...I get a decent amount of business from P411/Date-Check guys and various board lurkers who don't review, I get found through internet searches (a lot of those guys are not reviewers either) etc. It doesn't matter what you believe ... is what it is
There are good reasons to persist, whether you're trying to get a job, get a woman to go out with you, making the next level in a video game or climbing up to the top of K2. Many times, but not all, persistence will be rewarded with what one is after. It's a great feeling.
In this hobby, I wanted to meet a lady who had closed her client list, but after a year, and a few emails, she accepted me. I was very happy! I feel certain that part of what helped me was that I was nice and we had exchanged friendly emails before she informed me that her client list was closed.
To the guys: how long do you persist in trying to see a provider that is hard to get a hold of? If she stated that she doesn't want to see you (for whatever reason), do you move on or do you keep trying, thinking that persistence will pay off?
To the ladies: how much persistence is too much? Maybe you're super busy or aren't always the best at organizing. I can see how a guy being persistent might be flattering. However, if you've declined to meet a guy for your reasons and he keeps trying, how have you dealt with it? We all all know how some people can't take "no" for an answer.
Happy new year.
Have you no self-esteem?
Chasing gals who are getting paid to fuck guys is pathetic. If she said no...move along.
But your persistence did indeed pay off...ask her if all her SD's bailed at the same time. I'll bet they did LOL
Congrats...you earned the privilege to pay...and to beg. What a combination 
In this hobby, I wanted to meet a lady who had closed her client list, but after a year, and a few emails, she accepted me. I was very happy! I feel certain that part of what helped me was that I was nice and we had exchanged friendly emails before she informed me that her client list was closed.
To the guys: how long do you persist in trying to see a provider that is hard to get a hold of? If she stated that she doesn't want to see you (for whatever reason), do you move on or do you keep trying, thinking that persistence will pay off?
To the ladies: how much persistence is too much? Maybe you're super busy or aren't always the best at organizing. I can see how a guy being persistent might be flattering. However, if you've declined to meet a guy for your reasons and he keeps trying, how have you dealt with it? We all all know how some people can't take "no" for an answer.
Happy new year.
I will beg for pussy and I will pay for pussy.
But I will not beg to pay for pussy.
Words to live by.
The post wasn't inspired about my experience, but I did include a personal example.
Thank you for taking the time to post a thoughtful reply
There are one or two traveling gals I always wanted to see, but never could interest them in coming up to the Boston area. Now they've retired so it won't be.
If a gal is just being ornery and hard to get, I'd move on.
Lots of fishies in the sea.
(And some let you carry their eggs in your mouth if you don't eat for 30 deys. 8o)
My persistence lasts all of two email attempts. I measure "persistence" in hours or days, you measure it in years or whenever Haley's comet comes chugging around the bend.
Fk dude...GET A LIFE...and this is coming from someone who doesn't have one, so who better to tell you you don't as well?
I make my pitch. I feel I have a lot of the right things to offer (specifically cleanliness, reliability, safety good money, and great references). If she's not interested that's fine, and her right, as last I looked there were about 12,000 providers listed on P411 so chances are someone out there will want to connect. I don't get a lot of 'no replys' fortunately but for the ones I do, I forget them almost as fast as they forget the pm I sent them.
That said, I don't reach out a lot these days as I'm pleased with what I have. But retirements and the sometimes inevitable drifting of a P4P relationship does cause me to get back in the game from time to time.
-- Modified on 1/8/2015 4:05:52 PM
on p411, it would seem off to get hyper focused on one that says no. I know for me when they are too persistant, I get suspicious, If i am not available, and no ads are up , yet this guy is calling daily, I wonder , why doesnt he just call some one similiar to my ratings and looks, of which there are tons,,
Then schedule on a day i can actually make it, but go see another similiar provider in mean time that can accomoadate, I had one guy call me 5 times a wekk for 2 weeks and I d suggest a date n time I WAS WORKING... No chance he only wants last minute when he can swing it,
rather than glance at my schedule and try and call when i am working so we can actually link up, he d call out the blue . Alot them do that they dont read the ad just call.
I posted last monday and one guy leaves a voicemail about an outcall for a fetish, I clearly stated outcall wont be til later in week, Then when i return the call when I am avl for outcall they get annoyyed.
even though if theyd read they ad they wouldve known, ok she is doin incall only tonight, I can call her on wed for outcalls.
Then another guy was calling saying he wants north shore. I was like why not search north shore ads on back page? My clearly stated down town....
I think some just are gettin blue balls and cant think clearly when they call . or maybe they cant read ...at all..................
Nothing irks me more than someone who doesn't understand the word NO! Rejection for whatever reason is a part or life it's how you deal with being rejected that makes you a better person. IF the door gets closed, move on, it may not be for you.
I screen thoroughly and also rely on my gut feeling in this line of work. Someone who sends me red flags I nicely decline meeting because I am not going to take advantage of his money or his experience if we can't understand each other in the initial conversation. IF I tell him I don't think we are a match or please don't contact me again, I do mean it!
Persistence in this context, a business that is so intimate and illegal sounds creepy and coercive. I don't dig it and no amount of money or begging will replace my gut telling me NO the first time.
You should consider saying "yes" every once in a while or is it that your customer base is saying "NO"?
Thank you for minding my business! Lol!!! I keep plenty busy in my area and it's not up to me to press out my wonderful gents for reviews, whether they are a new client or repeat, you guys do what you want anyway. IF my reviews bother you or if I were such a horrible provider don't you think someone would have pulled my plug on sucking and fucking for cash by now??? And everyone is quiet...
-- Modified on 1/8/2015 8:50:51 PM
Look at the market that she is in. She should have plenty of reviews and traffic. She has ads and throws herself out there on threads. Obviously the both of you are not starving, but lets not insult my intelligence or diminish yours.
DO you want to check my pussy meter to verify what??? You can always backchannel and PM my reviewers and ask them if they've fucked me... Whether I chose to have 1 or 40 clients in a month, does that mean I am more or less of a provider??? I am not getting your point.
Stranger things do happen and yes, I try remain current in my market, yes I do take appointments, and yes my guys, new or old, have NOT said anything new about me to TER. AND FYI, a majority, if not ALL of my business comes from TER, I don't advertise anywhere else. There are more guys here that don't review and don't post, they just lurk or have VIP and find out about the ladies they want and take the plunge happily and don't get involved in board melodrama. Sorry your view of the escorting world is so limited and incorrect...
When in the DC area, feel free to look me up, pass my screening, make and pay for an appointment and give your feedback to the TER community. In the meantime, you are just a pesky alias crying loud but ain't saying nothin...
Even you got it because you answered it. Yes, I do go to DC but I don't see fat girls (not even free civvies) so you will never have the pleasure of my company. OTOH, for a dinner ONLY you can send me $500 and I will dine with you for an hour.
While I am oddly attracted to assholes, your attempt to go out of the way to try and attack me and get all up in my business was genuinely NOT sexy. You made your point to say you would not be interested in me based on your perception of attraction, fine, but why are you interested in how I keep busy and where my recent clients reviews of me are??? Hmmmm. Something I've said must've gotten your dick hard, I couldn't see keeping a thread pissing contest going with someone I could give two shits about anyways. Unless you are truly that unhappy and need to get laid... I am assuming that is more than likely your issue...
Carry on...
-- Modified on 1/9/2015 9:56:45 AM
I am not selling my body, so I don't need to resort to such measures, but perhaps you should give it a try. As far as you getting my dick hard, I may as well dip it in a bucket of ice. Same effect.
Thanks for playing. I will conclude this branch before the manager comes in.
...I get a decent amount of business from P411/Date-Check guys and various board lurkers who don't review, I get found through internet searches (a lot of those guys are not reviewers either) etc. It doesn't matter what you believe ... is what it is
I don't know why this concept is so foreign to some guys. Not every guy likes to kiss & tell
I've had a woman tell me she wouldn't see me simply because I post on the boards. I respected that and never contacted her again, nor will I.
I've had situations where a woman didn't respond to my email. I'll give it a day or so, and followup with another email, phone call or PM. If no response, I'm done. Funny... one gal I like quite a bit PM'd me a year after I had given up on her for not responding; we struck up a conversation and wound up having a great time.
If we simply can't make schedules mesh for a particular date and she expresses a desire for me to contact her again, I likely will. If she doesn't open that "door" in some way, I am much less likely to reach out again. Same goes for cancellations... I've had a few and in each case we rescheduled, no pursuit required.
I presume pursuit on either side of the coin can be annoying or flattering, depending upon many things.
3 trys, then move on if your scheduals cant mesh
Not. Begging is unbecoming of a hobbyist who has been around as long as you have.
I don't care if the guy is a newbie or has been around for decades.
Begging someone for a fuck is just the epitome of pathetic.
Absolutely. C'mon. All it takes is money, being clean, and being respectful. And have enough self respect to keep looking if at first you don't succeed. Challenge yourself to find someone even better than the one who doesn't call you back. They're not that hard to find.
Begging someone for a fuck is just the epitome of pathetic.
-- Modified on 1/8/2015 11:22:58 PM
As inicky pointed out above, begging to fuck is just fine. It's begging to pay to fuck that is pathetic.
Begging someone for a fuck is just the epitome of pathetic.
This is a good question. I have to say, I think persistence can often be confused with stalking. I don't mean for this to sound harsh, but if a man keeps sending me emails to meet and I have not answered there is one of two reasons.
1. i did not find him to be an appropriate match ( although I would tell him gently)
2. I am busy
on the later, I will get in touch as soon as able. If after a week if a gentleman reaches out again, I find that fine, but if I get many emails red flags go up.
Remember, there are many girls, just because a match isn't made doesn't mean anything bad, it might just be the provider isn't feeling it for some reason and you should try again after an appropriate period of time and then move on and find someone else.
Hope this is another point of view for yo
She has my email, she'll get back to me if she wants my business. I sure as hell would never attempt to contact her again if she stated she did not want to see me, that's insanity, and if I don't hear back at all I'm not offended, this is not dating. After all, I met my ATF when something else fell through and I took a chance on the girl with one review that the agency had available...in that instance, moving on paid off big time.
Typically I would just move on. One was hot enough and had a pile of outstanding reviews. I would not try to contact her daily or even weekly. Maybe once a month. Usually when I couldn't set something else up. One night I texted her thinking this is a waste of time and BAM she got right back to me. After meeting her she revealed that was part of her process(for whatever reason). I have seen her several times since and she always responds quickly when I contact her now that I am a known quantity. If she had ever told me she wasn't interested then I would have dropped it.
-- Modified on 1/8/2015 1:34:49 PM
i send a request. If I don't get a response I try again the following month. If I don't get a response the 2nd time I move on to someone else.
In this hobby, I wanted to meet a lady who had closed her client list, but after a year, and a few emails, she accepted me. I was very happy! I feel certain that part of what helped me was that I was nice and we had exchanged friendly emails before she informed me that her client list was closed.
To the guys: how long do you persist in trying to see a provider that is hard to get a hold of? If she stated that she doesn't want to see you (for whatever reason), do you move on or do you keep trying, thinking that persistence will pay off?
To the ladies: how much persistence is too much? Maybe you're super busy or aren't always the best at organizing. I can see how a guy being persistent might be flattering. However, if you've declined to meet a guy for your reasons and he keeps trying, how have you dealt with it? We all all know how some people can't take "no" for an answer.
Happy new year.