a $300 an hr provider vs a $500-2k an hr provider........
Besides seeing fewer clients and being low volume what are the significant differences if any?
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Is more like doing two things. Fucking a hot woman, and meeting someone 'famous.'
I have banged a porn star myself, and it actually was a very awesome experience - so I could see how they would cost more if they're also great providers.
There ARE NOT $300 ladies and $600 ladies and $1000 ladies. There are $300 clients, $600 clients and $1000 clients. We decide which group of men we feel most comfortable marketing to. Some women feel more comfortable spending time with a $200 client. Some women feel more comfortable spending time with clients who can afford more. You cannot say that the service is better the more you pay. I know there are girls charging $150 that have a menu that would make me blush. I know ladies in the $1000 who have a more limited menu than myself. You also cannot say that the more expensive girls are hotter. There are hot girls in every price range and beauty is so subjective that you can say who is hotter, only who is hotter to you. You also cannot assume that ladies who charge more are lower volume. I know women who charge much more than I do yet they are much busier. I also know that there are plenty of ladies who charge much less than myself and they are happy to see one client a week.
You as a client decide how much you can afford and who you want to see. Are you a $200 client or a $500 client?
Geography being a big one. I think what you said is correct, in a given area. But when comparing rates across geographies, eg NY vs Twin Cities, that needs to be taken into account. You'll find very few providers of ANY menu over 500 an hour in Minnesota. But that's common in NY and other areas. Are the top providers in, say, NY way better than the top providers in MN, given the price difference? I doubt it, although the ladies and their clients in NY may beg to differ.
...rather than what they feel their service is "worth."
To answer your question, I'm a 250-1k client if I think a provider is worth the amount
mentioned above (NYC compared to Arkansas) just about cover all scenerios.
Not bad 
..... not bad at all.
You as a client decide how much you can afford and who you want to see. Are you a $200 client or a $500 client?
It could not be articulated any better! I agree. Price does not 100% reflect worth. The only thing I would add to this comment is that if a lady is going to afford advertisement,wardrobe. quality photos etc . she would have to charge a fair market value to maintain her business unless ofcourse she came into the business independently wealthy or has a sponsor.At the same token a client who spends higher dollar in general would be perceived as discerning in his/her taste but that again is subjective and depending on ones budget . Thats the Beauty of the Biz,there is a variety available for everyone to enjoy.
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Steph xoxo
What I perceive as value will be different than someone else's...
Are the ladies any more beautiful? Maybe... Maybe not... What I perceive as beauty I'm sure is different than yours...
Is the experience any better? Maybe... Maybe not... Again, it depends on one's desires and what he or she is willing to pay to satisfy those desires...
It's really all about marketing... I think what is being sold at the higher price points is status and ego satisfaction...
Just my two centavos.
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Shoes and lingerie. Think Loubies and La Pera instead of Payless and Vic Secret
Sorry....Couldn't resist dawg !!!
I had a dream last night that we traded upton for strasburg hopefully it will come to fruition.
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Brother that's a strike out waiting to happen.
the differences in most cases are simply marketing, gullibility and ego/status.
I know that sounds a bit cynical and critical, but I'd apply the same thinking to most things. I don't need a Rolex to tell time and I don't need to fly to Savile Row to find a great custom suit. I'm just fine with who I am, and I choose not to spend time with folks whose idea of a good time is to compete for bragging rights and status.
What IS important to me, is that I see women that I find attractive and fun, and who seem to genuinely enjoy my company as well. That can happen anywhere, at any time - and all the cash in the world won't make that little "click" happen any more often or any "better".
I have found some of the higher rate providers I have seen are better at making you feel like you 'clicked' with them..
Per the OP, there is a big difference I find in NYC in terms of looks and performance when going from 250 to 500. Here, 250 will get you an AMP an or BP girl. Above 500/hr though, I have found the marginal benefit drop considerably, and difficult to meet my loftier expectations for that rate..
If you find yourself "clicking" better with the higher fee girls then you are probably a higher fee client.
Thought your reply was pretty interesting and insightful....
unless by being "higher priced client" she means a guy who "thinks" by paying more he is getting more, than yes in a Yuppy kind of way she is right.
For the record, Yuppies are/were famous for being shallow, easily manipulated people with no real taste, who always paid "over sticker price" thinking that by doing so they were getting something "better" Trust fund babies are also guilty of this kind of behavior.
I call BULLSHIT!!!
For me, and per the OP, I think it's all relative to where you hobby. Where YOU are, you get to see pretty good quality providers for what it costs to get a BP blow and Go or even AMP rub and tug in NYC... Here, i am a pretty much a 400-500hr client cause that is what it now costs to see a descent provider. When i started, it was 250-400. It's hardly being a yuppie, pretentious, trustafarian who doesn't care what he pays, it's just the cost of an 8/8 or better GFE here, like it or not... That is no Bullshit in the Big Apple.
I only said that $250-400 was the price point for quality in the markets of Dallas, Atlanta and similar cities. In NYC, LV and a couple of other cities that threshold is more like $500-600 hour to be in the so called "sweet spot" In places like Costa Rica the price point is more like a hundred bucks and in Thailand you are grossly over paying at half that.
What Heather said was about being a "higher fee client" as if that somehow makes you superior to the "lower" or "average" fee client, and that most definitely is bullshit, not to mention self serving. "High Fee" of course is a relative term as you quite rightly pointed out.
My issue is not with spending any particular dollar amount to buy/rent pussy, my issue is with guys who overpay and think that by doing so that they are getting something better than the rest of us. I don't really blame the hookers for encouraging this type of thing, anymore than I blame Cristal for charging three times what a similar quality champagne sells for that is not the beneficiary of great marketing. it's a business after all, and it's not the sellers that are dumb, it's the buyers.
To clarify, I have no issues with guys forking over what they have to to get a quality experience, regardless of whether that number is $300 or $600 depending on the market he is in. My issue is about guys grossly overpaying and then trying to convince the rest of us that we are cheap for getting value for our dollar.
decisions, decisions decisions.
I just don't see any trend strong enough to state that "you get what you pay for"
Sometimes a HDH will give elevated service to go along with her high rate, an equal amount of the time, she will consider her time so valuable that she starts guarding it zealously, which of course leads to clock watching. It's rare that I see a woman hot enough to justify paying anything over the usual $250-400 hr rate. I won't say I would NEVER do so, but with all the quality women at that price point, more than I could ever fuck in ten lifetimes, I just don't see the point.
You would think with the greater supply, there would lower rates in NYC, but not necessarily so, at least not for the better ones... To be fair, the costs here are MUCH higher than most cities. Hotel rooms and apartment costs are 2-3x higher than many other cities and the overall cost of living is just higher. Thank Fod for business travel:
A few years ago you almost never saw anyone priced above $500/hr. But in recent months I've seen a large number of women asking $600-$800/hr. I'm not sure why this has happened and hope it will abate.
The only way that NYC rates will abate is when guys decide they won't pay that much. We have a mutual friend who single handedly has probably raised rates a good 10% by his willingness to pay said rates, and not only pay these inflated rates, but post publicly that he feels he is getting a "deal"
You can't blame the women, as sellers they are only good businesswomen by charging as much as the market will bear. As long as you guys in NY continue to patronize these women at these rates, they would be foolish to lower them.
A new plumber in town with little experience soliciting customers, might charge forty bucks for a quick service call for his first few hundred calls, until he gains an abundance of clients and referrals .
Once he becomes popular with a good reputation, he will often raise his price to a couple hundred for a 45 minute service call.
Charging five times more than he did when he was new in town doesn't make him any better at his job , except in the eyes of the Hot Sugar baby he found on BP.
For better or worse, another similarity between providers and plumbers you've never used before, you can't be sure when one of the two will show up with more of a butt crack than you bargained for.
Besides seeing fewer clients and being low volume what are the significant differences if any?
Just saw an ad for a lady that was here 2 weeks ago and she was asking $300. Her new ad was $550. Did she get better looking and get that much betters skills? Nope. She's trying to figure what she can charge.
Then there are the ladies that have their rates go up and down like a yo yo. 400 to 600 to 1000 to 800 to 500. These are all rates one lady claimed she charged in 1 years time.
persoanlly her seeing fewer clients is key. Typically I'm the only client seen in an evening, which means less rushed and don't have that assembly line-type feel. As far as actual services delivered, not much of a difference. I've had very satisfying sessions paying 300 per hour. I guess it all depends what your looking for. Cheers!
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I find it highly amusing the bullshit that guys will convince themselves of.
Yes, some hookers charge exorbitant rates so they can see less clients. Others just want to make 2-3 times as much money and will still see just as many clients as they possibly can, but if the stupid guys want to believe this bullshit, who are we to burst their bubble? lol
What does it matter the difference between provider pricing? The provider is going to set her price to the exact point where she's getting the number, and type of calls she wants. Plus, there are good and bad ones at every level. The same goes for attractiveness, based on what each gentleman considers attractive.
The differences are twofold. The first is whether or not you have money to burn. We all burn at our own level. The second, and most important, is the depth of connection. The deeper the connection, the more value is added to your sessions, causing you to return many times.
I've known some high end ladies who had no clue how to connect. What's the old saying? One and done! But I also had the privilege of knowing the most incredible $200 lady. Each and every gentleman who went to her incall, and there were many, knew that he was valued more than any other gentleman in the world. She did what every good business does, study the needs of the clients, then go way above and beyond what's expected. And I'm not talking about what happened on the bed, where there were few rules. I'm talking about what happened off the bed. Now I've connected more deeply with many other ladies. But no other lady worked harder at taking care of all the needs of her gentlemen. What's the old saying? Thank you, may I have another?
Anyone above $300/hr I see purely on how good they look and how bad I want it, service is usually exceptionally topped out this point along with the occasional outlier on poor service.
But I'm willing to make an exception for 'gifted' talents. I rarely see a provider twice, but this $150/hr lady I did multiple times, even with a limited menu. I was absolutely crushed when she disappeared. She had the ability to let her juices drip non-stop when stimulated. It was complete bliss to get your balls slathered in it while being humped. *tears*