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Re: It depends on why you're having trouble and how you're handling it
LR1 784 reads
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Ha!  I like your post, but I think I'm an even different option.  Let's call it Option 0.5: Dude can't get it up, KNOWS IT and tells the provider right up front that it will probably take getting to know her for one or two visits before things settle in, and tries to have a good time anyway without making her waste her effort.  Like going down on her 'til she screams, making out like 15 year olds, massage, caressing, etc., etc., - all the fun you can possibly have without penetration of any kind.  Why does Option 0.5 dude think he can't get it up?  Because he's kinda shy and just needs to get to know the girl, especially a very hot girl who knows what she's doing.

LR13382 reads

Do providers get offended, turned off, or take it personally if we have erection problems?  I've had some erectile problems lately and I tell the provider up front that it's an issue and not to take it personally, and that it will probably subside after one or two visits.  I try to have as much fun with them as possible otherwise (DFK, DATY), I always give what I think is a generous tip, and try to be a gentleman in every respect.  But then the providers seem to frequently go away for extended periods of time and often reschedule dates, making it very difficult to see them again.  Is there a connection, or is it just coincidence?

JackDunphy1177 reads

Lets review:

They lay back, get eaten out, do MUCH less work AND your tipping them?

You're their text book DREAM client! :D

Skinny_Minnie:-)1404 reads

We're not thrilled.  We want to get the guy off.  If he can't perform, yes, theres a little bit of, "Maybe he's not attracted to me." :(

Also, if he's teasing and playing with us, then WE get horny and want to get off.  If his cock won't get hard, then we get the female version of blue balls.  I don't want to ride the train home frustrated with wet panties.  ED is a lose/lose proposition.

I am not a fan of Viagra for men who don't need it (that gives another problem- hard **** and he can't cum), but some guys do benefit from Viagra to treat the symptoms.  But of course, health, fitness, quit smoking, etc result in better performance than any pill.

JackDunphy1230 reads

Actually, my art school type is a bit that way, to be honest. Sometimes after round 2, she asks me to satisfy her again, but orally is all that is possible for me at that point.

Still, it is funny hearing about a p4p girl who isn't getting enough. All the reviews I read where you gals come 6-8 times, I just figured this wouldn't be an issue.  

But you're the broad that fked your boss on his desk, right? Didn't that make up for all your ED guys? LOL

GaGambler1012 reads

but I do remember this one day a couple of years ago, I was hanging out at the incall of my GF who was taking the day off. Her roommate however was working and had three appointments that day while the several of us were eating, drinking and generally just hanging out that day in the rest of the apartment and just made sure we kept the noise down when her roommate had a client in her bedroom.

Now my GF's roommate was pretty hot, but all three of her appointments either just wanted to "talk and/or cuddle" or had ED issues that day, and after three appointments she still hadn't got laid. She was so fucking mad after the third guy wouldn't fuck her, she came storming out of the room and announced to all of us that she was calling her BF so she could get some dick. lol

True story, I don't know how often it happens, but she stayed locked up in her room for a good two hours after her BF showed up, and gave the rest of us a good laugh.

So yes, I can state categorically that even hookers get the female equivalent of "blue balls" lol

VOO-doo772 reads

A few times, the guy just hadn't gotten me there, or it was taking a bit too long. If I sensed that he was about to get frustrated, I'd fake an O and let him have his moment.  

Later on, I'd have to arrange for some stress relief, lol.

VOO-doo961 reads

In my past experiences, I've been stuck in 69 till my arms throbbed and shook from holding myself up for so long. I've alternated elbow to elbow, wrist to wrist, side to side, trying to find that place I can stay w/o collapsing for 1+ hours (because the minute we shift or falter, or make it look like work, the guy goes soft).  

I've sucked limp cock so hard for so long that I felt like I had lockjaw the next day.  

If he can't get hard, he's wanting 69, wanting to finger me (sometimes roughly). Sometimes, he tries to stuff his dick in soft and basically soft-hump me. Sometimes, he wants the impossible...he wants ME on top, to get him hard...I kind of have to wiggle over him and put on an Oscar performance. It's a good ab workout, at least.  

I've given 2+ hours of full-body massages to a guy who is trying to get hard...gotta make him happy!!!

Glad you think our job is so easy, though.

If you sucked dick for that long and couldn't get the job done or had lock jaw, you either aren't that good or you should have stopped sucking it. Either way, it's YOUR fault.

And I never said your job was easy, but that won't stop you from distorting my position.

Many guys want to just cuddle and want companionship, whether they cum or not, and in many cases, it certainly is less work. Other cases not so much.

I'm guessing you still get paid your very high per hour fee either way, and I'm sure since many johns feel guilty or bad about not coming "for you", you get tipped as well so stop whining

VOO-doo1098 reads

When a guy is 50+ pounds overweight, smokes, hasn't exercised in 25 years, etc...then can't keep it hard...that really isn't my fault.  

I have a regular who's 400+ pounds, MAJOR hobbyist. Takes for-EVER to come (and wants to come 2x before dinner, 1x before bed, 2x in the AM), but he's really nice. He's been booking me for overnights for years, so I guess I'm doing something right...

I do my job, and as long as the price is right, I'm happy to do it. I've rarely been tipped, BTW...my rate is multihour and on the higher side, but not outrageous.  

About relaxing and cuddling...I don't want that, so much. I'd rather the dude blow his nut. The cuddling is not about less work, it is about making the guy RELAX. That way, he stops sabotaging himself by focusing too much on the finish and letting his frustration get the better of him. (See, it's about HIM). Out of the many time-honored methods I have for dealing with ED in many forms, relaxing and slowing down...just allowing the guy to let himself be present in the moment...is the most successful

continuing forever to try and make him cum, to the point of it hurting your jaw, is, imo. Angel said it in a post below. There gets to a point where a gal has to say "sorry, John, I don't have it in me today."

You need to set your limits before you have some pain or major discomfort but I am sure passing on that overnight money is easier said then done.  

I am surprised a bit you don't get tipped. Seems that many johns here claim that they do, but as you state, your price point may inhibit that a bit.

Not a cuddler either, so we might be a good match...but then again, I don't see you as the type that sees "dick posters." LOL

VOO-doo908 reads

This is a job, and I can't always be Miss Priss, especially where a few K is concerned. With that said, I generally set limits for safety and injury (a va-j-j needing neopsporin doesn't count). And dignity (I have to live w/myself my whole life after I see XXX, or do XXX. The appointment lasts 1 day, but I will remember it forever). I rarely see anybody who truly makes me put my foot down, although I used to come up against quite a few in my agency days.

From what you've said, I'm not your type physically, so no worries there ;

The agency girls I know personally all have their war stories. I can't even imagine VD!

Now...when you say you are not my type...hmmmm...youre either too fat...too old, lol...or too muscular. Lol

I'll let you decide if you want to tell me which one. Lol

I had an experience that put me out of commission for damn near a month. And technically it was my fault, but we are being paid to give it our all and I did. In this case I knew I was going to be reviewed. this guy knew I had difficulties and had to take things easy but that must have gone right out the window.

Our afternoon and dinner was wonderful but what I was afraid of happening happened ten fold.  He took the blue pill at dinner. BCD it was way too much for me. I had to keep leaning and putting too much pressure on my muscles and joints. I kept trying and he kept wanting different positions and hard.  After what felt like an eternity to me of TRYING to the point of muscle exhaustion I knew I would pay a price. This was supposed to be a romance date and at this point it most certainly wasn't!

And to make things worse after I had busted my ass to no avail he says to me, "Oh I almost never come with a condom on! Um ok I would have liked to know that about 90 minutes ago! So more oral to the point that my neck and arms were burning. FINALLY got him off.

When I woke up the next day my arms, wrists and neck woke me up. The damn pain was just horrible. I really didn't know how I was even going to make the 2 plus hr drive home. The pain was worse the day after I got home and was so bad I couldn't sleep the night thru.  It got progressively worse until I ended up at Duke Neck And Spine-TWICE in 4 weeks.

Cost wise when it was all said and done, I was in the hole almost 3 grand. Not a win win.

We DO feel pressure to do whatever we can to make a client happy. Back in 2011, I would have been sore for about 2 days ad been back to normal after that. Not now.

Now the reason I say it was mostly my fault is because I had no "no" several times from 2013 and part of 2014. I "thought" if I explained to him I wasn't the same, I'd be fine. His posts seem to get more romantic and less wham bam so I thought I'd be fine. I had been warned that he was high maintenance in the sack, so I kept declining. Until I read a couple of different sounding posts on the board from him. Big mistake for me.

I love making people happy and it cost me trying to live up to expectations I just couldn't do anymore. So YES sometimes ladies try to hard because we don't like to feel like we didn't measure up.

It ain't always easy, lay back and enjoy the ride. I know I know, cry me a river, lol. Right now I'm feeling sore muscles in both of my forearms and shoulders and I'm off the Baltimore tomorrow. I think I'll still be able the dazzle my dates though. Both are sweethearts and aware and understand.

I learned an expensive lesson last summer and now if I have to stop, I'll just stop. Nothing is worth the pain I was in for a damn month. and that was a month of seeing no one and going to 3 Doc appts.

Steph xoxo

You just said there was nothing "hard" :)

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It sucks when that happens. For me if I start to get worn out I ask gently if he feels like it's gonna happen lol.  Then we can switch to hj and it lets him know that you're getting tired so maybe he'll stop lol

Posted By: VOO-doo
In my past experiences, I've been stuck in 69 till my arms throbbed and shook from holding myself up for so long. I've alternated elbow to elbow, wrist to wrist, side to side, trying to find that place I can stay w/o collapsing for 1+ hours (because the minute we shift or falter, or make it look like work, the guy goes soft).  
   
 I've sucked limp cock so hard for so long that I felt like I had lockjaw the next day.  
   
 If he can't get hard, he's wanting 69, wanting to finger me (sometimes roughly). Sometimes, he tries to stuff his dick in soft and basically soft-hump me. Sometimes, he wants the impossible...he wants ME on top, to get him hard...I kind of have to wiggle over him and put on an Oscar performance. It's a good ab workout, at least.  
   
 I've given 2+ hours of full-body massages to a guy who is trying to get hard...gotta make him happy!!!  
   
 Glad you think our job is so easy, though.

Even my first time out the gate. It is what the ED at the end of my handle stands for. It got worse after some major health issues a few years back. Doctors say I am lucky to be able to preform at all. I do exercise daily though. Just because I am a fat limp lump does not mean I don't exercise. I just eat more than I should by a whole hell of a lot.  

I fully agree guys like me are more work. I try to let the lady know up front my issues and why they are there. Ladies do take it personally at times. I wish they wouldn't. Any guy who thinks limp cocks are easy are clueless. Your job is work. I would like to say thanks to all the ladies who work so hard to get guys like me off even if it doesn't always happen.  

I do call off the pursuit of an erection if it don't happen in 15 minutes though. It takes me a long time to cum and I don't want anyone to get lockjaw. LOL. Plus at that point I am mad at myself and it isn't going to happen. I make it a social date at that point or if she wants try to get her hers, her call.  

Anyway I wanted to say thanks to the ladies that take it is stride and give me one hell of a good time limp dick and all. And to let the ladies know limp dick does not mean you failed or aren't hot/skilled necessarily. Some of us guys just don't work as we should. Thank you for understanding when we are more work. That understanding goes a long way.


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Posted By: LR1
Do providers get offended, turned off, or take it personally if we have erection problems?  I've had some erectile problems lately and I tell the provider up front that it's an issue and not to take it personally, and that it will probably subside after one or two visits.  I try to have as much fun with them as possible otherwise (DFK, DATY), I always give what I think is a generous tip, and try to be a gentleman in every respect.  But then the providers seem to frequently go away for extended periods of time and often reschedule dates, making it very difficult to see them again.  Is there a connection, or is it just coincidence?
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a new keyboard, a text-to-speech app, or a remedial English class. Sheesh! That was painfully unintelligible!

cashorcredit1061 reads

Your primary doc can fix that easily.  

As for Providers I don't think they get offended or take it personally.  

I can't tell you how to spend your cash, but if I were you I would get my erectile problems taken care of before I stepped back in.  The hobby is about fun, and it's hard to have fun when your dicks not cooperating.

There are ways to have fun even when it isn't rising to the occasion. Just saying.

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of Delayed ejaculation may not be worth the risk, not sure what to tell the poor guy. Like you said might have to find other ways to have fun.

Don't sweat it. A few girls I know well told me it happens all of the time to them.
More in the mid west for some odd reason. We couldn't figure that one out.  
And yes. Many times they would get a shitty review, or blamed one way or another.

endlessly is annoying so no its fine, but if it isnt gonna happen dont make me sit there and kill myself tryin, lets give each other massages or take a long soapy shower together , Lets be sensual in other ways. cuddle.  

 
Focusing in on the matter and stressing the man and or provider even more, After a while if a lady is goin hard and fast and thinks the climax is about to happen.

  dont expect us to go suoer hard n fast n for too long til we hurt our arms or neck. i have had guy where they cant get off, and i like to go super slow, for long time, Intentionally not lettingthem, But when i see he may be ready that faster motion you do with hands and bbj, I can only do that for a certain time n if they cant I dnt like when they get upset my arms or neck is tired....

we are females we are delicate we dont have huge popeye forearms like you guys and shouldnt be expected to do the impossible, If a lady is getting ains and it just plain aint happenin dont give us an attitude and be un grateful,  

 

I hate when i work suer hard then it wont happen and when i tap out, I will go til i am hurting, I dont cry uncle before then i know i am being paid well and am willing to give it my all up until it starts to hurt me,...

 

and my neck is gettin stiff and my fore arms feel like they are on fire!

 
i will give it my al but to a certain extent, there has been a few times the man gets a tude, or will look at me like "how dare you be human!"

 
I thought you had man arms and could whack me off like i do to myself at home?

we are women after al not men and our arms may not be capable of doing it for as long and as hard as you do it to yourself.  

I would just say be reasonable with the lady if she gets sore let her take a break n rest her arms n neck , Dont be tere just to get dick beat and sucked n fucked as hard as they can for an entire 60 minutes. Allow us to spend some time recooperating and maybe give us a neck rub for a second,  

   I had 2 clients this year that did that, One wanted a second pop at a massage offered at a 250 discounted rate, Non gfe.  

then the second he just plain couldnt come in an hour tease and denail bbj appt again for a discount of 250...

 
I was offering a lower rate for massage with bbj ending.  

but i had found i had bad experiences with those clients more or less wanting like pse bbj not massage and not being understanding that it is hard to do a bbj for an hour!

    i took the discounted massage with bbj ending of the menu now and figure since those clients were prooving to be the hardest ..

 
         I had thought of bringing back a massage with bbj ending special rate but this time specifying the bbj is for 15 min and done at the end the massage, Not a discounted appt that is a hour long bbj til i cry uncle with pains in my neck and arms, I dont wanna be gettin hurt like that over some guy that cant cum or just wants a non stop bbj for 60 minutes,  

I dont wana be grabbin ice packs and on a couch with stiff muscles after thats no fun!

 
just be aware of the proividers feelings and make sure your not expecting her to get injured or pull a mucles over tryin to et you off, if you cant you cant, try mutual massage showering together , maybe yu get on top do some dfk.  

I know for me I dont care what they do just be respectful if i am startin to get pains from workin so hard n let me take a break, with out writing in the review I gave up on them i made them finish themselves off, To a certain extent after giving an hour long massage no i cant also do a hard fast rough bbj for another hour {otc{

had too many guys come one gave me 130 one gave me 180.  
both wanted pse bbj and couldnt cum and both them took it out on me in review stating they had to finish themselves off,  

Dont blame me you cant cum with in a reasonable amoutn of time and no extra money to get another hour..............................................

 
I have stamina and allow otc time but to a point..........................................................................................................................when it becomes its getting to be where i am in pain i am tryin so hard to get a guy off...

 
both those guys that did that to me seemed like they took a viagra to cuz it was like unusally rock hard, like almost unnaturally, then cpincidentally the same 2 that wrote poorly of me one gave me 180 then complained i charged extra 20 that it shouldve been 160.

the second gave 150 then deducted another 20 to cover coffee he bought me.

 
both guys also reviewed poorly and this was after i tryed my hardest until i washurting,,,,that was the thanks i got.................................i tryed to get them off til my neck and arms were hurting and after a hour long good deep massage, and my massages are not light easy massages i lift the guys legs and stretche him its takes alot of elbow grease its not a lazy girls massage. i get into it and put alot my energy into it and strength,  

 

yeah just dont take it out on the lady, I seen that happen, very rarely but the 2 it happened with with me boith reviewed me badly and paid me peanuts and got this hour long kick ass massage and a jack happer bbj and hand til i actually worked on thier dick til I tapped out, yet they still complained i gave uo on them and they had to finish themselves,  

I dont throw the towel in unless i ma dead weight and cant go any farther.  

 

both guys were my only massage for the day so i know my stamina was on point those days, i didnt see any one before or AFTER them yet my amount of stamina duidnt make the grade. and both paid reaaly badly, with no tip just a nice bad review as a thank you.  

and when you work on some one til the point of your muscles tappin out, and you cant go any longer then they still are angry , it does hurt you after, being treated like that.

ATLDAWG654 reads

She is working with a limp dick in one hand and typing with the other !!

she just recently learned the art of the paragraph...

So even though you do ramble a bit - they certainly are revealing of your thoughts.  And this one was interesting, because I'm often on the other side of this, taking a long time to cum for round 2 - but not wanting either the lady or myself to feel too pressured by this.  Key is knowing when to throw in the towel and realize it's just not happening on this day, but still enjoying the ride.

I have a few clients with performance issues but with my bag of tricks no one leaves unsatisfied.  

Most times it's in the mind. Remember you can have an orgasm without an erection or ejaculation.  
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VOO-doo1079 reads

Quite often have performance issues. A professional should still be able to show you a great time.

Trying too hard can work against you by killing the mood. Extended play can overstimulate both people (it can actually be very painful for the woman). I personally find that a good way to release the tension after a prolonged futile attempt at getting hard is a nice backrub, or just some cuddling/chatting with gentle caresses. Candles and music help in facilitating a slow and sensual sort of atmosphere conducive to deep relaxation. You can also use toys (ask her guidance) so that you can continue to pleasure her during your 'down' time :) Sometimes, that helps the guy relax enough that hardness happens w/o even trying :

so many times i tryed for them til i tapped out, then when you sayuh, ok i cant go any more my neck is hurt, They look at you like with thier head cocked to the side. Like oh, you are a real living human?
i forgot i thought you had suoer human strength and powers.

I just hate the ones that act rude when you mention it is starting to hurt. Luckily those ones ares rare!  

that hasnt happened to me much, 4 guys to be exact no 5. did that and treatedme like that. 2 were over the winter.  
the other 2 were both guys that turned around and reviewed me bad.

aside from them luckily not many the guys act like that, thank god, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cuz that sucked, like royally, it got me suoer angry, but thankfull i rarely have met clientelle that was like that, i dont think the greater majority of the hobbyist are like that. at least never the ones i have met only those 4 bastards.

Sooo...YouWanna956 reads

Not that the dudes can't give you a good answer on what a floppy cock in your face will do, but Minnie pretty well has it covered.  

Now, to the "it depends" part...

Option 1: dude can't get it up, and is clearly distressed about it. My reaction is going to be "aw, sweet baby. Put it back in my mouth. We'll fix it. Don't worry. Now let me feel it get hard in my hand so I can put it in this pussy you sick fuck I'm gonna talk you all the way through boner town til you fuck right through the back of me blahblahblahblah". Not that I enjoy this option...

Option 2: dude can't get it up, but is gonna try anyways, and is likely just awkward and dead pan about it, rather than distressed. "Ugh... Ok. That's fine we can do this. Do the money dance, come on get hard for momma and let her do the dance. Just fiiiive more minutes and we'll be there. THERE IT IS no wait... Fuck please get hard this is so hard" (sucking a limp dick is surprisingly tiring, OKAY??) Or a bad day or week or something can escalate it to "fuck. Get it together bitch this is your JAHB what is wrong with you? Why is this not working? Does my vag stink? Is it my gut? I knew I shouldn't have gotten that burger last weekend. Can't even get a fuckin dick up what the..." And on and on. Option 2 results are very dependent on how we have been doing lately, and has a lot less to do with you than you'd think. Hey, you asked. At least you know that, at this point, it's still mostly not you frustrating her, but her inner monologue. At this point you are right on the edge of option one, and one of our least favorite, option three...

Option 3: dude can't get it up, and is totally delusional about it. "Ugh WHAT THE FUCK can you NOT see this?? Are we in different rooms?? Stop squishing it on my ass it's NOT working OBVIOUSLY JESUS aw wtf I got fuckin wankers claw?! No! NO!!! Don't you fucking dare smash that dead baby bird lookin ass pile of mush against by vag. One more time. Do it one more time and I give up not even a handy for you." Etc. This is the equivalent of your boss dropping a steaming pile of shit on your desk, and proclaiming "look Dave! GOLD!!! Ya just gotta work on it a little! You have an hour! GO!!" And the whole time you know damn well... These guys are frustrating because you have to sit there and watch them get and stay in their own way for (usually) the entire session. If it's not happening, tugging on it as hard as you can for 45 minutes isn't going to change that. Having a drink of water and a little massage might. You pay me to know these things so please, allow me to use this wealth of knowledge to your benefit without you ever being aware of it. You And your dick might be long time buddies, but I am a mechanic who will change your fluids and fix your timing before you even know something's wrong. We've practiced, mmmkay? These guys are also more likely to become exceedingly rough (though well meaning) with a lady. They can't get it up and have cranked their dick raw, so now they've got to move on to your thoroughly shriveled up and dried out from watching this struggle pussy. It's just never bueno. Whether you can get it up or not, trying too hard is rarely to either parties benefit. Relax. She's done this hundreds of times.

(Disclaimer to the OP, you sound like an option one or a worst two type of guy. I don't see the third group asking these types of questions, lol)  

Obviously, these are general categories and there are nuances to everything. I don't know if you, dear reader, have noticed, but your reaction to the situation has more to do with how we feel/handle it than the actual situation.  

Can't have fun if you don't know ;-)

Last night my client couldn't get it up. That didn't end the session. We decided to have have a good time anyway. Lots of cuddling, conversation, and. playing.  

We had an excellent time.  

So does he need to get hard and cum? Not in my book. As long as he is having a good time then I will too.  

Kisses,
VP

Sooo...YouWanna721 reads

Mayhaps it will be more appreciated on the 60+ board?

LR1785 reads

Ha!  I like your post, but I think I'm an even different option.  Let's call it Option 0.5: Dude can't get it up, KNOWS IT and tells the provider right up front that it will probably take getting to know her for one or two visits before things settle in, and tries to have a good time anyway without making her waste her effort.  Like going down on her 'til she screams, making out like 15 year olds, massage, caressing, etc., etc., - all the fun you can possibly have without penetration of any kind.  Why does Option 0.5 dude think he can't get it up?  Because he's kinda shy and just needs to get to know the girl, especially a very hot girl who knows what she's doing.

skarphedin699 reads

I'm no schoolboy and I know what I like you should have heard me just around midnight!  

You are no schoolboy (unless you are Tids) and she is no schoolgirl.  

Get what you came for!

Ha!  

PS. If a hardcore cuddlefest is what you came for, go on and get after it!

VOO-doo750 reads

That is a very respectful way to handle it.  

If it's shyness that's inhibiting you, the lady especially needs to know. That way, she can make the session very relaxed and sensual, and she will not put any pressure on you to come.  

The minute you forget how much you want to get hard...you will already be there, lol.

I have issues down there and I know it. If it stays limp too long or if get hard but I can feel it isn't happening as some time it gets hard but the sensation isn't there. I just call it and find other ways we can enjoy our time. This can take several forms a quick bit to eat if there is time, talking about what ever, cuddling, take a walk together, massages, showering together, or if you want yours we can focus on that. I am skilled with toys and take direction. There is this fourth option. I am in it. Yes it bothers me when I can't make it happen but trying to raise what will not be raised isn't fun for me once I get a feeling it isn't going to happen. I rather move on to some other way of having fun and/or relaxing, and honestly I think many ladies would to.

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I am not sure what is so confusing about women's side of the story that men have to jump in and correct them rather than just take it for what it is. I hate to break it to you, but most of you aren't that special to need some option 1.5 or 4 or whatever, and it's a GOOD thing.  

You are either nice/polite/normal, lay there like a slug, or act like an ass. Do not pass go and do not try to make this complicated. You guys aren't.  

Thank you for essentially copying and pasting my post though. Clearly, my words weren't enough and needed a mans special touch.

How is taking a walk, taljing, cuddling, grabbing a bite to eat...copying and pasting
"We'll fix it. Don't worry. Now let me feel it get hard in my hand so I can put it in this pussy you sick fuck I'm gonna talk you all the way through boner town til you fuck right through the back of me blahblahblahblah"???

Sorry, but scoed's option 4 is completely different from your option 1.

And if it isn't happening I don't want you to waste effort suckling it. Things have to be right for my junk to work. The doctors said it likely wouldn't. I am lucky sometimes it does. Last thing I want on the days that iit isn't working to be reminded by having a woman repeatedly try and fail for the whole two hours I usually book. I am not special as lots of guys have issues and are willing to pay for other activities besides sex when things don't work as planned. Look, I in no way attacked you or your post, why are you so defensive? I am sorry I offended you.


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A) aware
B) aware and don't care
C) aware and in denial

It's not hard. You boys aren't that complicated. And that's a pretty good thing.  

Except for when you try to make yourselves so.

That was not what you posted at least how I read it, but thanks for the clarification. I am "A: aware". No disagreement in the least with the simpler version for special guys like me. LOL. ;)

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Sooo...YouWanna756 reads

Than an outline of said behaviors.  

I should've TLDRd it. If we can see that you know something's going wrong, we are a lot more likely to empathetically pull out all the stops than if you have a "deal with it" attitude.

GaGambler745 reads

Even when you are in 90% agreement with a guy, you harp on the 10% where you disagree, or sometimes it's not even disagreement, but just a matter of semantics. Are you this difficult to get along with in person? That could explain why you don't seem to like your work, or your customers.

I used to joke with H+T about her being a MHB, but in her case it was just joking, in your case it seems to be an apt description. It must really suck to have to not only interact with, but actually get intimate with people you clearly do not like.

Sooo...YouWanna797 reads

By all means, do. But do so on the thread in which I called you out for it instead of resorting to pettiness elsewhere.  

How do you know I hate men, or dislike my job? You don't. You're just continuing your own argument.  

Your soft spot is not my problem.

Posted By: Sooo...YouWanna
Not that the dudes can't give you a good answer on what a floppy cock in your face will do, but Minnie pretty well has it covered.  
   
 Now, to the "it depends" part...  
   
 Option 1: dude can't get it up, and is clearly distressed about it. My reaction is going to be "aw, sweet baby. Put it back in my mouth. We'll fix it. Don't worry. Now let me feel it get hard in my hand so I can put it in this pussy you sick fuck I'm gonna talk you all the way through boner town til you fuck right through the back of me blahblahblahblah". Not that I enjoy this option...  
   
 Option 2: dude can't get it up, but is gonna try anyways, and is likely just awkward and dead pan about it, rather than distressed. "Ugh... Ok. That's fine we can do this. Do the money dance, come on get hard for momma and let her do the dance. Just fiiiive more minutes and we'll be there. THERE IT IS no wait... Fuck please get hard this is so hard" (sucking a limp dick is surprisingly tiring, OKAY??) Or a bad day or week or something can escalate it to "fuck. Get it together bitch this is your JAHB what is wrong with you? Why is this not working? Does my vag stink? Is it my gut? I knew I shouldn't have gotten that burger last weekend. Can't even get a fuckin dick up what the..." And on and on. Option 2 results are very dependent on how we have been doing lately, and has a lot less to do with you than you'd think. Hey, you asked. At least you know that, at this point, it's still mostly not you frustrating her, but her inner monologue. At this point you are right on the edge of option one, and one of our least favorite, option three...  
   
 Option 3: dude can't get it up, and is totally delusional about it. "Ugh WHAT THE FUCK can you NOT see this?? Are we in different rooms?? Stop squishing it on my ass it's NOT working OBVIOUSLY JESUS aw wtf I got fuckin wankers claw?! No! NO!!! Don't you fucking dare smash that dead baby bird lookin ass pile of mush against by vag. One more time. Do it one more time and I give up not even a handy for you." Etc. This is the equivalent of your boss dropping a steaming pile of shit on your desk, and proclaiming "look Dave! GOLD!!! Ya just gotta work on it a little! You have an hour! GO!!" And the whole time you know damn well... These guys are frustrating because you have to sit there and watch them get and stay in their own way for (usually) the entire session. If it's not happening, tugging on it as hard as you can for 45 minutes isn't going to change that. Having a drink of water and a little massage might. You pay me to know these things so please, allow me to use this wealth of knowledge to your benefit without you ever being aware of it. You And your dick might be long time buddies, but I am a mechanic who will change your fluids and fix your timing before you even know something's wrong. We've practiced, mmmkay? These guys are also more likely to become exceedingly rough (though well meaning) with a lady. They can't get it up and have cranked their dick raw, so now they've got to move on to your thoroughly shriveled up and dried out from watching this struggle pussy. It's just never bueno. Whether you can get it up or not, trying too hard is rarely to either parties benefit. Relax. She's done this hundreds of times.  
   
 (Disclaimer to the OP, you sound like an option one or a worst two type of guy. I don't see the third group asking these types of questions, lol)  
   
 Obviously, these are general categories and there are nuances to everything. I don't know if you, dear reader, have noticed, but your reaction to the situation has more to do with how we feel/handle it than the actual situation.  
   
 Can't have fun if you don't know ;-)

Even though I've told ladies that it doesn't always happen.
It's a delicate dance, because sure, I want to cum a 2nd time.
But I also just want to enjoy the ride and have fun and not stress about it.
I so admire the "service" attitude of ladies working it so hard (usually going to a BJ after we're both tuckered out from the sex) but if it becomes too much of a frenzied effort and I realize it's not happening, I'll tell her so.  But some do seem disappointed, despite my assurances that it's okay...

I talk about his younger girl I see often (my "art school type") who always gets 2 from me, but always tries for 3, and tries REALLY fkin hard to get that 3rd one, and sometimes she succeeds and sometimes she doesn't, but I always appreciate the effort.

I am sure some do it for the great review, but that's not a bad thing either.

Most girls in this biz are very, very good at customer service and going above and beyond, and those are the gals I like to reward with many (n this girls case, VERY many) repeat visits, dinners and lunches.

Usually this is with girls I'm having a fantastic time with, and really "clicking", great energy between us.  So it really can change the tenor of the whole date if they get a little bummed-out and dissappointed.  BUT... I love their attitude and greatly appreciate that they WANT me to cum so much in the first place!

When a guy can't cum, I don't really see it as a negative or a positive.  Some guys have problems cumming, especially some older gentlemen.  It also happens sometimes if someone is too nervous.  I never take it personally and don't want the guy to feel bad or be embarrassed.  I've seen it all, so there's nothing to be embarrassed about.  What matters to me is that he enjoyed himself regardless and that I did everything I could for him

89Springer985 reads

When I was taking Viagra, one of the side effects was to make it very difficult to come. I just told the lady not to worry about, and that I was enjoying everything whether I came or not. But I also stopped the Viagra.

I've had a few guys tell me that and it always puts me at ease.
I actually have a regular I've seen for over a year. He can cum sometimes (never with CFs, always with bbbj or hj), and sometimes not.  But I still try, and he always tells me he doesn't want me to get worn out. I always say not to worry, I'm fine but sometimes he stops me if it takes too long. He says he just likes my company.  
When guys act like you and him, it's cool. The whole thing of getting super worn out for hella long on a soft cock....not so much the way to go lol

GaGambler851 reads

But I too have a problem finishing sometimes. I can finish at least 80% of the time in the condom if I haven't had sex in the previous several hours, and I don't have half a bottle of tequila in me. lol  but there are those times that I simply can't finish, and truth be told, it's just not a biggie to me.

Sometimes I will "wear out" a lady trying, but never if I lose even a bit of hardness, that just doesn't seem fair to the lady, even if I am paying for the privilege.  Most of the time I will break up the time as if I had finished and instead of trying to go nonstop for an hour and wearing the both of us out. I will go for 15-20 minutes, take a small break the same as I would "between rounds" and then resume the activities once both of us have caught our breath.

OTOH, there are those rare women who actually like extended fuck fests, and who don't mind going at it for an hour or more without a break. Damn, I love those women, but they are the exception, not the rule.

89Springer753 reads

It doesn't go soft with the meds. It just becomes more difficult to have an orgasm. It's pretty common with Viagra (even though the manufacturer won't admit it), which is why I went to something else.

Another factor is that the nerves become less sensitive as we (men and women) age. There's not the feeling there that there was in the teens. The visual then becomes as important as the physical, which may explain why I keep seeking out 20-something's.  

I hate this shit.

UrMomsBox655 reads

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