This topic is about manual clit manipulation and stimulation (No oral). For the longest time I was so lost when it came to isolating and stimulating a woman's pleasure center. First, I would isolate it and within seconds, well before I could work it, it would go back into hiding. Once I got past that, came a wide range of techniques that worked for some while killed the mood for others.
I firmly believe that stimulating a clit properly, without tongue or toys is one of sex's most complex tasks. My question to the providers is the following: What are some techniques that will push you over the edge. Please no answers like having it rubbed. Please go in detail, like after a climax to gently be massaged around it in a circular motion with soapy fingers while standing in the shower. Also, please share some info on dislikes that guys do that ruin the mood.
808
-- Modified on 12/4/2014 5:33:16 PM
Is definitely an issue, I'm hooded and when I masturbate I wet my fingers and pull the hood back but I know when I'm becoming too sensitive.
The worst is when you're close and the guy starts jackhammering you because you're getting into it. I was on my way there and now I'm done, no climax just pure frustration. Keep the same tempo unless the lady asks you to go harder. I know my body, I've been playing with it longer than you have! 
Don't like a guy going for the gusto in minute 1. I like/need a certain level of arousal BEFORE being touched and I will let my partner know when that is.
I agree to the increasing pressure or speed (unless otherwise asked), can kill it stone dead.
I am referring to real life here, not work.
I have found that when a woman "gets close" I don't really need or want to do much of anything at all where it comes to pressure.
As you said, you have been playing with your body for a LOT longer than I have, I usually just keep the same speed and let the lady push against me as hard or as soft as SHE likes. I also tend to use my lower lip instead of my tongue at times as it's much easier for the woman to push against my lip than my tongue.
The only thing I know for certain when DATY is that every woman is a bit different from the others and trying to do things the same way with every woman is a strategy doomed to failure.
I didn't even read the OP, just the headline.
I guess I just figured it was just another troll post, but the OP is not one of our usual trolls, so my bad.
You became so honest just there... I am moved 
so if you were moved, I am sure it was only a bowel movement. lol
I really shouldn't hold your fathers sins against you, but it's so much fun, I can't help myself. lol
+100. Overstimulation or changing the pace when she appears to be getting close to her climax are almost sure-fire ways to completely ensure she will not get there. And personally, once I cum...I do not like to continue to have stimulation down there...it is just too sensitive. Which is something you'd think guys would REALLY get, because I have rarely every come across a gent who wanted continued stimulation once they have come...most become overly sensitive...just like we do
Posted By: anavictoria
Is definitely an issue, I'm hooded and when I masturbate I wet my fingers and pull the hood back but I know when I'm becoming too sensitive.
The worst is when you're close and the guy starts jackhammering you because you're getting into it. I was on my way there and now I'm done, no climax just pure frustration. Keep the same tempo unless the lady asks you to go harder. I know my body, I've been playing with it longer than you have!
And for some reason that is the hardest thing to get guys to understand about me. Do it and you can guarantee I'm not going to orgasm. Do it more and I'll dislocate your shoulder with my heel.
Steph xoxo
We aren't all wired the same down there and my little joy button needs some pressure not attacking it directly. And I was the same at 19- 20.
My first orgasm ever was an accident. A BF was giving me a back rub sitting on my ass. we were fully clothed BTW. The pressure I felt was delightful. When he kept shifting his weight around it got even better. The next thing I knew I was having spasms, my toes curled and I couldn't breathe. I was having contractions so hard I had to put my hand between my legs. I was 19.
My joy button so extremely sensitive so indirect pressure works fine. I learned how to work a guys face into just the right spot if he's going down on me and it works out just fine. It means I'm highly orgasmic once someone 'gets it' and mine are strong, very strong!
I've notice not all guys like the head of their cocks rubbed or sucked right after they orgasm because they are so sensitive. Same kinda feeling I'm guessing.
So it ain't an age thang bucko!
BTW how was Cali?
Steph
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but it's not just right after O, but right before and during. I am always redirecting ladies' hands and mouths away. I'm just super-sensitive, and I know it's far more than most guys, because I always get the surprised look from ladies as I move their hands down or instruct "more on the shaft."
Who knows what goes on "down there" with all you estrogen types. Smell of fish, fighting the forest & bush, blood every 28 days (well not for you any more. THOSE days are long over. lol), numerous dried sperm from all your johns, etc. Crazy shit for sure. Thank God I am a man. A REAL man too.
Cali is always awesome. Just missed the bad weather as they have been getting slammed with rain lately but they needed it.
with those hot young thangs! with ALL of that going on!
Steph
PS f-you for that period comment!
I am also in the camp of NO direct stimulation. I like indirect stimulation and will never get off from direct stimulation. I am just too sensitive. I love circles AROUND my clit, fast and light pressure with good lubrication (spit or lube). No flicking over the clit either! Just around it in circles. Gets me off so delightfully like clockwork! Direct stimulation actually HURTS me. As in, it's painful. Not a good way to turn me on!
Just ask the lady you're with what she likes. She is a pro and she will be able to tell you!
I actually don't give a fk if hookers cum so there is no need to ask the broad what she likes. I pay for what I LIKE and to tell HER what pleases ME.
You're just as confused in p4p as these love sick johns wondering if Sally the Cocksucker will leave her clients to only suck Mr. Soft Johns dick. lol
When you start paying me sweetie I'll listen to all the bullshit you want to spout about your clit, your hole, your pubes, your shitter, whatever.
Until then my dear, I'm fking in charge.
on the benefits that come from mutual pleasure. There are some things money can NEVER buy...
xoM
*no pms please
Mutual pleasure is not something I pay for. When you go to a restaurant, do you concern yourself with how much the place enjoys YOU?
IRL civie dating is another matter but p4p, since I am the customer and I am paying you (or NOT paying you, as your profile is M.I.A.), can be as selfish as I want it to be.
I was with a porn star a few weeks ago in L.A. She gave all the groans, "Oh Gods" and moans one would expect, but did she cum really? IDK and IDC.
YOU may be missing out from the mutual pleasure honey, but I can def reassure you, I am missing out on nothing.
you'd probably blast her. And some people do care if a restaurant enjoys them. Some pick restaurants that do just that, pick places that enjoy serving them, it's a win win and how the establishment gets regular customers.
Just saying...
as I am likely to start seeing members of the OTHFBC. lol
but I guess it does fill up threads.
My point is that there can be a different level of service that happens when you treat someone as a human being in exchanges of personalized service. You would be hard pressed to convince me that treating someone as a paid servant/worker for the time you are together is getting you the best they have to offer, be it an escort, a nurse, a waitress or any other job that entails personal or intimate care. A good waitress will do her job no matter how considerate I am of her job or not, but I have many examples of having servers go above and beyond because they enjoyed waiting on a table I was at. Do I "care" that my waitress enjoys *me*? No, but I care that she enjoys what she's doing, and do my part in contributing to that, because that will usually reflect on the service I receive.
You get what you give in life...it's the golden rule. Some people don't know what they are missing.
Regards,
xoM
*no pms please
And IMO Jack wants the gals to feel good because when we feel great when we are with a man, we 'perform' better!
Correct?
Steph
I am him but from the hooker perspective. He can come across as a bit of a douche though but in reality I have more in common with him than most of the men here.
Don't you just love it??? lol
Of course the two of you are bursting all those little fantasy bubbles that you hookers create, and these lovelorn "hobbyists" love to live in.
Jack does tend to "say it like it is" the same as you do from the hooker perspective, It's a shame that you two ruin some many carefully crafted fantasylands. lol
We allllll know how much of a man you are, we allll know you are in charge of every session and the hooker does it your way, you know, no boundaries and all.
And I am sure the broads you pay to fuck are okay with the fact that you are paying to use their bodies as a warm masturbation tool...we alllll know this is how you feel about hookers. Nothing you have said is news, but why so mad...red face and all?
I like you Jacko and all this macho posturing is sweet and all but sheesh.
Now go have a drink, it's Friday and then book a hooker and show her who's boss....
I know girls like you
I'm like you in that way.. I call it ticklish.
Once people like us get warmed up?
Watch out!
Tick-tock.
You already understand that what works for one woman doesn’t work for another. And, that’s a good start. After that, whomever you’re with can give you instructions, or you can pay careful attention to her body language (please do), and adjust accordingly. Or both.
But, you’re going to have to ask the woman you’re with. Not the Inet.
And, by-the-by, the way you’re asking this question comes across like you’re looking for spank material. Tell me how you like your clit rubbed…no really, tell me in detail exactly how you like it…...
Posted By: 808transplant
This topic is about manual clit manipulation and stimulation (No oral). For the longest time I was so lost when it came to isolating and stimulating a woman's pleasure center. First, I would isolate it and within seconds, well before I could work it, it would go back into hiding. Once I got past that, came a wide range of techniques that worked for some while killed the mood for others.
I firmly believe that stimulating a clit properly, without tongue or toys is one of sex's most complex tasks. My question to the providers is the following: What are some techniques that will push you over the edge. Please no answers like having it rubbed. Please go in detail, like after a climax to gently be massaged around it in a circular motion with soapy fingers while standing in the shower. Also, please share some info on dislikes that guys do that ruin the mood.
808
-- Modified on 12/4/2014 5:33:16 PM
Spank material? Have you read the reviews? Last i checked they were loaded with spank material. Oh, silly me... Some of us contribute reviews so we have amassed plenty of spankmaterial. Where are yours?
For the record, i was asking so i can maybe try some new technique on the flavor of the day, tomorrow. Oh and maybe i will document it in the reviews so you can please yourself vicariously through my experiences.
Clit stimulation and FIV are some of my favorite things to do BUT only if the lady enjoys it! Be sure to ask and get specifics (clit only, FIV, gentle or more forceful, etc.). I spent some time w/ a very nice young lady while on a biz trip to LA and she really gets into it and was surprised that not all ladies do. As always YMMV so be sure to ASK!
And thus why I'm learning to dine at the Y - which too seems to vary greatly from one lady to the next.
Ah, so many beautiful women and so much to learn...
When I came too quick for her liking with one of my favorite GF's, she would ask me to keep rubbing my softness on her almost there clit, no too fast not too slow, continue the same motion for the glow .
She had better O's than any GF's I pounded .
Posted By: 808transplant
This topic is about manual clit manipulation and stimulation (No oral). For the longest time I was so lost when it came to isolating and stimulating a woman's pleasure center. First, I would isolate it and within seconds, well before I could work it, it would go back into hiding. Once I got past that, came a wide range of techniques that worked for some while killed the mood for others.
I firmly believe that stimulating a clit properly, without tongue or toys is one of sex's most complex tasks. My question to the providers is the following: What are some techniques that will push you over the edge. Please no answers like having it rubbed. Please go in detail, like after a climax to gently be massaged around it in a circular motion with soapy fingers while standing in the shower. Also, please share some info on dislikes that guys do that ruin the mood.
808
-- Modified on 12/4/2014 5:33:16 PM
Please don't attack it lol! It's very sensitive. It likes it soft. I hate when guys try to like isolate it. It hurts! I don't even like it right on the clit. I need it on the hood actually.
It's weird cuz I love to be fucked hard. But it'just different when it cums to the clit. Lol
Regular soap is already really harsh and the clit has incredibly sensitive skin. Rubbing soap in it might be uncomfortable or even painful to her. She might even be in pain the next day 
Don't use soap, but keep your fingertips very wet & slippery.
Some women enjoy the top side of their clit being stimulated more than the bottom. Be mindful that the urethra is very small and close to the bottom of the clit. You'll piss her off and irritate her urethra if you rub there. Don't spread the lips too wide (or up!) and don't pull the hood back. Let her do that for you if she enjoys it. Circles and side to side are great but up & down is annoying IMO. Take it slow. If she says "faster" increase speed slowly. Also faster doesn't mean more pressure, just faster (and vice-versa).
Stay gentle and remember that a woman's idea of "gentle" is MUCH softer, slower & lighter than yours. She'll let you know if she wants more
actually it was soapy circular massage but around it, not directly.
It's not just the clit, all the tissues are very delicate. Soap is irritating. Why do you want to rub soap on pussies so badly? When women masterbate in the shower they usually use water, not soap. *hint* *hint*
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The soap circles was a one time thing and I only did it following the girl's instruction. I have done similar things with lube, saliva and even nuru gel with mixed results. This is a work in progress. As I am sure you can tell that it is great fun for me but I want it to be just as enjoyable for the girl. The last thing I want to do is to kill the mood.
I am not a fan of a guy yanking my lips apart as if he is searching for something. And as far as I am concerned. please do not push the hood up.
Sorry guys but there is such a very small percentage of men that know how to touch a woman it is truly sad. I guess from this post you get an idea of why sometimes we shy away from having your hand down there.
And with some guys it is just fuck it and don't touch it or lick it.
we do not know how to do it, it is because all kinds of women have permitted us to fumble around. I don't mind being told what to do, actually I like it, nobody likes to make an asshole out of himself and I would prefer if my partners at least have a shot at having a good time.
Very true. In this line though I can tell you that I am not concerned about getting off so I don't care to instruct. I just don't want it to hurt. So my "instruction" is to lessen the damage than to get off.
And since you may not know I have a very specific type of guy that I am attracted too and the johns I see don't come close so when there is no attraction I am not able to come.
Have met some that are technically quite good as in nice and gentle.
If ladies throughout a man's life have faked enjoyment or said sex was great when it was mediocre, why would he know differently?
Whether you are a man or a woman, you must give your lover feedback (even if it's just louder moaning) to let them know what you enjoy more and what you enjoy less
So we can discuss these things. Like I said in my opening post, that clit stimulation may be the most complex aspect of sex. I am trying to learn but this is a very tuff subject.
Oh how I LOVE a man that greets me, then excuses himself to the restroom to wash his hands first! If you want to be exploring delicate, sensitive lady-parts, clean hands are important. Some ladies are resistant or avoid this type of play because of post-manual stim fallout (UTI's or BV) because of unclean fingers. Washing hands is a great way to show you care about her comfort and hygiene, which will always get you further...
I'm sure this has been stated above: all women are different, and all have idiosyncrasies about how they like to be touched. That also can change from one day to the next depending on a number of factors (hormones, how much stimulation she's had recently, etc.) If you *really* want to know how a particular female enjoys being touched, start out having her masturbate for you. Watch where she touches herself, the patterns she is using for rubbing, etc. then when you take over, ask her for feedback. "How does this feel?" "Do you like it like this?" "Is this too hard/soft?" "Is this a good spot?" or "Is there a better spot I should be touching?"
Over time, mindful lovers develop a sixth sense about how to read body language from a variety of partners, employing a variety of techniques. Being bi-sexual, and non-monogamous, I have had to learn those things myself. Just because I am a woman doesn't mean all women respond how I would to manual stimulation. Communication is key, but also one must keep a "beginner's mind" to keep the proper perspective with any new lover.
xoM
*no pms please
normally in good shape but I always make sure that I have a manicure a day or two before a session. I figure that if I am going to fumble around, like most men per H+T's reply, at least I will do it with good hands
Aside from the obvious question, "What do you like? Check out an article titled "Owning Pink" in which the following statement
"There are 8000 nerve endings in the clitoris, dedicated exclusively to female pleasure. The penis only has 4000. Who says God didn't take care of us girls?"
Sorry about that. They replaced the article about the vagina and parts thereof.
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