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Re: I disagree ...
Todd Kavonic 11 Reviews 406 reads
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I have never had a "bad" in session experience with a provider since joining TER. I have had some horrible aftermath though. My guess is that some of them might have gotten to close. Phone calls from one everyday for 5 months. I think it breached a line.

I was commenting on ads which seem to be repetitive with a huge yawn factor. 95% of providers I have no interest in. I just side on being selective and it has served me well. Most of my decisions have been made by reading reviews and looking at some pictures, not ads.

I've begun to notice how little I READ providers' ads these days.  I usually skim for the essentials:
1) pics
2) donations
3) services offered
Then I head for the reviews.
Does anyone ponder the lengthy paragraphs that some providers produce both on the Ad Board and on their web pages?  And do they help you reach a decision?  I'm not being facetious here.  I'm just wondering if I'm the only superficial browser

If I read another ad with verbiage like "it will be an experience that you will never forget", I am going to hurl. They need to keep it simple. The reviews tell most of it, especially if they come from someone you respect.

Some ads feature huge fantasy stories, but that does not normally happen, so it is a source of disappointment for a hobbyist.  

Ads do little for me anymore. Waste of their time and a waste of mine, IMO.

Posted By: osssieboy
I've begun to notice how little I READ providers' ads these days.  I usually skim for the essentials:  
 1) pics  
 2) donations  
 3) services offered  
 Then I head for the reviews.  
 Does anyone ponder the lengthy paragraphs that some providers produce both on the Ad Board and on their web pages?  And do they help you reach a decision?  I'm not being facetious here.  I'm just wondering if I'm the only superficial browser.  
 

Posted By: osssieboy
I've begun to notice how little I READ providers' ads these days.  I usually skim for the essentials:  
 1) pics  
 2) donations  
 3) services offered  
 Then I head for the reviews.  
 Does anyone ponder the lengthy paragraphs that some providers produce both on the Ad Board and on their web pages?  And do they help you reach a decision?  I'm not being facetious here.  I'm just wondering if I'm the only superficial browser.  
 

I'll read them when it's written in no nonsense english.  A lot of flowery prose is like reading boilerplate, mostly a waste of my time.  If they want to be clear like I have an incall at the beach, or I have convenient parking I'm all ears, if they want to say they are a super exclusive VIP mysterious courtesan who is world traveled I just skim right past.

Pics, donation, services. If those 3 are met I read the details. I do read the details after I make the decision I must say, sometimes finding important information. I recently read in one providers profile she only gave bbbj to circumcised guys. Gentiles received cbj, lmao. I find their FAQ section helpful. When I have to start searching for the big 3, I move on.

I've always noticed this and I've always felt it had to do with the ladies writing the ads as women and us reading them as men. Website design as well. While it may be a gross generalization, the ladies write novels to create mood and atmosphere. We look at pics, service and rate; in that order.  

What astounds me is the vast quantity of ads written like War and Peace with no pic, just a link to the web if we're lucky. And this spans across newbie versus well established, value alternative versus luxury; sometimes they don't grasp that we're visual creatures.  

Does she look amazing?  Will she provide what you expect?  For what?

I have traded some hot "penthouse type stories" with providers via email, but they have been gals that I have been with before. One provider called me up and said she was wet after reading what I wrote. It's a little dicey on their end.  

I think some ladies just like to fantasize about what may occur, they are sluts after all...for the most part.

Just keep it simple from provider's standpoint and let us know a little about themselves. Where they are from, what they like and why they enjoy what they do. The pics have increasing shown how nice they look in the last year or so and are accurate, IMO.  

It's great to know a bit about them from their ads and websites, but I do agree that it goes too far sometimes and is boring and narcissistic.

I don't think what the ladies write comes from narcissism.  It's simply the female approach to our hobby, or even more simply to the male/female experience in general. And I don't discount the power of their words. If the visual is the hook, the words set it?

Perhaps I should have written; looks, menu, rates, prose.

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I found several providers to be narcissistic and vain in session. It goes beyond the ads sometimes. I have also found many to be the opposite in session.

Some of the ad information has drawn me in. A provider in Vegas is a rocker chic, that meant we could see shows together, thus more opportunity for a connection.  

Sometimes we just read the same descriptions over and over and it's boring.

Posted By: NYSt8tofMind
I don't think what the ladies write comes from narcissism.  It's simply the female approach to our hobby, or even more simply to the male/female experience in general. And I don't discount the power of their words. If the visual is the hook, the words set it?  
   
 Perhaps I should have written; looks, menu, rates, prose.  

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we each have our own experiences ... mine have been positive by and large.

I have never had a "bad" in session experience with a provider since joining TER. I have had some horrible aftermath though. My guess is that some of them might have gotten to close. Phone calls from one everyday for 5 months. I think it breached a line.

I was commenting on ads which seem to be repetitive with a huge yawn factor. 95% of providers I have no interest in. I just side on being selective and it has served me well. Most of my decisions have been made by reading reviews and looking at some pictures, not ads.

Can Providers just stop with their phone once they open the door, and until the door closes? Really.  Or, how about they agree to pay back $10 for each time they look at texts, send texts, or take calls, or leave ringer on, or any other unprofessional behavior. Or tell me in advance that you must do this, so I can pass on the experience.  Please read that again so it sinks in: just tell me you cant give up the phone during our session.  No worries, plenty of reasons you may prioritize that way.  I just don't prefer a session like that.
So, ladies, want to get my attention in your ad?  
1.  Promise you will put down the phone from the beginning of the session (that means when we first lay eyes on each other) to the end of the session (that means when I leave, not when I cum.  Orgasm is not the time for you to ignore me and attend to the people who have not been paying you for the past 55 minutes).  
2.  Use common English language, not a bunch of emoticons in your ad title hoping to make it stand out (that makes it standout to me as a provider that likely has a pimp, pass).  
3.  If you are going to lie about your age, lie older.  The younger the provider, the less likely I am to even read the ad.  Young providers typically are the most difficult, least likely to have real pictures, and most likely to leave you less than thrilled about your time.  But, I have had great sessions with young providers, its just less typical.
3.  Don't tell me the services rendered, I understand roughly whats going to happen, and there are no guarantees.  Under promise and over deliver is a good idea.  Word will spread.  BTW,  LE would love for you to spell out your services in your ad though.  
4.  If you want to bait and switch, do so at your own economic and physical peril (not from me).  The old question for you to think about as you are finishing that hour service in 15 minutes and getting dressed is, "Do I feel lucky?" (punk)
5.  Act like you are having a sexy romp, smile, and exude affection and adoration.  I will do the same, and then we will go back to our lives, hopefully with a naughty smile inside.

Yes we *women* understand that  (some) men don't *read* or are simply too lazy too. We get that!  However, with that said.  Women should not be limited to *expressing themselves in writing.* Just to appease those picky lazy men.

Her writing expresses/shows a side of her personality that most men who adore and appreciate women, find attractive & sexy about a woman. And most men want to *hear* what she has to say as those are men who enjoy her mind, body and soul......not just the bcd activities!  Those men get that there's MORE to a woman than just what her body can do.

 
This is not just a review site, nor just a discussion site. It's an ad site. Just like most other hobby boards. And the Ad's are the LADIES way of expressing themselves however they see fit.  So if your going to complain about what she/they write in their ads. Then don't open them!  

 

And in response to this OP's post....

If you don't like all the emoticons in Ads. Then perhaps you ought ask yourself why you chose to open that AD in the first place.  There's a difference in a (session and a date)...  
If your seeing the gals who text and answer phone all the time. Then again, it's whom your attracted to for a SESSION, otherwise you'd read reviews and choose those that respect and enjoy your time BCD.

I'll give you 2 thumbs up, though on the not needing to list activities. As each men are different in soo many ways. And some are looking for a session while others wish to enjoy a memorable date. And no matter how exquisite/well reviewed a lady is....or how sexy and respectful a guy is. Each and every date/or session...is and always will be YMMV/YMWV...
and it's not meant as a bad thing..... rather that's a good thing. Otherwise you get mechanical.......and while some men want that.....well others don't.

 

 

 

Posted By: sayhelloandsmile
Can Providers just stop with their phone once they open the door, and until the door closes? Really.  Or, how about they agree to pay back $10 for each time they look at texts, send texts, or take calls, or leave ringer on, or any other unprofessional behavior. Or tell me in advance that you must do this, so I can pass on the experience.  Please read that again so it sinks in: just tell me you cant give up the phone during our session.  No worries, plenty of reasons you may prioritize that way.  I just don't prefer a session like that.  
 So, ladies, want to get my attention in your ad?  
 1.  Promise you will put down the phone from the beginning of the session (that means when we first lay eyes on each other) to the end of the session (that means when I leave, not when I cum.  Orgasm is not the time for you to ignore me and attend to the people who have not been paying you for the past 55 minutes).    
 2.  Use common English language, not a bunch of emoticons in your ad title hoping to make it stand out (that makes it standout to me as a provider that likely has a pimp, pass).  
 3.  If you are going to lie about your age, lie older.  The younger the provider, the less likely I am to even read the ad.  Young providers typically are the most difficult, least likely to have real pictures, and most likely to leave you less than thrilled about your time.  But, I have had great sessions with young providers, its just less typical.  
 3.  Don't tell me the services rendered, I understand roughly whats going to happen, and there are no guarantees.  Under promise and over deliver is a good idea.  Word will spread.  BTW,  LE would love for you to spell out your services in your ad though.  
 4.  If you want to bait and switch, do so at your own economic and physical peril (not from me).  The old question for you to think about as you are finishing that hour service in 15 minutes and getting dressed is, "Do I feel lucky?" (punk)  
 5.  Act like you are having a sexy romp, smile, and exude affection and adoration.  I will do the same, and then we will go back to our lives, hopefully with a naughty smile inside.

Thanks for chiming in!  Re: Emoticons, I was suggesting that using the emoticons in the ad title made me less likely to read it, but I was not clear on that point.  When it is over done, there is no chance I will open it except for that part of me that cant turn away at car crashes.  

You would be surprised at the purportedly higher end and well reviewed providers who cannot separate from the phone.  

I like your discussion of the YMMV versus specific promised acts.  
Cheers

I've had 91 play dates with providers thus far, and not a single one has ever used their phone while I was with them. Perhaps better pre-date screening is the reason, or maybe I just got lucky every time.  :)

Posted By: sayhelloandsmile
Can Providers just stop with their phone once they open the door, and until the door closes? Really.  Or, how about they agree to pay back $10 for each time they look at texts, send texts, or take calls, or leave ringer on, or any other unprofessional behavior. Or tell me in advance that you must do this, so I can pass on the experience.  Please read that again so it sinks in: just tell me you cant give up the phone during our session.  No worries, plenty of reasons you may prioritize that way.  I just don't prefer a session like that.  
 So, ladies, want to get my attention in your ad?  
 1.  Promise you will put down the phone from the beginning of the session (that means when we first lay eyes on each other) to the end of the session (that means when I leave, not when I cum.  Orgasm is not the time for you to ignore me and attend to the people who have not been paying you for the past 55 minutes).    
 2.  Use common English language, not a bunch of emoticons in your ad title hoping to make it stand out (that makes it standout to me as a provider that likely has a pimp, pass).  
 3.  If you are going to lie about your age, lie older.  The younger the provider, the less likely I am to even read the ad.  Young providers typically are the most difficult, least likely to have real pictures, and most likely to leave you less than thrilled about your time.  But, I have had great sessions with young providers, its just less typical.  
 3.  Don't tell me the services rendered, I understand roughly whats going to happen, and there are no guarantees.  Under promise and over deliver is a good idea.  Word will spread.  BTW,  LE would love for you to spell out your services in your ad though.  
 4.  If you want to bait and switch, do so at your own economic and physical peril (not from me).  The old question for you to think about as you are finishing that hour service in 15 minutes and getting dressed is, "Do I feel lucky?" (punk)  
 5.  Act like you are having a sexy romp, smile, and exude affection and adoration.  I will do the same, and then we will go back to our lives, hopefully with a naughty smile inside.

Seriously Cobra, I will buy that list!!!  So glad I may be the exception not the rule.

The last few years you are seeing NOBODIES without credible review history. I mean, what did you expect? Stick to well reviewed ladies and you will have their undivided attention. It's not what's in the ad, it's who the provider is and if you decide to choose someone with zero reputation.

Yes I must reply...how offensive can you be. I am a Genuine Provider without "credible review history"...and I am far from a "NOBODY"!! Just because I have no reviews YET, I would hate that anyone EXPECTED my Companionship to be anything less than attentive. We all start out with "zero reputation".....except you I suppose.

Enjoy this beautiful sunny San Diego day...its gorgeous outside. Hope to meet some New Friends today ; ) ; )

Posted By: GoldieKnox
The last few years you are seeing NOBODIES without credible review history. I mean, what did you expect? Stick to well reviewed ladies and you will have their undivided attention. It's not what's in the ad, it's who the provider is and if you decide to choose someone with zero reputation.

A person with zero review history is a nobody in terms of them not having credibility. No need for you or the person to which I originally replied to think I am saying someone is an actual nobody, just that in terms of their reviews and merit here they are being generalized by myself as a nobody. Un-bunch your panties please and take a deep breath.  

To the next part: never did I say to EXPECT a "nobody" to do the things he is concerned about. I was referring to the fact that there are many many reviewed SOMEBODIES to see for someone who has written consistently low reviews to people who have no credibility - hence what did he expect considering nobody could vouch for having had a successful (non-phone using) date.

Looks like your third discussion post here - why feel the need to defend yourself against a comment that was in no way a jab at new ladies but at the men who: see them and TOFTT, then they don't have a great experience then COMPLAIN about taking one for the team. It's ridiculous and maybe since you're new you haven't experienced people complaining about things that are within their control. Good luck and hope you do well.  

Heehee
 

Posted By: sexxxyunique
Yes I must reply...how offensive can you be. I am a Genuine Provider without "credible review history"...and I am far from a "NOBODY"!! Just because I have no reviews YET, I would hate that anyone EXPECTED my Companionship to be anything less than attentive. We all start out with "zero reputation".....except you I suppose.  
   
 Enjoy this beautiful sunny San Diego day...its gorgeous outside. Hope to meet some New Friends today ; ) ; )  
   
Posted By: GoldieKnox
The last few years you are seeing NOBODIES without credible review history. I mean, what did you expect? Stick to well reviewed ladies and you will have their undivided attention. It's not what's in the ad, it's who the provider is and if you decide to choose someone with zero reputation.

It's okay sweetie....BTW I am new to TER, but hardly new to the game & I haven't had on panties all day lol ; ) Enjoy!!

Posted By: GoldieKnox
A person with zero review history is a nobody in terms of them not having credibility. No need for you or the person to which I originally replied to think I am saying someone is an actual nobody, just that in terms of their reviews and merit here they are being generalized by myself as a nobody. Un-bunch your panties please and take a deep breath.  
   
 To the next part: never did I say to EXPECT a "nobody" to do the things he is concerned about. I was referring to the fact that there are many many reviewed SOMEBODIES to see for someone who has written consistently low reviews to people who have no credibility - hence what did he expect considering nobody could vouch for having had a successful (non-phone using) date.  
   
 Looks like your third discussion post here - why feel the need to defend yourself against a comment that was in no way a jab at new ladies but at the men who: see them and TOFTT, then they don't have a great experience then COMPLAIN about taking one for the team. It's ridiculous and maybe since you're new you haven't experienced people complaining about things that are within their control. Good luck and hope you do well.  
   
 Heehee  
   
   
Posted By: sexxxyunique
Yes I must reply...how offensive can you be. I am a Genuine Provider without "credible review history"...and I am far from a "NOBODY"!! Just because I have no reviews YET, I would hate that anyone EXPECTED my Companionship to be anything less than attentive. We all start out with "zero reputation".....except you I suppose.  
     
  Enjoy this beautiful sunny San Diego day...its gorgeous outside. Hope to meet some New Friends today ; ) ; )  
     
Posted By: GoldieKnox
The last few years you are seeing NOBODIES without credible review history. I mean, what did you expect? Stick to well reviewed ladies and you will have their undivided attention. It's not what's in the ad, it's who the provider is and if you decide to choose someone with zero reputation.

As usual Oldie( than 23) you are pushing a bad position.  Do you have any evidence about all this mindreading you are doing about all this?  I know, you are a troll and a flamer so you don't need evidence.  Don't you have some $1000 an hour client to attend to?  I don't want to play here with you, but if you so choose I'll be your huckleberry.  Why you ask?  Try and make sense of anything you said in this post.  Logic is like the Matrix for you.  But you will never be Neo. Cheers

Still flattered you follow my posts and PM me constantly!
Glowing with happiness for being on your mind so often - whew, my feet are tired from running through your mind all day (and night judging by your PMs).

 
HUGS!

:)

Oh thats so cute of you to write that.  If you could maintain that sweetness (fake is fine, you make your money being fake) in the rest of your posts it sure would be nice.  I myself am impressed at how you can't help but reply to my posts just to let me know you are looking.  

Word of advice:  If you are chewing gum, take the elevator.

Boom! Roasted!

Really Goldie?  Just dismiss it all like that with a needless vitriolic comment.  I have seen a few credible providers, trust me.  I don't review everyone I see.  So, just so I can update the ladies, which ones are not "nobodies" in your book?  

I don't come here to hate, I am here to help.  If you can't get anything out of my post, i am sorry.

I would comment but I have not reviewed anyone therefore, as you have said in the past,  my opinion is worthless.

AverageEverydayJoe509 reads

I guess everybody is a NOBODY unless you charge 1,000/hour!

I see your list and get it.

But, understand that customers come in all ranges of experience and interest.

As an experienced hobbyist, you know what to expect and what you want and somehow you expect ads to be targeted just for you. Typical human perspective.

But the provider is marketing to a wide range and trying to stand out against the background of dozens if not hundreds of other providers.

How can she be different, how can she get your specific attention?
Experienced hobbyists like you almost don't need ads, you know the terrain.  
Uncertain newbies need to learn everything

Most advertizing is for the new customer or the customer you want to switch over from before to now.  Also in this business, a lot of (most?) customer focus is on something new. You don't need an ad to repeat with a favorite.  

I'm pretty sure providers are not trying to annoy guys like you, but to establish their own brand and attract a following. Everyone is going to have a different creative solution.  It may, in fact, work very well for them, but not so much for you.  

Maybe your filter is good for you. If you are put off by the cerebral-poetic approach, does this mean that the actual encounter will not be to your liking as well? Have you investigated and taken notes? If creative ladies turn out to also disappoint you in person, then thank them for giving you a useful sorting methodology. If it makes no difference, then just short cut to their website and/or reviews and decide from what is available.

But don't expect all advertizers to restrict their efforts to just you. Unrealistic, and not good marketing.

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Nicely put!

 

Posted By: Willay
I see your list and get it.  
   
 But, understand that customers come in all ranges of experience and interest.  
   
 As an experienced hobbyist, you know what to expect and what you want and somehow you expect ads to be targeted just for you. Typical human perspective.  
   
 But the provider is marketing to a wide range and trying to stand out against the background of dozens if not hundreds of other providers.  
   
 How can she be different, how can she get your specific attention?  
 Experienced hobbyists like you almost don't need ads, you know the terrain.  
 Uncertain newbies need to learn everything  
   
 Most advertizing is for the new customer or the customer you want to switch over from before to now.  Also in this business, a lot of (most?) customer focus is on something new. You don't need an ad to repeat with a favorite.  
   
 I'm pretty sure providers are not trying to annoy guys like you, but to establish their own brand and attract a following. Everyone is going to have a different creative solution.  It may, in fact, work very well for them, but not so much for you.    
   
 Maybe your filter is good for you. If you are put off by the cerebral-poetic approach, does this mean that the actual encounter will not be to your liking as well? Have you investigated and taken notes? If creative ladies turn out to also disappoint you in person, then thank them for giving you a useful sorting methodology. If it makes no difference, then just short cut to their website and/or reviews and decide from what is available.  
   
 But don't expect all advertizers to restrict their efforts to just you. Unrealistic, and not good marketing.

-- Modified on 4/7/2014 12:43:02 PM

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