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Sorry but I am not going to let you be such a bald faced liar!
AverageEverydayJoe 924 reads
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Berger - I don't really know (nor do I care) what your issue is with me.  I have been a member of TER for many years.  I want to address your claims in a public forum.  You made two points that I would like to respond to:

First - Aliases - They were created for us hobbyists who DONT want to suffer the WRATH of sharing our personal opinions or giving a negative review.  I mean in a lot of ways anyone with a handle here is alias.  Its just that I use my alias for my true honest opinions and my other handle to get dates.  I do not believe I am above any guidelines however I do feel I have every right to voice my opinions - whether you or anyone likes it - I have that right as a paying member.  and NEVER have I ever abused that right.  In fact you are proving my use of alias as I am suffering the wrath of expressing my opinion by you and your friend Goldie (and who ever else she or you can get to make stuff up).

Second - Threats - SERIOUSLY?  You sent me an email yesterday and said "Are you threatening me"? and I responded "NO".  How on Gods green earth is that a threat when I expressly say NO?  Because you don't like my emoticon of a smiley face and you see that as a threat?  REALLY?
I want to also UNDERSCORE that I HAVE NEVER PHYSICALLY threatened anyone.  NEVER and without any shade of doubt - EVER.  I would never do that.  EVER!

My last point is this - TER has a database where they store PM information.  I am quite sure that if I ever threatened anyone including you, they would have a very accurate record of it and I would expect any member who threatens another to be banned.  TER - please - look into my PM history and you will clearly see that I said I was NOT threatening Berger.  Now it seems to me that you are being the aggressor here in this case because you didn't like my opinion which I am entitled to - as you are.

Joe

RJBerger1194 reads

As many of you who have been on TER for many years know that the original intent of TER was to provide a safe haven for hobbyists and providers to connect in a safe environment. When the alias program was started it was NOT intended as a tool for hobbyists to threaten or harass providers or for that matter other like minded hobbyists.Sadly as you may be aware one hobbyist has taken it upon himself to be the black sheep and unwilling to have open friendly discussions regarding the hobby as this board was intended. I am speaking with regard to Averageeverydayjoe it is clear for whatever reason he sees himself as above the guidelines, policies and everyone else and is openly bashing, hurting and threatening anyone he sees fit via posts. PM's and email. Afterwards he is openly bragging about it and how no one can stop him because he is only "playing the game". He clearly thinks this is funny but this is way beyond humor and seriously sick.

I and my family were the most recent recipient of threats sent by him to personally harm and slander me, my family and my reputation - though he did use the happy face emoji while threatening me I take this seriously. Since posting on the most recent thread Why Is It So Slow by AnnMarie I have received many messages from other providers who have also been threatened both personally and physically (one that is so vile and disgusting I hesitate to let anyone read it) which I believe has crossed the line and I have filed a formal complaint with TER. I no longer feel safe participating on this board nor do I feel that the women are safe while he continues to be a member here. Unfortunately we now live in a society when someone threatens your life the law requires you to protect yourself and report it. None of us really know what kind of mental state Averageeverydayjoe is in but I believe for the safety of our community one of us needs to speak up and be proactive about someone with so many issues. Before something really serious happens to one of us.

If you have been threatened or know any other provider or hobbyist for that matter who has been the victim to any threats of any kind (implied, with intent of injury or malice) by Averageeverydayjoe or his other accounts please PM me the details or a copy of the message(s) so I can include them with the others.TER has communicated to me that they take these threats very seriously and would like to resolve this issue quickly. Thank you for your help and cooperation in dealing with this matter.

RJ

AverageEverydayJoe925 reads

Berger - I don't really know (nor do I care) what your issue is with me.  I have been a member of TER for many years.  I want to address your claims in a public forum.  You made two points that I would like to respond to:

First - Aliases - They were created for us hobbyists who DONT want to suffer the WRATH of sharing our personal opinions or giving a negative review.  I mean in a lot of ways anyone with a handle here is alias.  Its just that I use my alias for my true honest opinions and my other handle to get dates.  I do not believe I am above any guidelines however I do feel I have every right to voice my opinions - whether you or anyone likes it - I have that right as a paying member.  and NEVER have I ever abused that right.  In fact you are proving my use of alias as I am suffering the wrath of expressing my opinion by you and your friend Goldie (and who ever else she or you can get to make stuff up).

Second - Threats - SERIOUSLY?  You sent me an email yesterday and said "Are you threatening me"? and I responded "NO".  How on Gods green earth is that a threat when I expressly say NO?  Because you don't like my emoticon of a smiley face and you see that as a threat?  REALLY?
I want to also UNDERSCORE that I HAVE NEVER PHYSICALLY threatened anyone.  NEVER and without any shade of doubt - EVER.  I would never do that.  EVER!

My last point is this - TER has a database where they store PM information.  I am quite sure that if I ever threatened anyone including you, they would have a very accurate record of it and I would expect any member who threatens another to be banned.  TER - please - look into my PM history and you will clearly see that I said I was NOT threatening Berger.  Now it seems to me that you are being the aggressor here in this case because you didn't like my opinion which I am entitled to - as you are.

Joe

seat6d637 reads

And you have ruined some girls careers and plotted their assault and rape.

You are a low life.  

Glad RJ called you out.

...that this board is still one the best on TER. Generally, it is pretty tame compared to others. I think everyone needs to remember that it is an F board where some very heathly connection/fits and and friendships are born.  

Some of the remarks that the gals have said here have drawn me in. Some of the attitudes that are convyed through their comments have drawn me in. Some of the common interests that they have mentioned on this board have drawn me in.

Conversely, I have been pulled away by remarks by some ladies.

I personally think the alias thing should go away. The one alias "lady" that bashed on me; I knew who it was. As for guys that do it to me, I could care less. I am not here to F them. Using an alias seems so weak to me and almost un American.

So what needs to happen is a climate where women can state their opinions and likes and dislikes without bad vibes being sent back at them. Too bad, that never happens. There is always at least one person that stirs the pot.

What I have noticed is the more seasoned providers don't post much. They have probably realized that it is not in their best interest. A shame, really.

Also remember that many providers rely on nice internet banter because they are fully sourced through providing. It can be upsetting to them to read negative remarks on the regional boards.

It's an F board people. I think if the women are scared to post, then neither of hobbyists or providers benefit.

I have good friend that was a SEAL team commander and he also has a master's in computer science. If anyone tries to fuck with me, he will figure out who you are behind your alias and come knocking on your door. Befriend someone in LE (as weird as that sounds). I know many of the gals have detectives and cops numbers on their phone.

Nobody should have to put up with any threats if they have done nothing wrong.

Posted By: RJBerger
As many of you who have been on TER for many years know that the original intent of TER was to provide a safe haven for hobbyists and providers to connect in a safe environment. When the alias program was started it was NOT intended as a tool for hobbyists to threaten or harass providers or for that matter other like minded hobbyists.Sadly as you may be aware one hobbyist has taken it upon himself to be the black sheep and unwilling to have open friendly discussions regarding the hobby as this board was intended. I am speaking with regard to Averageeverydayjoe it is clear for whatever reason he sees himself as above the guidelines, policies and everyone else and is openly bashing, hurting and threatening anyone he sees fit via posts. PM's and email. Afterwards he is openly bragging about it and how no one can stop him because he is only "playing the game". He clearly thinks this is funny but this is way beyond humor and seriously sick.  
   
 I and my family were the most recent recipient of threats sent by him to personally harm and slander me, my family and my reputation - though he did use the happy face emoji while threatening me I take this seriously. Since posting on the most recent thread Why Is It So Slow by AnnMarie I have received many messages from other providers who have also been threatened both personally and physically (one that is so vile and disgusting I hesitate to let anyone read it) which I believe has crossed the line and I have filed a formal complaint with TER. I no longer feel safe participating on this board nor do I feel that the women are safe while he continues to be a member here. Unfortunately we now live in a society when someone threatens your life the law requires you to protect yourself and report it. None of us really know what kind of mental state Averageeverydayjoe is in but I believe for the safety of our community one of us needs to speak up and be proactive about someone with so many issues. Before something really serious happens to one of us.  
   
 If you have been threatened or know any other provider or hobbyist for that matter who has been the victim to any threats of any kind (implied, with intent of injury or malice) by Averageeverydayjoe or his other accounts please PM me the details or a copy of the message(s) so I can include them with the others.TER has communicated to me that they take these threats very seriously and would like to resolve this issue quickly. Thank you for your help and cooperation in dealing with this matter.  
   
 RJ

I agree with a lot of what you said, but,  nobody should have to put up with threats, including Navy seal computer science friends.    I always thought the point of this board was to help weed out the good girls from the bad girls. This board after all really is just  a collection of words.  As long as no one is outing someone's personnel life, or causing physical harm, we all should be able to grin and bare it. (Pun intended) as within those guidelines, words are harmless.  As we men are bafoons, we will some how some way find a way to screw things up, including this board.  We NEED the women here to feel free to express opinions,  and keep us straight.  After all, their time here is off the clock, and they are thus not required to be feeding our fantasies while writing here.
 

Posted By: Todd Kavonic
...that this board is still one the best on TER. Generally, it is pretty tame compared to others. I think everyone needs to remember that it is an F board where some very heathly connection/fits and and friendships are born.  
   
 Some of the remarks that the gals have said here have drawn me in. Some of the attitudes that are convyed through their comments have drawn me in. Some of the common interests that they have mentioned on this board have drawn me in.  
   
 Conversely, I have been pulled away by remarks by some ladies.  
   
 I personally think the alias thing should go away. The one alias "lady" that bashed on me; I knew who it was. As for guys that do it to me, I could care less. I am not here to F them. Using an alias seems so weak to me and almost un American.  
   
 So what needs to happen is a climate where women can state their opinions and likes and dislikes without bad vibes being sent back at them. Too bad, that never happens. There is always at least one person that stirs the pot.  
   
 What I have noticed is the more seasoned providers don't post much. They have probably realized that it is not in their best interest. A shame, really.  
   
 Also remember that many providers rely on nice internet banter because they are fully sourced through providing. It can be upsetting to them to read negative remarks on the regional boards.  
   
 It's an F board people. I think if the women are scared to post, then neither of hobbyists or providers benefit.  
   
 I have good friend that was a SEAL team commander and he also has a master's in computer science. If anyone tries to fuck with me, he will figure out who you are behind your alias and come knocking on your door. Befriend someone in LE (as weird as that sounds). I know many of the gals have detectives and cops numbers on their phone.  
   
 Nobody should have to put up with any threats if they have done nothing wrong.  
   
Posted By: RJBerger
As many of you who have been on TER for many years know that the original intent of TER was to provide a safe haven for hobbyists and providers to connect in a safe environment. When the alias program was started it was NOT intended as a tool for hobbyists to threaten or harass providers or for that matter other like minded hobbyists.Sadly as you may be aware one hobbyist has taken it upon himself to be the black sheep and unwilling to have open friendly discussions regarding the hobby as this board was intended. I am speaking with regard to Averageeverydayjoe it is clear for whatever reason he sees himself as above the guidelines, policies and everyone else and is openly bashing, hurting and threatening anyone he sees fit via posts. PM's and email. Afterwards he is openly bragging about it and how no one can stop him because he is only "playing the game". He clearly thinks this is funny but this is way beyond humor and seriously sick.  
     
  I and my family were the most recent recipient of threats sent by him to personally harm and slander me, my family and my reputation - though he did use the happy face emoji while threatening me I take this seriously. Since posting on the most recent thread Why Is It So Slow by AnnMarie I have received many messages from other providers who have also been threatened both personally and physically (one that is so vile and disgusting I hesitate to let anyone read it) which I believe has crossed the line and I have filed a formal complaint with TER. I no longer feel safe participating on this board nor do I feel that the women are safe while he continues to be a member here. Unfortunately we now live in a society when someone threatens your life the law requires you to protect yourself and report it. None of us really know what kind of mental state Averageeverydayjoe is in but I believe for the safety of our community one of us needs to speak up and be proactive about someone with so many issues. Before something really serious happens to one of us.  
     
  If you have been threatened or know any other provider or hobbyist for that matter who has been the victim to any threats of any kind (implied, with intent of injury or malice) by Averageeverydayjoe or his other accounts please PM me the details or a copy of the message(s) so I can include them with the others.TER has communicated to me that they take these threats very seriously and would like to resolve this issue quickly. Thank you for your help and cooperation in dealing with this matter.  
     
  RJ

Scorpion872580 reads

AverageEverydayJoe is anything BUT what his handle implies. He posts lies about providers he has never met and blatantly attempts to destroy their businesses. Members should not believe a single word he posts. End of story. IMO he is a sick individual who will get his jollies even from this thread. TER knows who he is, and I would be surprised if they can find a single provider he has ever met or reviewed.

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