Your scenario isn't the way it works most of the time.  Most girls leave, with no trace, and are never seen again. You're talking about the exception that proves the rule.

Going to your former ATF's Kid's Birthday Party would be Awkward no doubt. I've gone to a former ATF's Kid's Birthday at Chuckie Cheese. It did feel a bit uncomfortable for me

I've a perfect poker face. Now, if it were someone I had an affair with, it would be bothersome, but meeting someone from P4P world in civvie world is something I think I'd be able to handle.

"Da brothas in da hood"??? LOL

Lotta hoes leave da hobby and live normal lives otherwise we'd see way more old hoes, MILFs, and GILFs in da hobby. Dem hoes just gotta find a real job, a sugar daddy, inherit large sums of moneh, or a win da powerball lotto. Hard to leave da bidness if da hoe is wasting time wit a worfless liberal arts degree doe.

Come out of the closet, the air is a lot better out here, and if you are ashamed about what you do, then simply quit doing it. I don't have the least bit of shame, and the only people I would ever think about denying it to would be those people wearing badges, and come to think of it, I have had a couple of cop buddies that I used to joke about the hobby with. They cared about as much about me fucking hookers as they cared about their other friends who smoked pot. Unless you are married and cheating, there really isn't much to hide.

due to the lack of providers.  I usually travel to a major city about 100 miles away to play.  Business travel has its perks; including perky pairs.

You'll have to listen again. That's the most important line in the song, and you ruined it! Lmao.

Anyway, gotta give you another angle.
We constantly change as life evolves. When we were formed in the womb, we were not complete yet. Living life completes us, and this is yet another season that forms us into who we are.

Some leave and try to forget it, even despise it. Others reminisce on the many things they've encountered.

I still look onto these days and see many areas of growth that I doubt I could have ever gotten elsewhere. Is it the sex that has grown me? Absolutely not. While I've learned some skills in the bedroom here, the biggest lessons I've learned involve lessons on how to love and accept myself for who I am.

How to communicate to others respectfully while respecting myself the same way.
How what others day about me don't mean that all of a sudden it's true.
I've learned that - well - I'm not too bad at this self employed stuff, even in a time where pussy ain't as easy to sell - at least for a high price.
I've learned that all shapes and sizes are wanted - If you are confident the thing you are selling.
Confidence can turn pretty into beautiful. Never felt so confident in my life, and I'm heavier than I have ever been. (Finally have the tits I've always wanted lol.)
I've learned that it's ok not to turn the other cheek, but if you are going to stand for something, make sure you really stand for it.
It's ok to make fun of yourself
It's ok to say no to money if it means you will be happier in the end.
Just because the girl next to me is making bank, doesn't mean I have to. And I don't - but I'm happy.
And most of all...
Be careful when writing sarcasm on a board of trolls. They can get feisty.

Thanks for the lessons, because when I leave this for good, I won't be looking back at a black hole in my life. I will always remember that I was formed even by this season, and have some great memories to go with me.

Do I want to do this forever? Nah. But for a season? No regrets here.

Bull hockey!
We could all die any time but we can't leave the hobby?
I left the hobby for a few years and probably would have stayed out if certain conditions in my marriage had been better.  Even now I wonder, after all these years if I should just hang it up.  I've been in the game since the late 80's with only a few " breaks in service" and hobbying (a term I had never heard till 2 years ago) is as much a part of my life as any other part.  I quit smoking cold turkey 16 years ago after smoking since I was 12.  I cut down on my alcohol intake to a coupla beers now and again.  Down from nightly booze fests in my 20's where I was at the bar 5 nights a week.  Quitting p4p would be easier than those things.  

Yes, I've learned a lot about the human condition from my activities.  I've learned that being a good John is almost as tough as being a good boyfriend or husband, the difference is that if I don't want to see the gal again I don't have to.  I've learned to take joy from people and try to give it back, even if it falls on deaf ears.  I've learned to be confident enough to not take shit from anyone and to spot a rip off a mile away.  Mostly because when I started I wasn't confident and I did get ripped off a few times as a young man.  Live and learn.  I'm not sorry I've hobbied.  But I don't let it define me either

I have probably gone through more metamorphoses than most on this board and that's not how it works IME.

When a person leaves one life behind and adopts a new one, whatever residue they carry changes in significance. If you run into someone from your previous life, they don't see you in the same way. They know you are not the person you were, and they might comment that you've changed, but that's it. Everyone changes.

Who I am with a woman I visited this past week is only what she experienced of me in and around the session. And what I experienced of her is as much and no more. If we were to meet at some future date, and say both she and I had discontinued this aspect of our lives, we might acknowledge that once we had a different kind of encounter, but in the moment we would be two different people.

RT, you probably have run into someone who you knew when you both were kids. That person is no longer a kid. You don't react to her or him as that kid you knew. You are two strangers, for all intents and purposes, and that you have changed is no mystery at all. And if you meet the same person again ten years from there is a high likelihood that at least one of you will no longer be the same person as today.

And, in a full transformation, you can just deny that you ever were the person they knew in your past life and ignore them.

After six or seven different identities (in this sense) you can walk into a neighborhood from a past life and observe those who stayed and they will not even be able to recognize you.

We don't mean as much to each other as our vanity leads us to imagine.

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Have you never been at a party with an old girlfriend who's now married with kids from someone else?  To me that's a lot more difficult than meeting a retired P4P favorite: every one of your common friends know you two civvies used to hook up, and nobody is thinking about it because they just don't care.  Only YOU take the stress into that meeting.

And if someone you met in P4P decides to out your relationship then follow the subject line above.  What do they have to gain by the outing except for others to think "BSC on the loose" and pity you for possibly having a relationship with someone who would do that.  If you've dated a civvie who was bipolar then you've been down this road with different subject matters, and can take it in stride.

Providers are people too, there's no reason you can't talk to them at a party as you would anyone else.  If she were still working then I think you'd have to accept from that point forward that the P4P window is closed unless SHE broaches the subject.  With the right people it could be damn hot to secretly meet for a dalliance.  I haven't done that yet...

As for the closeted gay man theory, I'm just not grasping the connection.  Every honest guy is trying to nail someone whether it takes spending time in a relationship, or spending money to buy time.  No one is surprised by your motives, we all share it - and in some cases follow the same solution.

who happen to have an adult body and a puny mind and no sense proper etiquette. There is place and time for everything in this life and it starts respect for each others privacy, rights of each other to life of their choice and expectation people know these things and act appropriately.

The only thing I would care about is a significant other finding out.... other than that I could care less.

98% of men pay for pussy you can't get around it. The only people I don't want knowing about my pussy addiction is LE and my on and off live in SO. Anyone else I could care less

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