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Re: Even after screening I would never send a photo of my face ...
MsDynamite See my TER Reviews 994 reads
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Yeah me too, even the ONE unedited face pic of me out there isn't my face .
I'm a very private person and I expect clients to be the same way.

Just curious, how many of you guys will book a date with a provider that hides her face? I recently saw a provider ad in my area who has reviews saying she is 8-10 on looks, but hides her face. How trusting are you that every one is honest in their review and roll the dice

I have a career outside of this plus I do charity work.  I have to blur my face.  Who knows, one day I may be a senator's wife, or other high profile job,  for this I hide my face.  
If this is a major concern, I'm sorry. But being a provider is not all I'll ever be.    
But, I can offer a money back guaranty.  If I show up and you don't like my looks, just pay me back for my expenses and you're off the hook for the rest.  

Posted By: surlyboy
Just curious, how many of you guys will book a date with a provider that hides her face? I recently saw a provider ad in my area who has reviews saying she is 8-10 on looks, but hides her face. How trusting are you that every one is honest in their review and roll the dice?  
   
 

Senator.Blutarsky1209 reads

But the Mrs. caught me with a cute intern and now I'm single again.

That said... I am definitely NOT looking for the next Mrs. Blutarsky... Once was enough.

GaGambler1047 reads

Zero, zilch, not a fucking cent.

This is not directed at you personally, as I am sure you are every bit as lovely as represented, but when I feel that the ads are deceptive I don't offer a single dime as compensation for "attempted deception"

As for booking providers that blur their pics, IMO it's a necessary evil in this business as many of the most beautiful women in this business feel much like you do and realize that they won't be doing this forever and having recognizable pictures of themselves floating all over the internet can close some very lucrative doors someday in the not that distant future, and quite frankly, I feel I have to accept that fact and I often book women with blurred pics. I do NOT however blindly trust reviews as I have found that many of the guys here will give any woman under fifty years old OR under 200 lbs a 9 just for showing up, and if she smiles at them, that earns her an automatic ten. lol

Posted By: GaGambler
Zero, zilch, not a fucking cent.

This is not directed at you personally, as I am sure you are every bit as lovely as represented, but when I feel that the ads are deceptive I don't offer a single dime as compensation for "attempted deception"  

As for booking providers that blur their pics, IMO it's a necessary evil in this business as many of the most beautiful women in this business feel much like you do and realize that they won't be doing this forever and having recognizable pictures of themselves floating all over the internet can close some very lucrative doors someday in the not that distant future, and quite frankly, I feel I have to accept that fact and I often book women with blurred pics. I do NOT however blindly trust reviews as I have found that many of the guys here will give any woman under fifty years old OR under 200 lbs a 9 just for showing up, and if she smiles at them, that earns her an automatic ten. lol

I think it's fair to share the loss. She's not asking to be compensated for her time, just her actual monetary costs. The reviewers ahead of you apparently had no problem with the pictures and their accuracy, yet you hold her accountable for this discrepency, or in your words "attempted deception."

Let's break this down. I'm using reasonable numbers for my area, so forgive me if the numbers are a little off for your situation.  

You booked the date: Your cost $0, maybe 20-30 minutes of emailing/etc.
She screened you: a fair cost for that is $25. that's the lowest I've seen a screener charge, anyhow.
She found an appropriate incall location close to you: 20-30 minutes time

Total thus far: even on time, she: $25

So now she has a room. A bargain-price room on a decent hotel is around $100.  
Her fees: Let's say she's $300. kind of a good midway rate for TER girls.
She assumedly has to groom, do her hair, makeup, and check into the hotel and set up the room: Time: 90-120 minutes total

Total Risk thus far:  
Her: Time: 3 hours, $125, with a $300 revenue expected, netting $275 for 2.5-3 hours of effort. Simplified, $1 per minute.
You: 30 minutes with expected payout expected of $300

You get there, you don't think her pictures were fair and want out. For free. How is that fair?

YOU chose to back out of the agreement, and you think the only person who should be out anything is her. She's asking for just enough to bring her monetary cost back to zero while her time/effort is easily 6x what yours was.

I don't think any of the providers here are intentionally deceptive with their pictures. Like any advertisement, they are sharing the best of the best, and trying to show themselves in their best light, best angles, etc. At the same time, they try to be honest and fair because they don't want bad reviews because of what you call "attempted deception."

I think the gentlemenly thing to do is to share the loss and be nice about it. Coming here and complaining about it is just going to make it harder for you to get a date from a TER girl in the future, because they don't know if you're going to do the same thing to them

GaGambler837 reads

but let's start at the end, just to make it easy for both of us. I have been here on TER for over a decade, during that time I have seen somewhere over a thousand TER ladies, I don't think I am going to be too worried about getting dates in the future.

The rest of your post contains more errors than care to address, but I will start by noting that your reviews are not a lot better than those of the OP, the good thing is that your ads depict a middle aged, slightly over weight woman who I would never make an appointment with in the first place. So there is no misleading ads for me to complain about. OTOH, if you were to advertise yourself as a twenty something hardbody, and I were to book with you based on that representation, THEN I would have cause to be pissed, and I would leave without leaving a penny.

My point is, as long as your pics are a fair representation of what you actually look like, you are entitled to be compensated for your out of pocket expenses, but many women do attempt to deceive, and those women are not entitled to a penny IMO.

Thanks for the laugh about how hard it's going to be for me to get a date with a "TER" woman in the future. That was one of the funnier things I've heard all day. lol

Senator.Blutarsky864 reads

I have an opening on my staff for a intern... How about we get together to talk about your skills... Who knows where it might lead? wink, wink.

Posted By: Senator.Blutarsky
I have an opening on my staff for a intern... How about we get together to talk about your skills... Who knows where it might lead? wink, wink.

Senator.Blutarsky1031 reads

The pay is not great... But the fringe benefits are amazing... :d

And you must remember that many ladies (myself included) opt for discretion when it come to their image being exposed on the internet... In most instances, it has nothing to do with their looks.

Guys I know or work with get horny too. I prefer not to be recognized. Maybe you didn't think about that.

I have read many times on the PO boards of ladies in the grocery store having their working name yelled out in the store!!
Totally unacceptable...

As well avoid "Aisle 4" (as in clean up in Aisle 4)
Also avoid "price check

Posted By: surlyboy
Just curious, how many of you guys will book a date with a provider that hides her face? I recently saw a provider ad in my area who has reviews saying she is 8-10 on looks, but hides her face. How trusting are you that every one is honest in their review and roll the dice?  
   
 

Posted By: surlyboy
Just curious, how many of you guys will book a date with a provider that hides her face? I recently saw a provider ad in my area who has reviews saying she is 8-10 on looks, but hides her face. How trusting are you that every one is honest in their review and roll the dice?  
   
 
What's the old saying?  Tits, Ass, Face.  Two of three means you hit it.  No need to see the face. :)  

Seriously though, I almost prefer providers who blur.  It tells me that discretion is important to them.

89Springer828 reads

If the face isn't extremely blurred, I can usually get a rough idea of the shape of the lips, nose, etc.  The reviews certainly help, but my taste is different than a lot of other guys. There's been more than one provider who was described as gorgeous who I thought was good looking, but not my taste.

Rarely do the providers who show their faces appeal to  me.  Don't know why.

Getting details on appearance and performance that aren't in the reviews are what back channel/PMs are for. Also, you can go to a M&G.
You'll never convince a gal to use unblurred pix when she has good reason to, and that applies to most of them.

looks are subjective, so it's all about the aggregate. If her scores are all 8-10, you're not going to encounter a troll. Most of the women I've seen disguise their face. I haven't been disappointed yet, but then again, I'm not that superficial. If she's fun, giving, and can suck a mean dick then I'll leave a happy man.

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StillSearching931 reads

Posted By: cocktail-party
looks are subjective, so it's all about the aggregate. If her scores are all 8-10, you're not going to encounter a troll. Most of the women I've seen disguise their face. I haven't been disappointed yet, but then again, I'm not that superficial. If she's fun, giving, and can suck a mean dick then I'll leave a happy man.

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Blurred Face Disorder is a debilitating condition that makes our facial features appear unfocused. The blurry face in my ads is how I really look. While the cause of BFD is still unknown, doctors believe it is the result of over-agitation in the womb during the early stage of development. Over the years, I’ve learned to accept the strange stares as people squint, rub their eyes and adjust their glasses. But there is hope. The Aldo Foundation is doing groundbreaking research into hiding the effects of the disorder. If you would like to help in the fight for a cure, send me a check made out to CASH (Charitable Association for the Severely Handicapped), and I will personally see that your money is put to good use.

Oh, and CASH stands for Charitable Association for Spondoolicks to Hookers.

At least according to W. C. Fields and a few others.
Spondulics
(thing) by Txikwa Thu May 09 2002 at 10:06:25
A slang term for money; common alternative spellings are spondulicks, spondoolicks, and spondulix. I have also heard "spon(d)s". Originally US college slang, dating from the 1850s, it is a learned joke: it appears to be from the from the Greek spondulikos, the adjective of spondulos.

The British slang expert Eric Partridge said this was a kind of seashell used as money. However, it has been questioned whether the spondulos ever was used as currency, and an alternative explanation is that the word meant drum or tambour and thus also vertebra, and that the slang use came from the stacked appearance of coins. (This explanation is attested from 1867.) The OED calls it a fanciful coinage, and the modern NODE even marks it as British slang. It is now well known in Britain and Australia.

In Chapter 13 of Huckleberry Finn the boat-owner says, "for, says I, a sailor's life's the life for me, and I'm derned if I'd live two mile out o' town, where there ain't nothing ever goin' on, not for all his spondulicks and as much more on top of it."

It featured in one of W.C. Fields's classic exchanges: in My Little Chickadee he (as Cuthbert J. Twillie) says to a mark (Cousin Zeb), "Have you any of the elusive spondulicks on you?". Satisfied, he sets up a poker game. The mark innocently asks, "Is this a game of chance?", and Fields reassures him, "Not the way I play it, no.

No, that causes Smeared Face Syndrome, which is a different problem entirely.

Picasso Face Disorder. How's the paper chase going? Can you spot the future robots in your study groups?

Would you put your face on a website trickrus.com and let the world, your boss, your friends know you pay for pussy?

Plus this schtick is ILLEGAL and I don't want an identifiable image of me attached to it.

GaGambler973 reads

and yes, it was linked to everything I have ever said on this and a couple of other fuckboards.

Would you like to know what kind of impact THAT had on my life??? Actually it had zero impact on my life, expect for a several well intended PM's, emails etc, "warning" me that my life was about to be ruined. lol

News flash, everyone is my life already knows that I am a whore mongering pig. That's the beauty about telling the truth in the first place, no one can ever use the truth as blackmail against you. Anyone who doesn't like the fact that I fuck hookers can "please" GO FUCK THEMSELVES!!! See, I even used please. lol

...until recently. Reviews, backchannel, and provider referrals work well.

I know the ladies need to do it.

About half the gals I have met hide their face on their ads and/or website.  Sure, it would be nice to know at first what they look like, but I have never been disappointed when meeting them.

these days if she is showing her face and using hotels.   LE copies escort ads and hands them out to hotel managers.

the owner refused to blur our faces and I would memorize the other girls.  I would go looking for them at the hotel bars and the transporation van that went to the mall. I got 5/6 girls phone numbers so we could share tips on how to be better.  Owner got mad but he used the same hotels in tyson's corner that he always used so we also kept bumping into our customers.

to get more information.  Also, has already been pointed out, you can go to M & G to see the ladies first hand.  Hard to photoshop in person.

And, if the provider chooses to screen you before sending you a photo, then everyone's happy.  Easy solution...

89Springer910 reads

Seems really dangerous. I'd never even consider asking for that.

Not because I'm worried about my looks at all ... But for legalistic purposes!!

Yeah me too, even the ONE unedited face pic of me out there isn't my face .
I'm a very private person and I expect clients to be the same way.

Many other people in society  obviously don't understand.  They have pre-conceived notions based off of working girls. And I don't want to be looked at differently or respected less by my family members/professors/colleagues (who all live in the same city that I work in...yikes!)

Many reasons for someone hide their face. I kind of like the fact that they are concerned about their privacy and they will also be concerned about mine as much.

It is a good thing.

I wonder how the whole picture/facial recognition thing will play out. It's not just now, it's x-years from now when pics everyone thinks are deleted are still saved on some server (or hundreds of servers) and more powerful search engines with image recognition will connect the dots.

There's Tinyeye and Google Image search but they are just scratching the surface.  

I'm all for as much discretion as possible.

Re: not meeting expectations (the original thread - sorry for the sidebar), that's a tough one. Each situation is different but if I agreed to meet and the provider had to travel, get a room and be out $$, I'd pay at least half the room unless the pics were quite different (years out of date, misleading).

I really don't see the problem here.

If, when she opens the door, her face isn't as pretty as she said it was you can either say 'thanks but no thanks' turn around and leave or just don't see that lady again.

Providers have far too much to lose by having their faces made public and I'm actually surprised by the number who do advertise with their face shown

Every encounter with someone you haven't met before is a roll of the dice to some degree, there are no guarantees whether faces are shown or not

While I would love to show my face in ads, one needs to think about not only protecting themselves in this discriminating society against sex workers, but also think about the family and friends who you may get involved due to your choice to be in this biz.  

I know it is taking a risk for a lot of gentlemen,,, but risk is everything in being a hobbyist and a provider.. isn't that part of the thrill

In my locale, LE provides pictures of escorts to hotel staff, who keep them handy at check in desk. If a provider has a publicly available face image, she may not be allowed to check in or may find LE observing every move. So blur or hiding face is a natural precaution.

QuinnAdams702 reads

This post is surprising to me. I figured all hobbyists just assume that us providers blur our photos for the same reason that they don't bring up their latest hobbying experiences at the dinner table or on a conference call with professional clients: Because our involvement in the industry, both as hobbyists and as providers, is something better left a secret to those who don't share our same proclivities.

It was my assumption -- and perhaps now one I might rethink -- that hobbyists understood that providers value discretion and their privacy just as much as they do, and wouldn't think twice about a lady who blurs her photos. It seems that most of the providers who do not hide their faces are those who already have their visage out there through their involvement in the porn industry or a similar medium that has already compromised their identity and privacy.

Do other hobbyists share the concern of the original poster? In other words, do other hobbyists hesitate to see a provider who doesn't show her face in her pictures even if she has fabulous appearance reviews and scores? At the margin, all other things being equal (this is a hypothetical, of course, because everything else being equal is just not possible in this case), would you see a lady with pictures that reveal her face over a lady who hides hers?

Unfortunately, your answers to these questions are merely to satisfy a curiosity and to help me better understand the viewpoints and ideas of the hobbyist community: I can't do anything about it even if you all say you greatly favor ladies with unblurred faces, because it isn't worth the potentially negative consequences of putting my likeness out there for my colleagues at work, my family, my friends and social circle, and my future boss to see.  

It is eye-opening though that this is an issue. Don't you all trust the reviews if they say a lady has a beautiful face, assuming there are a sufficient number of reviews to back up this assertion

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