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Re: Okay, then. Why?
89Springer 850 reads
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Ah, I was hoping you'd reply, Taylor.  Give some folks an idea of what BSC is really about. I'd never consider doing that with anyone, but after your last dust-up with me...

I contacted you on 12/24/2013 to ask about seeing you in early January. We didn't set a date, but I'd mentioned 1/5/2014 and 1/12/2014. I had contacted another provider a few days before, but didn't hear back. I made a mistake by not giving that provider enough time to reply. When she did, I was in an awkward situation, and a veteran member here suggested that the best way out was to simply go with the first provider I'd contacted. You said "Awesome. Have fun:)" and that was it.  Even with my clumsy handling of the situation, I canceled more than a week in advance of the first suggested day.

Contrary to what you say about whining and such, I never did any such thing. You had sent me PM's about various threads on  the forum, and I replied back. Things were cordial enough between us, which left me wondering if you'd consider seeing me. I finally asked straight out, you answered straight, which I appreciated. You continued to PM me about topics on the forum, and I replied. Things were cordial.

When I mentioned that a couple of veteran members known for being assholes had been very helpful to me privately (guys you can't stand), your whole attitude changed. You got very hostile, and we ceased the messaging.

Your smiley face was in response to someone on the Atlanta forum looking for a provider with a big butt. You gave the name of a provider I know well who is sensitive about the size of her butt, and I was wondering if there was any more to your reply, because of the big smiley face. I simply posted "Is there a joke in there somewhere?"

This is where I got to see a side of you that I think few people have seen. You sent emails--not PM's and certainly not forum replies, but emails, to me. In them you ranted, "are you fucking crazy", "get a fucking life", "what's your fucking problem", etc. In all you sent six emails that were so off the wall I could practically hear the foam forming at the corners of your mouth.  

You knew that it would be against forum rules for me to post those emails. You let the crazy bitch off her leash in emails to me, then sat back and let your white knights defend you on the forum. You kept the crazy hidden, and showed the calm, professional demeanor you try to project on the forum and on your website.  

That's cunning. You know that you have a BSC side, but you're clever enough to keep it out of plain view.

I'm glad I made that mistake and we didn't get together. I might have wound up as fish food in the Chattahoochee river.

 


-- Modified on 1/30/2015 3:45:23 PM

89Springer2274 reads

I often read reviews of providers I've seen, to see if anything has changed, and to see if other guys have the same or different opinions.

There's a provider for whom I gave a very good review and score, and yesterday she had a negative review with lots of bad things to say. The guy still gave her an 8/8, though. I looked at his reviews, and he has over 200. He's a critical reviewer, and with few exceptions, 8/8 is as high as he goes.  

Later in the day I wanted to read the review again, and it was gone. I PM'ed the reviewer to ask what happened, and he replied back that he'd reviewed the wrong SuzieQ. There was a nervous tone to his reply, which was strange. The review described the provider I know to a "T". One particular thing he mentioned left me with no doubt it was her that he had reviewed.

So what might have happened?

Senator.Blutarsky891 reads

It was probably fake review. She reported it to TER admin and the reviewer could not provide supporting documentation he'd seen her, so it was removed.

If it was real, and the reviewer could prove he'd seen her, it would still be up.

89Springer1126 reads

The guy has a couple hundred reviews. Why would he make up a review about her?  He mentioned a birthmark that only someone who's seen her naked would know, so if he didn't see her, someone who did gave him this info.

As for GaG's reply above, she's a really sweet girl. I've never seen a mean side to her. If she's playing rough, that's a side that she hides very well.

After an experience with Taylor Leigh of Atlanta, though, I've seen how some BSC's hide it very well

GaGambler850 reads

None of this should be news to anyone who has spent any time on these boards, this is a pretty common occurrence, and I blame the "top lists" for the fact that it's only become a major issue since the start of said lists.

VOO-doo592 reads

We are all 'sweet'. That's how we get men to pay us. Some of the most BSC girls I've ever met have also been the sweetest, most endearing people I've ever met.  

BUT, I disagree that the review manipulation only started after the top 10 lists. I remember it happening back in 2009. But, maybe the lists were around then and I just didn't know? I wasn't as TER-savvy back then.  

But with or without the list, a review list full of recent 10's will keep a girl very, very busy.

reading a few reviews on his subject to get an air of credibility. Someone mentions birthmark, so he mentions birthmark.  I'm just speculating as to one possible answer to your question.

89Springer671 reads

I have no doubt that what you describe happens all the time. This guy, though, has reviewed some highly-rated providers and gave them tepid reviews. I would think any of those providers would contact TER about them if they were fake.

I assume he was pressured. I just wonder what the leverage would be.

Senator.Blutarsky934 reads

If it wasn't fake, the other possibility as GaG noted is she has his RL info and threatened to out him.  Either scenario is odd for someone with that many reviews.

Give it a rest buddy!
You contacted me over a year ago for an appt. Told me not to waste your or your references time screening if I couldn't see you when requested. I told you that I was absolutely available on that date. Screened and contacted you back only to be told that you were no longer interested because your first choice contacted you the day prior. You wasted my time.  
I cut up with you on here and you tried to rebook with me and I declined. You then whined about it and I told you basically to get over yourself. Then you had the audacity to try and cause drama because of a smiley face on my recommendations to an 'in search of' post.  
Now you're bored and posting drivel about some gals review disappearing. If you've seen her and had a great time, why the hell does it concern you?  
And I'm the BSC one! That's fine, I'll take it. I didn't blacklist you for double booking. Most would.
If you're still wondering why girls are flaking on you and canceling, perhaps you should check yourself.  
I'm disgusted with myself for even bothering to write you a response, but you should know that your ridiculous behavior is the reason for not seeing you. Your concern for what everyone else is doing is a bit off-putting. Must be a slow day at the senior citizens center:

89Springer851 reads

Ah, I was hoping you'd reply, Taylor.  Give some folks an idea of what BSC is really about. I'd never consider doing that with anyone, but after your last dust-up with me...

I contacted you on 12/24/2013 to ask about seeing you in early January. We didn't set a date, but I'd mentioned 1/5/2014 and 1/12/2014. I had contacted another provider a few days before, but didn't hear back. I made a mistake by not giving that provider enough time to reply. When she did, I was in an awkward situation, and a veteran member here suggested that the best way out was to simply go with the first provider I'd contacted. You said "Awesome. Have fun:)" and that was it.  Even with my clumsy handling of the situation, I canceled more than a week in advance of the first suggested day.

Contrary to what you say about whining and such, I never did any such thing. You had sent me PM's about various threads on  the forum, and I replied back. Things were cordial enough between us, which left me wondering if you'd consider seeing me. I finally asked straight out, you answered straight, which I appreciated. You continued to PM me about topics on the forum, and I replied. Things were cordial.

When I mentioned that a couple of veteran members known for being assholes had been very helpful to me privately (guys you can't stand), your whole attitude changed. You got very hostile, and we ceased the messaging.

Your smiley face was in response to someone on the Atlanta forum looking for a provider with a big butt. You gave the name of a provider I know well who is sensitive about the size of her butt, and I was wondering if there was any more to your reply, because of the big smiley face. I simply posted "Is there a joke in there somewhere?"

This is where I got to see a side of you that I think few people have seen. You sent emails--not PM's and certainly not forum replies, but emails, to me. In them you ranted, "are you fucking crazy", "get a fucking life", "what's your fucking problem", etc. In all you sent six emails that were so off the wall I could practically hear the foam forming at the corners of your mouth.  

You knew that it would be against forum rules for me to post those emails. You let the crazy bitch off her leash in emails to me, then sat back and let your white knights defend you on the forum. You kept the crazy hidden, and showed the calm, professional demeanor you try to project on the forum and on your website.  

That's cunning. You know that you have a BSC side, but you're clever enough to keep it out of plain view.

I'm glad I made that mistake and we didn't get together. I might have wound up as fish food in the Chattahoochee river.

 


-- Modified on 1/30/2015 3:45:23 PM

Emailed you simply because I was unaware that you could PM an alias. Just wanted to let you know how ridiculously immature it is to try and make drama of a smiley face. I didn't know that provider. Just knew her pics fit what op was searching for. I was being nice and making a simple recommendation. You took it to another level because you obviously have way too much damn time on your hands, clearly like to start shit and seemed a bit angry because I declined to see you.  
I don't hide behind another alias on here to start drama. If I have something to say, I say it. I'm sure there are tons of folks here who don't give a rats ass for me. That's fine. I'm not trying to appease anyone here.  
It was abundantly clear that you were trolling to get a response from me by calling me BSC.. and I'm sincerely disappointed in myself for responding. But hey, you got what you wanted! Yay. Have you had your fill of drama for the day? Or would you like to keep going?..  
Make it quick. I have plans:)

89Springer981 reads

Really? You didn't mouse over my alias to see that clicking opened a PM box, but you still had my email address from over a year ago? And you actually considered it appropriate to harass someone off the forum via email, using an email address that was given to you in confidence for the purpose of screening and arranging a meeting? The appropriate thing to do would have been to reply to my post in the thread and on the forum, but then people would have seen you out of control, and your well-crafted image would have been shattered.

If you didn't know the provider, why would you recommend her for a big butt?

I was never angry that you wouldn't see me. It was months before I even knew that, and by that time I realized it was a good thing. I've never had any ill feelings toward you at all, until you started filling my email inbox with venom.

You only post in the General forum every month or two, and don't say much when you do. Mostly hit-and-run insults. Judging from the things you said in your previous post (most of it erroneous), you've been reading my posts for quite some time. I"m flattered. I have my very own female internet stalker.

I'm stalking? Your public post insulting me was brought to my attention today. You're on here keeping up with reviews that come and go and questioning a providers behavior when you've already met her! Obviously you keep up with how often I post.. Have I called you a stalker? No. I have better things to do and more important people to concern myself with.  
The 'laughing' (as you called it) smiley face is an insult this time.

89Springer690 reads

But I'm glad you have better things to do and more important people to concern yourself with, rather than continuing to reply to a pathetic old man like me on an empty internet forum at 3 am

bonordonor787 reads

You don't seem to be the brightest bulb in the room, yet you can afford these pricey dames...I'm guessing you get your money from your stepfather's fortune.

89Springer939 reads

The expression is "not the brightest bulb in the box/on the tree/on the chandelier". And I'm divorced (as pretty much everyone here is painfully aware), so no stepfather's fortune. Other than that, good post.

As for "pricey dames", I prefer quality over quantity. Other than the above-normal level of crazy, Taylor is very much quality.

-- Modified on 1/31/2015 8:53:58 AM

Either just kiss and make up or move on from each other already - playing this out here makes you both look slightly obsessive IMO.

Just my recommendation...

No disrespect to you sir, but this well above average crazy man has stepped on my very last nerve. When he tried to start his public drama scene on one of my posts, I'd had it. I contacted him via email (because I didn't see an envelope below his handle) to address him personally. He decided to nit pick, thus the 6 or whatever emails. Pretty clear from this post that is his MO. I don't like to bring my drama to the boards. If I have an issue with a client (in his case, potential, never happened, damaged client) I contact them directly. Why? because I don't really give a fuck to hear everyone's honest opinion on the matter. Now you're prob asking yourself why I responded to him on this post.. Well, it's because he slandered me with zero just cause.. aside from the fact that I refuse to suck or sit on his dick. And I'm not apologizing for that.
I do post on here from time to time.. and certainly don't try to hide my true feelings on any subject matter or pacify anyone, especially the trolls. That said, not really certain how anyone would come to the conclusion that I'm hiding the true me.. in terms of being BSC. I'm actually a genuinely nice person. But not when people go out of their way to piss me off!
As to your subject line, I'm not trying to WIN anything. The man has stated, several times, that it's inappropriate for me to discuss his ridiculous behavior privately. He even stated on this post that he was trolling for a response from me. Yay for him. He got what he wanted.. and hopefully a few gals can note another troll to steer clear of.  
So... While I greatly appreciate your opinion and recommendation, I truly don't care. Thanks for posting tho! I'm sure TER really appreciates your biz:)

As that did seem uncalled for, calling you out like that.  And indeed, that is the best exhibit if you were trying to convince a "jury of your peers" as they say.  The rest of this back and forth is impossible for anyone to ferret out the truth - it's a he said/she said - and honestly it doesn't make either of you look great to prolong it on here like this.  Just giving you an unbiased opinion from the outside looking-in at this drama between you both.  And this certainly is A LOT of drama for two people who have never even met.  You had the high ground, but when you choose to wallow in the mud, it made me start to think, "maybe what this guy said is correct..."

Not that you want my advice, but if all you say is correct - you could have just kept it short and sweet and said "Nothing this gentlemen has said about me is true.  The fact that he brought up my name out of the blue, without provocation, and attempted to slander my reputation should demonstrate to all who read his post his lack of character and discretion.  This is all that I will say on the matter on these public boards.  Thank you."

Easy to get emotional and want to vent - we've all been there - but just realize, while it may make us feel better, it isn't always beneficial.

Now if what HE said is true (and I have no idea which of you is being truthful on the detail), then... oh never mind...

Happy Superbowl Sunday...

VOO-doo514 reads

Lots of girls PM, email, and generally badger guys to take reviews down (or make the numbers higher). Emotional blackmail - "This is how I make a living, I have 10 kids to feed", offers of a free/heavily discounted session in the future, etc. Threats to blacklist or worse. It's pretty rampant.

And/or blacklist him.

As much time as you spend on this board, and as much time as the topic comes up, how do you not know this?

89Springer740 reads

But, as I said earlier, I've been fooled before.  

I wasn't pressured by her to give her a high score. I thought she deserved it. Her other reviews back up the scores. She had a devastating review a year ago from a guy, and he gave her a 7/7.  If he was pressured, he didn't give in

But perhaps if you gave a low score, you would have been "pressured" to remove it. Maybe she didn't have personal info from the guy who gave the 7/7, or maybe he is blackmail proof.

I once gave a very negative review. She lobbied hard for TER to remove it. They said No. Sometime later I was looking back through my reviews and thought to myself it may have been a little harsh. When I contacted TER about changing it, not removing it, they said No. It still stands today. I'm not sure she can blackmail him into changing anything as the decision is made by the folks at TER. My experience is they really don't allow reviews to be changed. I encourage all reviewers to give an honest account in their opinion, but before you click submit be sure of what you are saying.

VOO-doo652 reads

Especially in NYC. The more legendary the provider, the more often you experience the phemonema of the 'now you see it, now you don't' review.

There was one provider in particular I knew pretty well who did this a lot. I worked with her when I was super new and naive, because I was fascinated by her status. A dude saw both of us and reviewed us both (her first, me second).  

She was the first escort he'd ever seen. He gave her an 8-8, even as he described the numerous ways in which she literally bent over backwards, sideways, and upside down. Anal, role play, etc. Even I thought it was an unfair review, given the criteria and how much work she'd obviously put into the session...but I guess he graded literally. She was 'really hot', and he did not forget he'd paid.  

He saw me, and gave me a 9-9. I did about half of what she did (no anal). I could tell that she was pissed. A few days later, her review was down. I'm sure it would have been taken down anyway, but the timing was kind of funny.  

I did sort of agree that it wasn't quite fair. He was a dumbass. Probably one of those people who think you can only give ONE ten.

This brings to mind a problem I see and would like others to weigh in.  

Burned - I met with a TER top 100 provider. She was a disaster in looks and performance. I did not give her a bad review, because she talked trash in our meeting and I am sure she would have blacklisted me, tried to harm my personal life, etc.  

Thoughts? Besides saying I am chicken shit for not giving her  bad review. LOL

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