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Honestly Jack...deception is nothing new here
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My attitude here is the same as when I play hockey.  If the ref doesn't see it...it's a non-call  

JLS was simply caught...plain and simple.  I trust she got hit with an unsportswomanlike penalty  ;)

BTW...the gals that I play BDSM generally don't have a separate site as they don't care to advertise this.  Nor do they generally want a review discussing it.  Those that do have a separate site often don't attempt to deceive.  However on TER they don't have two separate pages either.
 
Posted By: JackDunphy
There has been a few major instances of certain ladies marketing different personas at different rates and getting caught doing so. Of course this is nothing new.  
   
 Now I am not referring to a gal who markets herself as gfe and has a separate website for say, bdsm/domme stuff. I get that and those girls will usually cross market the two sites so you know it's the same girl, even if her rates are different.  
   
 There was one recently on the NY board, one a few months ago on the Carolina board, other examples I am sure. One girl explained her situation, why she was doing it and apologized immediately while the other denied denied denied until there was overwhelming evidence she was lying.  
   
 So the question is, just how much of an issue is it for you, both guys and gals here?  
   
 Guys if you paid a much higher rate for the girl and then found out other guys are seeing that girl at a much cheaper rate because she is using two personas, do you care? Would you be pissed?  
   
 Girls, does it piss you off if you know guys are getting hoodwinked?  
   
 

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There has been a few major instances of certain ladies marketing different personas at different rates and getting caught doing so. Of course this is nothing new.  

Now I am not referring to a gal who markets herself as gfe and has a separate website for say, bdsm/domme stuff. I get that and those girls will usually cross market the two sites so you know it's the same girl, even if her rates are different.

There was one recently on the NY board, one a few months ago on the Carolina board, other examples I am sure. One girl explained her situation, why she was doing it and apologized immediately while the other denied denied denied until there was overwhelming evidence she was lying.  

So the question is, just how much of an issue is it for you, both guys and gals here?

Guys if you paid a much higher rate for the girl and then found out other guys are seeing that girl at a much cheaper rate because she is using two personas, do you care? Would you be pissed?  

Girls, does it piss you off if you know guys are getting hoodwinked

My attitude here is the same as when I play hockey.  If the ref doesn't see it...it's a non-call  

JLS was simply caught...plain and simple.  I trust she got hit with an unsportswomanlike penalty  ;)

BTW...the gals that I play BDSM generally don't have a separate site as they don't care to advertise this.  Nor do they generally want a review discussing it.  Those that do have a separate site often don't attempt to deceive.  However on TER they don't have two separate pages either.
 

Posted By: JackDunphy
There has been a few major instances of certain ladies marketing different personas at different rates and getting caught doing so. Of course this is nothing new.  
   
 Now I am not referring to a gal who markets herself as gfe and has a separate website for say, bdsm/domme stuff. I get that and those girls will usually cross market the two sites so you know it's the same girl, even if her rates are different.  
   
 There was one recently on the NY board, one a few months ago on the Carolina board, other examples I am sure. One girl explained her situation, why she was doing it and apologized immediately while the other denied denied denied until there was overwhelming evidence she was lying.  
   
 So the question is, just how much of an issue is it for you, both guys and gals here?  
   
 Guys if you paid a much higher rate for the girl and then found out other guys are seeing that girl at a much cheaper rate because she is using two personas, do you care? Would you be pissed?  
   
 Girls, does it piss you off if you know guys are getting hoodwinked?  
   
 

I recall the Carolina situation. Not the New York.  I am fine with buyer beware when everything is above board, but when efforts are made to create a misdirection play, this is not a business practice that would endear someone to me.

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Corrine was hotter than JLS. Had thicker skin to boot.  

Posted By: JackDunphy
There has been a few major instances of certain ladies marketing different personas at different rates and getting caught doing so. Of course this is nothing new.  
   
 Now I am not referring to a gal who markets herself as gfe and has a separate website for say, bdsm/domme stuff. I get that and those girls will usually cross market the two sites so you know it's the same girl, even if her rates are different.  
   
 There was one recently on the NY board, one a few months ago on the Carolina board, other examples I am sure. One girl explained her situation, why she was doing it and apologized immediately while the other denied denied denied until there was overwhelming evidence she was lying.  
   
 So the question is, just how much of an issue is it for you, both guys and gals here?  
   
 Guys if you paid a much higher rate for the girl and then found out other guys are seeing that girl at a much cheaper rate because she is using two personas, do you care? Would you be pissed?  
   
 Girls, does it piss you off if you know guys are getting hoodwinked?  
   
 

During the transition. I've heard many stories of ladies having to switch personas because other females become obsessed with ruining their income. Very understandable.

Unless it becomes a lot more prevalent I'm not going to worry about it.

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and still is but it has gotten harder. There are lots of products sold under various labels at different price points, but it's the same product. Savvy internet shoppers can figure it out.

but of course, many don't want to figure it out.
I mean, many look down a bit snobbishly on the cheaper brands.  
I'm guessing there are guys in this hobby who look at it the same way, and might avoid ladies under a certain rate, no matter the quality of her reviews.

I've known a couple of girls who started out at one price point using less popular, less costly ad sites.  After a while learning the ropes and gaining confidence, they changed their name, increased the fee and moved to other ad sites with better reputations.  For a while, multiple ads were still active.  I think it's sometimes to keep a foot in a safe zone where they know they got calls and clients before making the total jump to a point where, maybe, no one will call.  

Sometimes, agencies (and, I guess, some indies) use different phone numbers in different ads.  I think that's also for market research:  Which ad (phone number) generates the most calls (customers plus time wasters)?  Which ad (phone number) generates the most actual customers = revenue?  

I'm sure that there are a few more legit (versus deceptive) reasons but most seem to admit to and explain their multiple identities when asked about it.  Just look at the number of Profiles with multiple names

It seems like a creative way to maximize profits.
I'd just hope to visit the cheaper version!
(but having 2 profiles for reviews does seems a bit problematic though, as guys could miss important info from the reviews of the "other" profile).

This just seems like a more blatant illustration that to maximize profits, sticking with exorbitant posted rates isn't always a lady's best strategy.  With negotiation, the settled upon price is only known between the two.  Here, she's actually being bolder, and reaching out to two different markets.  Let me put it this way, if you negotiated down this lady's price from her VIP price to that of her other profile (not knowing the other even existed), what's the real difference?

To answer your question, if she was just a little cagey in denying at first, I wouldn't care, but I suppose if she stuck to her guns well after the point that it was obvious to all, that could indicate a personality defect that I might want to avoid.

But in general, this just doesn't ruffle my feathers that much.  I kinda admire the business savvy of this approach.

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For example, you can go to Saks Fifth Ave and buy a fur coat while be pampered and doted on by their salespeople, or find a factory outlet store in the boonies with the same merchandise where you have to dig through the stock to find it, but save 1/3 or more.

Fancy restaurants have bar menus with the same food as the dining room but 20% less.

It's all about maximizing returns and catering to the most people you can.

If you ask Saks or the restaurant about those less expensive items, they don't lie about it

So, it's not the practice that is at issue but rather the deception.  I can see that.

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