Hey I paid for the hour. I like to enjoy the whole time. Cuddling allows me to continue to feel, smell, be close, massage, cop a feel. Who knows what memories may be made?
I may be realistic, but I don't like carrying a negative load load on my mind. I'm there to enjoy the encounter, and like any encounter, it's open ended.No matter how much you think these hookers enjoy cuddling with fat old men who may be 20 or 30+ years older, it is not true with the vast majority of hookers. Some may be good actresses and that's what they are getting paid for. It is your fantasy, but trust me it is not theirs.
After the love making, do you like to separate and leave your partner, or do you like to linger and cuddle?
Now, instead of it depends on the situation type of answer, if you leaned to doing one or the other, what would it be?
(As far as after the loving, I do like to hold a woman and cuddle. I like some intimacy.
Then hopefully more arousal for continued mutual pleasure 
. Cuddling, kissing, talking and caressing can be quite the aphrodisiac. We rush with everything else we do it seems in our lives, don't rush intimacy
which sure, could involve some cuddling. If we really get along great and share some laughs, etc., it makes round 2 that much more electric.
Imagine my joy when I found this. It was back when I used to frequent that swamp called the P&R Board. I wanted to respond to a toxic clown who called himself Laffy. So I looked at his two reviews and they said he liked to cuddle. I imagined a character called "The Cuddler," googled it and this is what I found.
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I don't believe in rushing the client out even if its a wham bam thank you maam. I want you to feel as comfortable as possible. After we are done I like to offer you water shower or a cuddle if you or even enough time to get your mind around what just happen because believe me it would be mind blowing. I never book to a point where you have to hurry and go after the act because I want both of us to enjoy each other and hopefully make fantasies for our next visit...
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My experience is, providers like to cuddle with me.
So if we have a connection, then I don't mind.
The more sensual and passionate you are, the sex is just better!
But in the business, I've probably done that with one or two gals out of the 100s that I've fucked...
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and if you think they are making love to you, you are one confused puppy.
When the deed is done I may stay for some conversation, but I don't need to have my hand held or to nestle in a hooker's neck. Does that answer the question?
They are still woman and if you knew how to handle your business.
I don't think you would have made this comment.
So most ladies enjoy to be cuddled or the sensual part between sex.
It does not matter, if it's inside or outside this hobby.
If I want a woman to be passionate, I will make sure she is happy too!
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Don't ever forget that.
No matter how much you think these hookers enjoy cuddling with fat old men who may be 20 or 30+ years older, it is not true with the vast majority of hookers. Some may be good actresses and that's what they are getting paid for. It is your fantasy, but trust me it is not theirs.
You sound so jaded with this hobby and probably life in general.
So nothing you describe, in your so called comeback is me.
I just know my strengths and whether I pay for sex or not, the woman always leave happy!
Thanks for the laughs, this morning and I will say it again.
It sounds like you need to handle your business a lot better in the bedroom.
When you think they are happy to cuddle with your fat ass, then you have a problem with reality. And they always leave happy? I suppose that you also think that you give all of them the big "O". Sure, they are happy once you depart and they count your envelope.
Don't kid yourself.
My nickname does not come from my weight and yes money is important in this hobby.
It's important to me too, when working myself at my job.
I know how to work with my tools and have a good time.
Plus are you ready for this smart ass, I make sure she has cums and is happy too!
Why because it's easy for me and I know what to do for a woman.
If she wants to cuddle or lay on my chest for a while, so be it.
I know one thing, it will not be a one sided deal either.
You sound like a bitter man, who is in this hobby to feel better about himself.
I do it, because it's fun and have a good time doing it
"You make sure she has cums" I take it that you meant that you "make sure she cums". Here's another dose of reality. It is FAKED in the extreme. You think you made her cum, she's laughing that you bought it. Surely if you are john #4 of the day, you made her have her 16th O. I almost hated to bust that little bubble of yours but you really are clueless and obviously a newbie
Is it because?.................
I will let others be the judge as who had something to say or not or what is stupid or not. Come back to me when you learn the difference between a fake and a real O. Your "tools" mean less then being a tool.
I guess old age is catching up to you, smart ass.
You sound really bitter and resentful!
So I will enjoy my midlife and tools. LOL
and I hardly think that you are much younger then I am if at all. Just keep on thinking that all of those O's are real and that the hookers enjoy their time with you. You wouldn't get a second look from them without an envelope stuffed full of cash.
You are not seeing reality. You are seeing what you are believing. Stop believing and you will see more reality. (premodaya)
We are all different and I don't have the sexual problems you do.
So what do you do, tell me I am fat, we are around the same age, I am not seeing reality? LOL
It's funny you are so stupid.
Why would you assume these things are true, if we never met?
It's because you are insecure about yourself and this is why you are saying anything.
Just hoping something will stick and like I said before.
You are a bitter old man, who needs to leave this hobby alone.
If you cannot perform anymore, get it taken care of and stop acting like a asshole.
This is not anger, but truth get some help smart ass.
given them pleasure then they did exactly what you paid for.
That's the GFE component of this world.
If they're not oohhing and aahhing properly...increase your time with them. Many like those multi-hour dates and will actually have many many O's. Are they real? Not likely...but if you think they are that is all that matters.
Avoid the ad hominem as it diminishes the value of your retorts.
So what do you do, tell me I am fat, we are around the same age, I am not seeing reality? LOL
It's funny you are so stupid.
Why would you assume these things are true, if we never met?
It's because you are insecure about yourself and this is why you are saying anything.
Just hoping something will stick and like I said before.
You are a bitter old man, who needs to leave this hobby alone.
If you cannot perform anymore, get it taken care of and stop acting like a asshole.
This is not anger, but truth get some help smart ass.
If you hate escorts and refuse to recognize them as real people... maybe it's time to find a new hobby.
There are only a few universal rules in this world. "Don't be an asshole." is one of them. Fuck off.
tw, I looked at your site and don't see what he sees.
I don't fuck ugly hookers. Those six's in appearance that you have are my 3's and 4's. So you fuck off.
AGAIN you take the coward way out.
Guys that are good looking don't tend to act like you do.
What's the cowardly way out, Mr Whitknight? You have a little envelope with no reviews. You are also an alias. Go ahead. If you want to give her some charity, then book her homely ass. Just don't white knight on my time.
I'll write a review.
You are a coward just like I said.
Maybe the two of you have a lot in common like the village people or some rainbow shit.
. It was a simple request. You insulted someone's looks but can't provide your picture so we could compare you with that person.
you are what I said you are.
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you're another C word. i.e., child.
you cant defend your position so you go back to what you THINK is an insult.
FWIW, I'd rather be gay than be you any day
No doubt a few of the hookers you have seen might have come for you, but there are the others that have given you a great performance. And to use a blanket statement like this one "I know what to do for a woman", yeah, you do realize how different we all are right?
So you come and see me, what would you do? Seriously answer that because since you know what to do for a woman, and I am one, you should be able to tell me.
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I asked you to put your money where your mouth is if you think you're that good. How about this concept, you let the lady you are with tell you how good you are. Self back slappers are generally not as good as they think they are.
As for my ad, well I won't be seeing you so what does it matter? I did not make a blanket statement that I am all that when it comes to every trick.
And in reality one is only as good as the last lady the fucked (provided she didn't fake). As for the future ladies, you have no clue.
Hey I paid for the hour. I like to enjoy the whole time. Cuddling allows me to continue to feel, smell, be close, massage, cop a feel. Who knows what memories may be made?
I may be realistic, but I don't like carrying a negative load load on my mind. I'm there to enjoy the encounter, and like any encounter, it's open ended.
No matter how much you think these hookers enjoy cuddling with fat old men who may be 20 or 30+ years older, it is not true with the vast majority of hookers. Some may be good actresses and that's what they are getting paid for. It is your fantasy, but trust me it is not theirs.
I'm beginning to become a real fan of early evening outcall for many reasons but largely because it lets the night flow pretty organically and it takes the wham-bamness out of my hands.
Now sure, I've had my share of dates that have ended with 'oh my, where has the time gone?' at or shortly after the agreed upon time, and while the encounter was often great it's clear that it was pretty arms length. I got what I wanted and so did she - there were no illusions.
But there have been some evenings which lingered on well into the OTC zone, including a couple that drifted into the next morning (all with someone I knew pretty well), comfortably transcending the ATM model. And while yes, it was OTC time I don't feel like I was being done a 'favor' as while I don't mean to sound arrogant I'm not ashamed to say I feel my OTC time is as valuable as that of the provider I'm seeing. But for those evenings we were both with the person we wanted to share time with, to caress, to fondle, to cuddle with, to dine with, and/or to sleep with as people, and no longer as fantasy participants.
It is not my fantasy and I do it because I am paid to, bottom line, end of story.
We can't fool ourselves, can we?
I think that deep down inside bigguy knows what we are saying is true. He's just not ready to admit it or to be honest with himself
You've read so many of the posts from newbs who are just mesmerized (well...there's guys not so newb too) with the acting and GFE scene.
Bigguy will find out soon enough.
Probably it'll hit him like a ton of bricks when the gal who he gives those 5 HUGE O's to asks for a tip as well. Or reminds him that her "new rate" was XXXX....and he shorted her.
Nothing wrong with drinking the kool-aid....most of the time. Just not if Jim Jones told him to.
I think that deep down inside bigguy knows what we are saying is true. He's just not ready to admit it or to be honest with himself.
Indeed. Someday he will look back and remember this thread after the bricks fall on his head, or he could remain in denial like Turdy was even while getting his testicles pummeled.
Or he would have stopped his nonsense. Getting continuously kicked there is painful...isn't it?
I am being paid to give an experience. It is not real life. It is great money. I can choose who I see and what I do with them. Not bad if you ask me. LOL
I get offered discounts and 'multiple O's' allll night long from the good looking young dudes. As though they're God's gift to hookers. A hooker's dream is a man with money who gives it to her.
Though, just like any job, it's fun to meet different types of people, you try to build groat rapport with them, love to see regular clientele walk through the door... Like an old friend. Until they come in thinking I don't deserve them, or they have saved me from the 'fat old men'. Which look exactly the same to me as the young cocky ones. (Better, actually. Gawd)
I can see how maybe once in a blue moon we can get attached to a guy here, (I am very attracted to older smart guys - always have been - my first was 27 years older than me,) but if we all could just keep seeing this for what it is, this would be much easier.
In the end, I look through my green goggles. Everyone looks the same in P4P. They're all green.
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this is an important point.
The "but i"m good looking, fit, clean of course she likes it" guys or the super ego guys.
I have always thought these types are the MOST delusional. I'm willing to bet those are the ones who see many ladies. So they can, you know, spread their awesomeness to all of the ladies.
Since an escort isnt looking for, or there for, the same experience, the "looks" of a client is irrelevant. It might make it easier for her but I doubt she's counting the days until he contacts her again.
I hate to break it to you bigguy but if I am seeing a grossly out of shape guy older than I like, I am only cuddling because I am being paid to, not because I want to. I am not turned on by out of shape and outright fat anyone, and by far those are my clients.
Outside the hobby I love to make love and cuddle BECAUSE I have chosen the person with whom to do this with and I am attracted to them, there's the huge difference.
How to make me happy is be clean, respectful and pay my fee, apart from that, it's all work.
Maybe we should give it a rest, lol.
this is one reason why I can't be as open to all parts of the sexual experience with an escort.
Thank you! And you win the Survivor challenge as far as I am concerned...LOL
I understand his tone, I use the same one when directed at tricks. It is blunt, it is true it is not popular, but I don't care and by the looks of it neither does Panthera.
How anyone with a functioning brain can fool themselves into believing a good looking woman is attracted, enthralled and turned on by a man that is 20 to 30 years older, out of shape, sometimes down right obese and unattractive who is sweating all over her as he humps her 110 pound body all the while she is trying not to suffocate under his weight. Or the guy who has not washed well and his crotch smells like week old cheese.
That is the harsh reality. All hookers know that it is not always going to be a party or pretty woman. We get paid to look the other way, and smile but make no mistake, hookers are people who have likes, dislikes and in the back of our minds the shit that goes through it would make some of you guys cringe.
And then there are the nice guys and we like them and we want them to return.
the ones who use "truth" to insult others are not altruistic people.
I'm suprised you actually have to endure those encounters you described. I'm sure it sucks for the ones that do.
Why I get it ...because I do the same thing. I am not here to be altruistic, I am here for many other reasons, mostly entertainment.
As a hooker you would be surprised what some of us endure. You just see yourself in the mirror and most guys have a fairly decent opinion of themselves, some deserved, some delusional. This business is not about our needs and whom we are attracted to, we get what we get, and sometimes it is a great and pleasant surprise, more often than not, it's not.
Check out the threads that ask us hookers who we think is sexy. Do hookers show images of old fat men? Nope, hookers show images of what we like and are attracted to. To be a good hooker, you never let the guy know how you really feel. Hookers get paid well to present themselves and the services as if we care and are attracted. Sometimes it is a breeze, other times it is really hard work
If it wasn't I'd book 30 minutes sessions. Even if it's just a few minutes, I also like the intimacy and it's nice to let it end naturally. But do we have to use the word cuddle?
as it's more often than not for me two sweaty/cummy (and maybe oily/gelly depending on what we were doing) people clutching each other, maybe panting (again depends on what we were doing) and enjoying the warmth and feel of our naked bodies pressed together, usually lightly caressing each other all over.
When I think of "cuddling", I think of holding a lady close to me... and maybe watching TV.
I beginning to find the cuddling the most enjoyable part of the entire experience, excepting really great massages, that is.
IMO it's like trying to purchase friendship. I'm not saying I don't enjoy post coital conversation and interaction; but the sense of surrender, solace and intimacy found when cuddling a LTR partner is a bit forced or feigned when several hundred dollars compensation are strictly required.
Now, instead of it depends on the situation type of answer, if you leaned to doing one or the other, what would it be?
(As far as after the loving, I do like to hold a woman and cuddle. I like some intimacy.)
There is a common perception that money negates the true value of things, and in reality this does often play out that way be it in business, the law, politics, etc.
But it needn't be that way.
I think of the money as a tribute or offering to the goddesses who go through a lot in order to bring us their wonderful charms.
Viewed that way, the money is a form of compliment and can form the basis of a very positive relationship.
Of course it is very different than the relationship we build with an SO, but different doesn't mean worse (or better).
We just need to regard these things we do honestly and not build either false hopes nor false negations of the spirit that is so necessary to properly conduct our relationships.
Very well put. I don't think of it so much as money, but what the money will help buy - which is usually something essential such as food, clothing, child care or shelter. Why wouldn't I want to give that to someone if I can afford to, especially after they open themselves up in a far more personal way to give me what is essential, too. Two people taking care of each other's primal needs. It's really pretty simple. Or it can be if we allow it to be so.
But it needn't be that way.
I think of the money as a tribute or offering to the goddesses who go through a lot in order to bring us their wonderful charms.
Viewed that way, the money is a form of compliment and can form the basis of a very positive relationship.
Of course it is very different than the relationship we build with an SO, but different doesn't mean worse (or better).
We just need to regard these things we do honestly and not build either false hopes nor false negations of the spirit that is so necessary to properly conduct our relationships.
What you are describing is the burden of the woman's SO and or father of the woman's child.
Think about that before you call someone stupid as you're a perennial contender for the fucking lifetime achievement award. In fact, I'm not sure I have ever seen a collection of incoherent utterances like the ones you've spewed out here on a regular basis, but I am sure I'll have to revise that as you will surely top yourself in the future.
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That has nothing to do with the fact you are claiming it is the client's responsibility to financially support a provider and her children. Children that are not his BTW.
Why would that be the client's responsibility?
I think you are living in a dream world. You can also drop the Tourette's routine.
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for offering what is my "personal opinion" to an otherwise benign query?
I should have known the hobby's inventor of rose colored glasses would find fault with pragmatic cynicism based on reality and experience.
YOU may "think of the money" as you wish; mrfisher. But neither my auto technician nor ATF offer much solace unless I'm peeling off money in their direction. It is not for lack of humanity or a glaring character flaw in anyone involved; it is simply quid-pro-quo, and my prescription lenses are without tint.
I think of the money as a tribute or offering to the goddesses who go through a lot in order to bring us their wonderful charms.
Viewed that way, the money is a form of compliment and can form the basis of a very positive relationship.
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Wham bam, thanks again.
Force them.
So far, I've only been with two women I felt compelled to do this with.
I really enjoy, after we clean up, when a lady curls up into my arms. I enjoy running my fingers up and down he body with a feather like touch. Almost every woman I've done this with has commented how good it feels, one fell asleep for about 5 minutes, when she awoke she was very apologetic but I told her I took it as a compliment hat she was relaxed enough to do so.
I've been with providers that don't care to snuggle and cuddle too, and that's fine, I can read body language fairly well, I recognise it and I respect that as a boundary.
matters not. I'm not generally wired for Slam Bam.
Of the night in case I need a little TLC from a nightmare lol
I heard he does both!
I was hoping you were gonna say "wake him up in the middle of the night with a BBBJ".
But comforting others is nice too :
THen make him snuggle...
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Perfect!
Then go for the genitals
Rather than easy going Homer Simpson bodied guys like me. Crying women don't turn me on. I always want to just hug em and make em feel better. When they STOP crying is when I get turned on cuz I feel like something has been accomplished. There's no violence in my sex. Well, except for the inherent violence of hard thrusting, which when done at the proper time is more fun than violence. (Hopefully for both parties involved).
While recharging and chatting. Makes for a better time in the long run. Enhances the fantasy.
For some reason, having no idea what you look like and only knowing that you are a woman who likes women that statement made my dick jump and be happy for a moment.
FWIW - Thank you
There are some women that I can not get enough of and then there are those that I want to fuck and move on. It often depends on how much a woman tries to make me feel special.
ending every post with "lol" doesn't absolve you from the fact that your responses are childish.
yeah, exactly like that. 'lol'.
I love myself when I stoop this low. Not.
…for all the comments that answered the question, and even those that didn't, however joyful, angry, or comical, as they are your opinions.
My post was a simple one, based more on preference choice that is directed towards a state of mind and feeling regarding if you like to cuddle and look forward to it as an intimacy after sex compared to just separating after sex. It is not specific to provider, but another partner in general. (For me that partner is a woman.)
But since this is TER which is directed towards clients seeing providers, I suppose anything goes (in most cases) on this board when it comes to interpretations behind the customer and provider contact. I’ll switch gears here: I’m certain most like to hear a good chemistry story compared to a session gone bad, but the reality behind it starts with the Benjamin’s for specified time (easy enough to agree to). Whether or not it becomes something more depends on the individuals involved. Those coming from a place of disappointment and lack of success may have a more negative outlook then those coming from a place of success. Yet, I assume those providers with the numbers behind them have a more well-rounded outlook to it, whether they thrive and truly like what they do or become desensitized to it; that is, they like the $ but go through the motions. Or, those customers who stay with it because of the variety and successes, or that continual search for another success, or seeing one on a regular basis because they know what to expect and like it. I suppose it also depends on the mood and timing as some have stated. It’s not so clear cut and dry to getting what one wants because it also involves different body types and personalities somewhere between the attractive and repulsive. But I have to say this, it is interesting that OTC takes place, as in conversation and doing things together other than just the sex and touch; there can be so much more to it than just the Benjamin’s (at least, this is how I decipher some of the comments). I guess us beings with our emotions are not always so predictable.
I’m too new to this game, yet after seeing my second provider, I have to question, with her experience, that there is so much more to it than just the sex, as there is touch and massage and lotions and toys, and even interesting conversation. Not unlike some of the things one does with a civvie girl, but an experienced provider may have more depth in the bedroom because she is more practiced, and the Benjamin’s got it started. What chemistry that does take place afterwards remains to be seen.
FYI: I was inspired about cuddling from a previous post “Appointments longer than one hour” and for those who like to explore human touch, sensations and more
the OTC is perplexing to me. i've never had that inclination for myself or from a provider who wanted that kind of thing. it feels out of place to me like it doesn't belong as part of the arrangement.
As far as touching, sensations, I'm usually not one to initiate that sort of thing and assume the lady doesn't really want it. So I don't do it.
Speaking of cuddling, there have only been two providers i've seen who actively pursued that during our encounter. One did it because she's a "hugger, touchy feely" type the other just did it to fulfill her GFE duties. Most just get up to clean up after were done.
You said:
the OTC is perplexing to me. i've never had that inclination for myself or from a provider who wanted that kind of thing. it feels out of place to me like it doesn't belong as part of the arrangement.
Response:
Yes, I understand what you’re saying, at least on first encounters in most cases, however after multiple meetings if there is good chemistry that is not only physical but has shared values and interests (along with an established comfort level), then I can see OTC easily happening. Many people are social, so I don’t see it as out of place. Even sales people become friends with their clients. For example, I remember talking to one investor who said that his Realtor was his best friend. Hence, I’m not surprised that OTC was mentioned in this thread, nor in the other thread I've referred to.
You said:
As far as touching, sensations, I'm usually not one to initiate that sort of thing and assume the lady doesn't really want it. So I don't do it.
Response:
First of all, you’re touching your partner to begin with as it’s the nature of the hobby, and it’s physical with sensation. As far as initiating touching (I take it you mean on a more intimate level), it depends on what you want or what you’re open to. There is a certain skill set that is not inane but learned when it comes to not only touch, as in massage, but also in initiating it by asking questions and making suggestions. A more effective provider (in a business sense), will find out what the client wants or does not want, and if the client does not know what he wants, she makes a suggestion. Ideally, it is best for a client to know what he wants, but not necessarily be skilled in message, as he is not the one making the donation.
If time is limited to an hour or less, then go for what you want, like the sex, I take it.
My thinking is beyond the initial choice in sex, doing the other stuff enriches the experience, but it may be best to do past the hour.
You said:
Speaking of cuddling, there have only been two providers i've seen who actively pursued that during our encounter. One did it because she's a "hugger, touchy feely" type the other just did it to fulfill her GFE duties. Most just get up to clean up after were done.
Response:
Seeing more than one provider gives you a sense of variety as no two people are alike. I've only seen two to compare and contrast in this hobby. They are different, of course. Providers also see more than one client and they are different to them. What should remain consistent (in a business sense) when the session is over, it is over.
If that first provider you saw was touchy feely and you wanted something else (as you haven’t made clear on what you’ve wanted?) then ask for something else. If it’s not a good session for you, then chalk it up to experience and move on to someone else. If the other is GFE (again, not enough information here; perhaps no chemistry?*), then she did her job.** You also have that choice to see her or not (Likewise, for the providers to see a client again or not.). Depending on you bank account, you may choose to keep looking until you find someone you’d like to repeat with, or continue to see new ladies on a first time basis.
To recap: Anything that happens beyond a session, as in keeping in contact to OTC is between the two people that decide to continue. There are no rules here, unlike a psychiatrist and patient violation where the psychiatrist will lose her license; there are no licenses to lose in this game.
* On chemistry: I wouldn’t worry about what the provider thinks about you, although if the session felt special, I would look for visual cues and verbal cues to get a better sense of it, along with follow-up if she initiates it (or visa-versa) and it leads to keeping in touch. On-the-other-hand of the chemistry connection, if she claims to be a great actress and has fooled you, then that’s another skill set that works to her benefit. Forget it. But remember, people change their minds and are not always consistent; that chemistry that was initially there and later is not happens more often then we care to accept. (Plenty of divorces and relationship breakups account for it.). So, enjoy the moment for what it is.
**Providers should also know their boundaries and limits before they agree to what’s requested in a session
really put much effort in the encounter. I don't TRY to be a great lover(whatever that means) or find out "what she likes" For me, it's basically a sexual release. Kind of like a massage with benefits. Don't care what they think of me because some are good at faking that so inever really know anyway.
Whatever, I get what I get out of the deal and that's good enough for me.
the OTC is perplexing to me. i've never had that inclination for myself or from a provider who wanted that kind of thing. it feels out of place to me like it doesn't belong as part of the arrangement.
Response:
Yes, I understand what you’re saying, at least on first encounters in most cases, however after multiple meetings if there is good chemistry that is not only physical but has shared values and interests (along with an established comfort level), then I can see OTC easily happening. Many people are social, so I don’t see it as out of place. Even sales people become friends with their clients. For example, I remember talking to one investor who said that his Realtor was his best friend. Hence, I’m not surprised that OTC was mentioned in this thread, nor in the other thread I've referred to.
You said:
As far as touching, sensations, I'm usually not one to initiate that sort of thing and assume the lady doesn't really want it. So I don't do it.
Response:
First of all, you’re touching your partner to begin with as it’s the nature of the hobby, and it’s physical with sensation. As far as initiating touching (I take it you mean on a more intimate level), it depends on what you want or what you’re open to. There is a certain skill set that is not inane but learned when it comes to not only touch, as in massage, but also in initiating it by asking questions and making suggestions. A more effective provider (in a business sense), will find out what the client wants or does not want, and if the client does not know what he wants, she makes a suggestion. Ideally, it is best for a client to know what he wants, but not necessarily be skilled in message, as he is not the one making the donation.
If time is limited to an hour or less, then go for what you want, like the sex, I take it.
My thinking is beyond the initial choice in sex, doing the other stuff enriches the experience, but it may be best to do past the hour.
You said:
Speaking of cuddling, there have only been two providers i've seen who actively pursued that during our encounter. One did it because she's a "hugger, touchy feely" type the other just did it to fulfill her GFE duties. Most just get up to clean up after were done.
Response:
Seeing more than one provider gives you a sense of variety as no two people are alike. I've only seen two to compare and contrast in this hobby. They are different, of course. Providers also see more than one client and they are different to them. What should remain consistent (in a business sense) when the session is over, it is over.
If that first provider you saw was touchy feely and you wanted something else (as you haven’t made clear on what you’ve wanted?) then ask for something else. If it’s not a good session for you, then chalk it up to experience and move on to someone else. If the other is GFE (again, not enough information here; perhaps no chemistry?*), then she did her job.** You also have that choice to see her or not (Likewise, for the providers to see a client again or not.). Depending on you bank account, you may choose to keep looking until you find someone you’d like to repeat with, or continue to see new ladies on a first time basis.
To recap: Anything that happens beyond a session, as in keeping in contact to OTC is between the two people that decide to continue. There are no rules here, unlike a psychiatrist and patient violation where the psychiatrist will lose her license; there are no licenses to lose in this game.
* On chemistry: I wouldn’t worry about what the provider thinks about you, although if the session felt special, I would look for visual cues and verbal cues to get a better sense of it, along with follow-up if she initiates it (or visa-versa) and it leads to keeping in touch. On-the-other-hand of the chemistry connection, if she claims to be a great actress and has fooled you, then that’s another skill set that works to her benefit. Forget it. But remember, people change their minds and are not always consistent; that chemistry that was initially there and later is not happens more often then we care to accept. (Plenty of divorces and relationship breakups account for it.). So, enjoy the moment for what it is.
**Providers should also know their boundaries and limits before they agree to what’s requested in a session.
...simple and go with the flow—there is nothing wrong with that.