or 3 hours together, I want your undivided, total engagement during our time together, so if I'm pissing you off to any extent then I'm effectively reducing your undivided, total engagement before we've even met and I assure you this is not what I want. I've had a few ladies give me their personal phone and email, I feel that doing so is an awesome privilege and I treat it as such and do not reach out to them other than for date info. Some have responded playfully and it's appreciated but I'm not going to take advantage of that.

My $.02

Hi A

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Vagazzle2757 reads

I notice that a lot of single guys very much enjoy the pre-date build up.  Ex: telephone calls, sexy texts, sexy emails, etc.

While I think it's fun to flirt a bit before meeting, some guys really want it throughout the day and night, and if their appointment is still weeks away, it begins to intrude into my time with others and also my personal life.

So, my question is:  Would you be willing to pay for a flirtation package?   Phone sex, sexting, sexy penpal.  It would be a very reasonable rate, maybe charged weekly, and that way I could be compensated - keeping the morale high until our appointment.

Would you be willing to pay for this, and do you think it's a good idea?

Serious replies, please

GaGambler894 reads

considering so many of those guys already getting this "service" for free, I don't know how many would be willing to pay for it. Not to mention I am sure the guys who are most interested in this, do it instead of making the appointment rather than doing it as part of the appointment, as I am sure you are already quite painfully aware.

As for me personally? NO, I have zero desire to pay a woman to flirt with me on line, so the amount I would be willing to pay for such a service would also be zero. My idea of a "build up" would be a thirty minute drive to see the woman I just booked 45 minutes ago. I rarely book any further than one day in advance and I am one of those guys who buys the steak, not the sizzle. I do concede however that it's not me that you would be marketing to, but you did mention single, and I am quite single TYVM. lol

GaGambler848 reads

and the same reason I think you might have trouble monetizing it.

Why a guy would waste a hookers time, simply to cancel at the last minute is beyond me. If he wants jerk off material, the web is full of it for free, and without wasting the time of some woman trying to make a living.

Yes, I understand your predicament, but other than being a "mercenary bitch" that jealously guards her time, I really don't see any way to completely do away with this.

Just out of curiosity, do you really find that single guys do this more often than married guys? At least married guys have an excuse for being time wasting losers, single guys have no excuse for not being able to find someone else to keep them company without bothering hookers to "flirt with them"

Vagazzle782 reads

And yes single guys want to communicate more than married guys.  Not that ALL single men want it (some never care to speak with me before or after the session for that matter) but most married men are trying to be discreet.  Single guys don't have to be

One of the more flirty emailers I had NSNC'd on me. Go figure.

Posted By: Vagazzle

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If I were interacting with you on a somewhat regular basis, I might expect it.

On the flip side, I have been interacting with someone that I will be seeing on a future date and she is engaging in and participating in an email exchange. Nothing sexy, just a glimpse of each other's personalities. She has ensured a connection between us by doing so, and I'm quite confident I will be a regular client.  

Again, I think yours is a reasonable approach, especially if he is expecting sexy talk, text etc., but if you're simply emailing back and forth a few times to "get to know one another" then I feel your doing your business well in marketing as this woman is doing with me. I'm hooked with her, and we haven't had a date together, and I'm confident I'll be a regular client. I know from reading her website that she doesn't have many clients and she likes to connect with the ones she does have, this makes perfect sense for her too. I think a lot of ladies would rather have a small number of reliable clients than to have many "who knows until he arrives clients".

I find it difficult at times interacting with ladies I either have met or will meet soon. I like to get that small glimpse of "who" they are, without imposing on their time too much. Some ladies make it quite clear that it's contact only for date, others like the lady I mentioned above are actively seeking a little connection. It's a fine line, that I'm still learning.

I'll say this though, if it were me that you were interacting with I'd want you to tell me if I'm crossing any boundaries or imposing on you. The very last thing I would want is to show up at our date and have you think I've been taking advantage of your kindness or your time. We have 2 or 3 hours together, I want your undivided, total engagement during our time together, so if I'm pissing you off to any extent then I'm effectively reducing your undivided, total engagement before we've even met and I assure you this is not what I want. I've had a few ladies give me their personal phone and email, I feel that doing so is an awesome privilege and I treat it as such and do not reach out to them other than for date info. Some have responded playfully and it's appreciated but I'm not going to take advantage of that.

My $.02

Hi A

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bonordonor656 reads

bbbj when you posted this? I'm guessing "yes" and an orgasm got in the way of a coherent post. Of course, this only made sense prior to your edit! lol

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TOCnex000745 reads

To me, part of the thrill is trying to get the other person to like you without money.  If I know the girl is flirting back because of money, it's just not fun at all.  I don't flirt with providers prior to the meeting because I think it wastes her time and it's not fair.  I also don't want to have too much emotional attachment to the providers since I do have a family and I don't want get attached just so I can break up after.  Too emotional also creates stalkers.  I don't suggest these services.  Hard to get paid and for safety reason.

I guess those 1-900 sex lines are still around in some fashion.  That's all you're trying to sell here.

If you can get some poor lonely guy to pay you anything for this service, go for it.

It's pathetic to see some of these posts realizing just how hollow this shit is.

Fortunately at my age I will forget what I wrote in a matter of minutes.

Do you take Bitcoins?

I agree with russbbj's post.

While I don't really expect flirtation in communications, a little personality and humor do go a long way - and can really add to the anticipation.  Also, while this hobby is about money - the nice thing about the envelope drop is that it is just a single discrete act (and usually discreet too!) and that ends the biz part, so the fun and illusion can continue.  Paying for flirtatious communication has more the feel of upselling or an a la carte menu, adding another "transactional" component - just something that wouldn't appeal to me in any way.

Another huge potential problem with this would be the expectation level.  If guys are PAYING for something, then they are going to have expectations.  And some guys undoubtably would not feel like they are getting enough attention for what they paid.  And unlike under usual circumstances, it won't be as simple as just ending communication with a guy who is wanting to talk and email too much - it would be more complicated because in fact he DID PAY for the service.  So, even though a guy might be a pain in the butt, you'd have to think carefully before cutting him off, because he could complain to others that you didn't live up to your end and make a fuss which could impact your reputation.

I can just imagine the reviews, "I would have rated her higher but I paid for spank mail and I waited the whole day the Tuesday before our appointment and nothing!"

I'd be lying if I said I didn't get a little rush when I see an email, text or PM from a provider but it's not that big a deal and I sure wouldn't pay for it. I also don't care much if one goes unanswered...I can just imagine the volume they're handling. I mention this because I've been told by more than one provider that not responding to flirty emails can result in some ugliness, which I absolutely do not get.

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I'd flirt with you anytime  Jstgttnstrtd...ooohhh am I doing it now?  
To answer, I don't find it that intrusive once I have a connection with a guy, but if we haven't met yet, all I've determined is that you are "safe" as far as checking let's me know. Keep it to a minimum I suggest. Flirting after someone has made your head do the exorcism dance is way more fun and natural. Anything before feels contrived a tad...unless your initial correspondence was ridiculous good.  

It would be hard to charge for, as what accounts for it? One email? Three texts? four emails? Sometimes just say no. A lot of strange out there and if you haven't looked them in the eye, why give them attention that would A) satisfy them before meeting...Or B) Use the rope their slinging to hang yourself.

It's partially why my site is efficient yet vague... I don't need one to know everything about me or my fantasies beforehand. THAT is the exact pleasure one coughs up for. To be the amazing me I am (jokes welcome here), I need to be off grid often. Yoga, horseback riding, live music and netflix are just a few things that keep me from responding to said behavior, at least efficiently anyway.

A little entice never hurt but never ending pre discourse makes me wilt.  

Posted By: Jstgttnstrtd
I agree with russbbj's post.  
   
 While I don't really expect flirtation in communications, a little personality and humor do go a long way - and can really add to the anticipation.  Also, while this hobby is about money - the nice thing about the envelope drop is that it is just a single discrete act (and usually discreet too!) and that ends the biz part, so the fun and illusion can continue.  Paying for flirtatious communication has more the feel of upselling or an a la carte menu, adding another "transactional" component - just something that wouldn't appeal to me in any way.  
   
 Another huge potential problem with this would be the expectation level.  If guys are PAYING for something, then they are going to have expectations.  And some guys undoubtably would not feel like they are getting enough attention for what they paid.  And unlike under usual circumstances, it won't be as simple as just ending communication with a guy who is wanting to talk and email too much - it would be more complicated because in fact he DID PAY for the service.  So, even though a guy might be a pain in the butt, you'd have to think carefully before cutting him off, because he could complain to others that you didn't live up to your end and make a fuss which could impact your reputation.

a little woody every time you post - now I'm also going to have these sexy little daydreams whenever I hear someone mention horseback-riding or even Netflix!  Sometimes having a good imagination can really be a drag - but I guess there are worse things I could have rolling through my mind as I lay my head down and turn off my light than you riding through the mountains, looking vivacious and sexy as ever, holdin' on tight, mesmerizing with each bounce (here is where the slow motion replay really comes in handy)... Oh fuck, maybe if I turn off my light now, it will ALL come together in some strange lovely dream... I can see it... you in yoga pants doing your thing, as a Polka band serenades you (hey, you didn't say what KIND of live music, and it IS my dream...)... ahhhh...

Pleasant dreams to you too my sexy friend...
:o)

Vagazzle600 reads



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at "http://fakegirlfriend.co" (no "m" at end of addy.). It's just a texting service, I think.

No, I would never pay for something like that or a "flirtation pkg". I am neither single nor male, but I am a hobbyist and if it would be a hardsell to me (a woman) I can't imagine any guys wanting to partake of it. But who knows? There is a market for any and everything out there imaginable. If someone can find the demographic interested in something like that and pitch it properly, they could probably make some nice money off of it.

...along with other various non face-to-face services.  The only one that was worth it was phone sex, and adjuncts that went along with that because people were paying a set rate per minute, or a set rate per other service.  None of those services were in real-time, so there was no expectation of an immediate response.

When you get into the texting, those who purchase that time expect your complete attention for the set amount of time, and some can be really unrealistic about it.  You have to present super clear boundaries so that you don't get berated for not answering a text that you receive while you're in the shower, working out, or carrying on with your day.  

I didn't offer this service as part of a GFE experience, nor would I; the amount of time and energy that some would require would make the rate unrealistic compared to the perceived value of the service.  Not to mention there's the whole problem of chargebacks, depending on how you decide to get paid.  If you work through a third-party like niteflirt or numerous other sites, they take a percentage, but there's no risk of chargebacks.

I allow for texts or calls on my private cell after I have met with a guy, single or married. Some take me up on it some chose not to. It's an easier way for them to rebook as well, why be so formal with email if you've already seen my birthmark and I've tasted your cum? Lol! Only had one overly excited client make me question what I am doing, but better communication equals better sex. ALWAYS!!!

I stay in contact with favorites, but I am beyond the stage, I guess, where I need to stay in constant contact.  Then again...  :)

I would not participate in such a service as you suggested.

Like so much other, we overthink everything! The bottom line is very simple what ever works, we are just adults seeking what has been around since the beginning of time and relationships. These things always find a way to work or not!

Posted By: Vagazzle
I notice that a lot of single guys very much enjoy the pre-date build up.  Ex: telephone calls, sexy texts, sexy emails, etc.  
   
 While I think it's fun to flirt a bit before meeting, some guys really want it throughout the day and night, and if their appointment is still weeks away, it begins to intrude into my time with others and also my personal life.  
   
 So, my question is:  Would you be willing to pay for a flirtation package?   Phone sex, sexting, sexy penpal.  It would be a very reasonable rate, maybe charged weekly, and that way I could be compensated - keeping the morale high until our appointment.  
   
 Would you be willing to pay for this, and do you think it's a good idea?  
   
 Serious replies, please

although I couldn't tell you how many takers she got. Your takers would most likely be your longtime (lonely) regulars rather than new clients. Give it a shot, I see no downside to posting it as a supplementary offering.

EDIT: actually, there are some pitfalls. As you've experienced, there are guys who will angle for all the free time they can get from you. If you're charging, they're going to expect more in order to get their "money's worth."

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How are you going to get paid?   I think you need to maintain some distance...  a little mystery...   You can not be available to say text instantly without destroying your business.  Unless you want to change your business model to include phone sex or chat on a paid line??    

My suggestion would be a limit...  say one exchange per day during the week prior to a confirmed appointment.  Maybe 2 during the last 24 hours.  Further out than a week?  Maybe 2/week.   It is unreasonable to expect you to be their one & only.  This is not MATCH!

My ATF doesn't mind the occasional call or text out of the blue to see how she's doing or vent about something.  I probably do it once or twice a month, and it usually revolves around something like a holiday greeting, happy birthday, or happy "anniversary" LOL

Wouldn't pay for that...My regulars usually send me a pic or text now and then to stay in touch and it's nice, don't think I would want a steady diet of it....

I usually exchange a few emails just to be certain my information is current re. date, time of appointment, length of appointment, etc.

I can't deny. I was turned on!
She had this thing where she would call your work. Prentending to be someone related to your job...figure out a way to come over.. Fuck you in your office!  
Or wherever:) she was a master of disguise!
You. My friend are a exibonist. Good for you!!
Welcome.

Vagazzle589 reads

That sounds like fun!  Way too risky but fun nevertheless!

If I were looking for that? I want flattery to the max! And for everyone to know who I have to daunt on me. To some people it's flattery. I call it embarrassing.  
My definition of being a man is different... Keep your secrets yours.
We are better than flattery.

No offense, I'm new enough that I've never said that before. :)

If someone has sex on the brain, right now! Urgent! Wants attention day and night! but makes an appointment weeks away...  they are *not* an untapped stream of revenue.

At best, they're the classic "20% of your clients use up 80% of your time/resources."  At worst, they'll cancel and be complete time-wasters.  You'll learn pretty quickly how to cull them out and save your flirty inclinations for established regulars.

If a guy keep talking sexual on the phone it is pretty clear that he just want to j..e..r..k off for free.
He is not going to pay you a donation after he is done c..u..m..i..n...g. So don't bother to ask for paid flirting.  
Just send him on niteflirt for paid phone sex sessions then hang up the phone.

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