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Redistribute the Wealth.....humor
Posted by Aliados, 10/24/2008 5:22:17 AM


Redistribute the Wealth

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed money more.

I guess "redistribution of wealth" is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

NCJimbo1196 reads

Thanks GaGambler for posting that.

Upper Class Pillaging: economists say YES TO OBAMA


Will the tide finally turn during an Obama Presidency? After analyzing Obama's economic positions (including health care, tax policies and budgeting), most economists say "yes!"

After eight years of the Bush Presidency, McCain style deregulation and tax policy that favors the rich, the American middle class has been taken hostage and told they will lose everything (trickle down financial ruin) if they do not bailout the big banks, investment firms and insurance companies. Bush & Cheney have perfected the panic mode wealth transfer that Naomi Klein describes so well in "The Shock Doctrine." This multi-trillion-dollar parting gift is their payback to the upper class that helped orchestrate their election

The middle class and poor get crumbs from measly "bailouts" such as the lackluster sub-prime mortgage assistance program and a tax rebate check for $600; while the rich get more tangible bailouts to the tune of billions. Capitalism for the middle class, socialism for the rich, indeed! This is what you get when corrupt Republicans and the Corporate sociopathic personality rule the economy. One of the ways to change this dynamic is to remove corporation's status as a separate entity unbound by individual consequences and place more responsibility on the executives that direct corporate actions.

We need to end the the welfare era for the rich via tax cuts, Halliburton / war "no bid" handouts, oil company gouging and corporate bailouts. Instead, the American government needs to lift the middle class with investments in education, job training, energy independence (from domestic oil companies too!), health care and economic programs such as small business development and tangible mortgage assistance.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-garibaldi-frick/upper-class-pillaging_b_135892.html


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of subsistence wages. In the USA $10.00 is not wealth. The ownership of capital is what wealth is.

Timbow1646 reads

I betcha you really  liked how Clinton  was clear on what the defintion of  ''is'' is  :)

SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH & CAPITALISM FOR THE POOR

THE TRUTH IS obama is not a socialist YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT A SOCIALIST IS OR DOES.

What is socialism? What is Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality


What is socialism? Socialism refers to an economic theory of social organization advocating social



Well let's first talk about Obama being an evil socialist. What is socialism? Socialism refers to an economic theory of social organization advocating social or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. Asking a society whose top 1% controls more wealth than its lower 90% to carry more weight in taxes is not an example of Socialism. Nor is a nation’s government accepting responsibility that the health of its constituents is an inalienable right to be extended to all.

Capitalism is the economic system in which the means of production are owned by private persons, and operated for profit and where investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods and services are predominantly determined through the operation of a free market, rather than by central economic planning. Capitalism is not bad in concept. It affords any person through the means of "entrepreneurship" (more on this later) the freedom to build a mountain from a mole. However, under the term in which we live, capitalism can be better described by using the term "pimps and ho's" with the elite (or top 1%) being the pimps and the rest of us ho's. Some of us ho's will prosper "because ho's gotta eat too", but by design there will always be a vast disparity between that the top and the bottom. This is why things in this country don't make sense. How does it make sense that the wealthiest nation in the world has the highest rate of poverty as compared against its wealth? How is it that the wealthiest nation in the world ranks 38th in life expectancy as it relates to death of natural cause?

I don't know how many of you watched Bill Maher yesterday but there was an interesting quote cited (I don't remember who made the quote) but it said something like: Capitalism can be viewed as a game of poker where a couple of the players control 90% of the chips. At a certain point the only way that the other players can remain in the game is to borrow. Once the controlling players are either no longer willing or able to lend the game ends.

What "trickle down" is about is giving those few players that control 90% of the chips even more chips so they can continue to lend chips out to the struggling players. These players will continue to struggle under this system but the game in theory can be extended a little longer.

There's another quote from Marx that reads: "Capitalism tends to improve manufacturing or technological development efficiencies. As technological innovation becomes more and more streamlined/mechanized, the need for entrepreneurship declines". "Capitalism eventually becomes a bureaucratic process of large corporations and organizations, no longer requiring entrepreneurship. As this happens, capitalism loses its primary driver (the entrepreneur) and dies out".

Capitalism (under the form in which we practice):
A. forsakes the concerns of the MAJORITY (lower 90%) in favor of the MINORITY (upper 1%)
&
B. validates the top 15% and deceives the lower 85% into worshiping an ideal that is good in its definition but evil in its application

What Senator Obama is proposing is not an end of capitalism or "the free market". What's he's proposing is adopting some ideals that one can argue could be related to socialism in nature. What he's talking about is empowering the middle class with more chips SO THE GAME CAN KEEP GOING. But the difference is that by empowering the middle class innovation and "entrepreneurship" can again be sparked in this country and new industries like (Energy Technology) can spring up. What's wrong with that if the system is broken? I won't tell you what's wrong with it but I will tell you why you think it's wrong. It's mainly this: http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip. It's the reason that the McCain campaign has been harping on the phrase "spreading the wealth" because it taps into this mindset. It's what Tim Wise (noted above) calls the "overseer complex".

The Republican Party has been a perpetrator of this complex that teaches us to protect our ideal of enslaving ourselves to the elite without even knowing that we're doing it. What he talks about is that WE ARE ALL SLAVES under this system but the entire racist movement was designed to divert attention away from the enslavers and give the whites an enemy (blacks) to place blame on as an explanation as to why in spite of their hard work, they didn't seem to be getting ahead.

The Republican Party has demonized anything that goes against this system. The term socialist is now basically a slur not far behind terrorist and is used in a way to describe why America is so much better than every other nation (most of whom practice forms of socialism). We're not talking about a "redistribution of wealth" what we’re talking about is greed. The greed that is destroying our great nation that was founded on the principal that no man had any right over another in his pursuit of the American dream. We're not talking about socialism, what were talking about is the fact that are not living up to the principles that this country was founded upon. What we're talking about is that under these principals everyone's life should hold the same value, regardless to whether you are in the highest tax bracket and can afford the best health insurance that money can buy or if you were born into poverty and thus can't afford to protect your health. Your life.

Republicans (or should I say "My Friends"), you've been fed the wrong dose of medicine. As a result you're suffering from delusions and hearing voices in your head of Fox News correspondents that are telling you that your mission is to protect these ideals. The same ideals that hurt YOU unless you become one of those that are holding most of the chips. But we all know that will never happen. None the less, like a good soldier you march into battle without even knowing who or what you're fighting for


This is a clip from The Pathology of Privilege: Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality, the newly released video from the Media Education Foundation. The video is of a speech given by Tim Wise at Mt. Holyoke College, October 1, 2007.

http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip

more here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc

kerrakles1521 reads

Fuck redistribution of wealth. O'Bomb should start of with redistributing his $7 Million net worth. Only problem is Michelle will cut his balls of.

A waitress would benefit from the Obama plan as well as the homeless man and the small business owner of the restaurant because its unlike they make over $250k per year

9-man1858 reads


. . . that's just being a dick. It's funny in a mean way.

You talk about inciting class warfare.

The Obama plan is more like if he gave the waiter a nine dollar tip and gave the homeless guy one dollar without telling them and trying to incite a fight between those two. It's not like the rich guy stands to lose ALL his money.

Let's take the opposite, the Republican plan. In that plan, the waiter doesn't get a tip, because if the rich guy gave a tip, it would mean the waiter knew how to spend the rich guy's money better than the rich guy does. This can't be true, because the rich guy's smart and the poor guy is stupid, so the rich guy keeps every penny.    

I'll mention three things that stand out in the example. If the rich learned man gave a 20 percent tip, he ate a fifty dollar meal. That's a hell of a big price for lunch. Not only that, he's eating alone. Which means of course, he's such a big dick that nobody will lunch with him.

How does he know the guy outside is even homeless? It seems that urging a vote for Obama is the stupidest way to beg for money. He doesn't see any return for a year or two. That's not too desperate.

Conclusion: I think the "homeless guy" and the waiter were a couple of grifters. The stupid-ass mark upped his "tip" by three times as much to make his point. After he gives ten dollars to the begger, they both split it and waited for the dumbshit.

 

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