Well to each his own Dave. However, I have NEVER given out any personal information on myself to any provider, and I do just fine. Have had numerous dates with top ladies in SD from this site and one other.
Don't get me wrong, white listing is nice, but IT IS NOT Screening or Verification. There are discussions out there regarding the abuse of white listing, and it's not hard to think there are 10/10 providers out there that would agree to a fake 10/10 review if it meant giving a guy a white list in exchange. It is just one piece of making a lady's decision to see us or not.
Proper Screening is Proper Verification by P411 or Date Check. My preference is DC and have had no issues with it. Not much different than the info to get a credit card at the store, or a car loan. Verification shows a lady that I'm serious and real enough to let a 3rd Party verify my identity and/or work info. After all, I'm asking to meet a stranger and do the most intimate things possible between a man and woman.
Two things need to happen here:
1) I'm going walk into an incall or outcall hotel, and face the possibility of very bad things happening with my pants down. I need to know I'm not walking into a trap or a BSC bunny-boiler.
2) She needs to know that I'm not LE and going to fuck her entire world over, or worse, be the next Charlie Manson or Ted Bundy knocking on the door.
A friend was recently on tour in Vegas, and got a last minute call offering her 10X her normal rate to come to a hotel room late at night. International phone number. Multiple foreign male voices in the background. Nothing to screen or verify. Sounds like an episode of CSI:LV in the making. Naturally, she hung up.
Sorry gymbo5150, but if you are not willing to be Date Check / P411 verified beforehand, and don't like the screening as an alternative, perhaps it is you that should re-think their working in the biz!!
Well have not visited TER in a while and it seems things have changed, and not for the better. I was attempting to go through a ladies rather extensive screening process only to fine out that my multiple pages of previous reviews, a recent white list referral and several other links to provider referrals were not good enough. So whast up with that?Iis this site not have the rep it used to? And for those of you you ask why I am not on here much it is because I live in NorCal and there is another board there that is better suited for that area. Yes and get this the same provider advertises there but will not accept referrals from there. I have heard of golden pussy syndrome before but this seems excessive. Any one else noticed this trend in San Diego, or was it just one provider who should re-think their working in the biz?
Have not had that problem at all in my year and a half at TER.
I have not been playing as much the last 18 months due to civie life obligations and I think I am up to about 8 rejections and 4 I have never heard back from even with 2 ladies willing to reference me.
I don't think every instance is golden pussy syndrome. With so many boards out there now, ladies are setting their own standards to screening. Which is frustrating, only because the requirements can vary vastly from lady to lady.
One reasons why a TER whitelist has no meaning to some ladies is mainly because they are not paying for membership.
Its harder for us old timers, who remember the times where we just needed to give our screennames and we were seeing a lady in an hour. We just have to keep trying till we find someone that will work with us, which will take a lot more time now.
Good Luc
Yes you are right, I am feeling your pain as well. I suppose the most disrespect a lady can give a gent is NOT TO RESPOND after you have given your references. It is bad manners, and puts the lady at the top of my dns list.
What ladies do not seem to realize is the decision to see them is fleeting. One minute you are hot to see them then as the process goes on and on the desire becomes less and less. I am on a "regular" search now, my number 1 requirement is she makes time to see me and I do not have to pick 10 dates to meet her schedule.
Ladies who ask WHEN, then make you go through the screening process only to say they are busy at that time are the worst How simple is it to say.. I'm busy at that time?
My latest disappointment was with a top 10 provider who set the date and time then canceled the right before saying she had not heard back from ALL my references and then at the end of the day say I am good to go. She should not have confirmed the date if she had not finished her screening. More disrespect since I had adjusted my schedule to meet her promised time.
I don't think every instance is golden pussy syndrome. With so many boards out there now, ladies are setting their own standards to screening. Which is frustrating, only because the requirements can vary vastly from lady to lady.
One reasons why a TER whitelist has no meaning to some ladies is mainly because they are not paying for membership.
Its harder for us old timers, who remember the times where we just needed to give our screennames and we were seeing a lady in an hour. We just have to keep trying till we find someone that will work with us, which will take a lot more time now.
Good Luck
One reasons why a TER whitelist has no meaning to some ladies is mainly because they are not paying for membership.
Another reason is they give you white listing and tell other providers you are a bad risk. Their word means nothing.
Two references and a WL plus 29 previous TER revs, all of which were rejected. Moved on to the next lady on my BL, no problem.
MfSD>>>>
that is true I am a new hobbyist for about 3 years in total and now regularly for a year now. These agencies or ladies are asking a lot because some do not recognize certain sites or providers so it is really hard. I have been on hold with SDASIANGIRLS.com site for over 2 months now and they say my references are hard to find but when I talk to them they say the agency never contacted them.
Yet there are providers out there that are part of TER and have accounts but it is hard for them to white list you.
If you, do not wish to jump through hoops pick another that is what makes this hobby, so great the freedom to pick & choose. I have never relied on a references, or a screening service.
The disrespect comes when you jump through the hoops and they say they are busy...
Now they are wasting my time.
I'm not sure I call it GP Syndrome but here's what I find really humorous ... When a provider asks for references and then COMPLAINS about getting in touch with the references I provide. Seriously? Why ask for them if you are going to complain about having to check them. So what many (NOT ALL) will do is the easier method. Ask for TER handle and check your board posts and reviews. If they don't like what you say or even how you say it YOU ARE DECLINED. I have many of board posts from providers here in San Diego that support this claim and I would be happy to share with you.
I have not had any problems but we do need to be smarter on these boards. If you are going to post anything considered in the least to be derogatory toward a provider, post under and ALIAS. This includes reviews. This is a sensitive subject as many providers will call you "Chicken" or say you are "hiding" behind an alias. To me, its all part of the game and here's the REALLY FUNNY thing. I have had dates with ladies on this board who absolutely HATE my alias. To me that PROVES that aliases are the smartest way to go. Just NEVER MIX your alias with your real handle. When using your real handle just say NICE THINGS!!!
BE SMART and PLAY THE GAME you CHICKENS HIDING BEHIND ALIASES 
To the OP...
Maybe she did read some posts and reviews and she didn't like what you had to say. I know I like to look at stuff like that to help with my screening. Sometimes people are just nit picky and take it to the extreme.
I can't access your reviews because I'm no longer VIP but some top rated providers will not see guys that score lower than average. They don't want to mess up their "perfect 10s". Like I mentioned in my previous post, it can be anything. You'll probably never know the real reason
If I come across someone with that much info such as reviews, white lists, etc...the only reason I will not see them is if I ran across them on a BL or if their reference didn't have good things to say about them. Many guys with a lot of references and reviews come up on the BL. I don't know you and in no way am I implying that you're on the BL. I'm just saying that is the only reason I will not see someone like yourself.
Also, anyone can send links to reviews. I ask them to prove that those are their reviews by messaging me from that site. If I decide not to see you, I would never say I saw you on the BL or so and so said you're not a good client. I just say I can't see you at this time or I was unable to verify you. It can be anything, really. Maybe she didn't get a good vibe from you or like you said, "golden pussy syndrome". No matter the reason, I say it's time to move on to plan B. Not all SD providers are like that. Good luck!
But there are several ladies who want way too much real world info. I just move on. And the whole blaklist thing is BS. You can give a lady an honest review and she can blacklist you because she didn't like the review.
The BL is not BS. It's a great for providers that do not take advantage of it. You have reviews, we have BL, and white list. The smart ones can weed through the BS BL submissions. BL doesn't mean your never going to see another provider again. Some of them are things like no show. If he is a repeat no show offender, I will pass. If it's just one time I might take a gamble. Maybe he was having a bad day? If it's non pay, or violence, of course I will pass. Just like there are fake BL submissions there are fake reviews. It goes both ways. But would you call reviews BS? Probably not. You first look at who wrote it and compare it to the others. Same with BL. There are a few providers that BL anyone for anything, reasons that aren't really BL worthy.....to me.
I would never ask for personal info unless they do not have references. I prefer not to go that route but if they ask "is there anything else I can provide"? Yes, work info. I understand why someone would not want to give up that info. Don't get upset just move on. I don't get all bent out of shape when someone doesn't want to give refs or work info. I just say "have a good day", and move on. Some ladies take honest reviews good or bad and learn from them. I say more roll with the bad than the small amount of ladies that go ape shit over a bad review. Of course the small amount that get diva over it label us all.
YET just another reason to use the ALIAS for these cases - bad (honest) review. Face it gents - you have to play the game!
Do what you have to do.
It's all a game, Joe. 
Thank You for all the comments. Providers need to do whatever they feel is necessary for their comfort and safety. In this case because I did not have a review specific to TER all my other references were not even considered. I would love to post more reviews here and participate more; the problem is that if you even mention a perceived competitive site your reviews are not allowed. Many of the NorCal folks use another site because that is where the Ladies choose to advertise (including the one in question in this case) but TER will refuse the add location and thus the review. Tonilicious I can assure you that I do not exist on a black list, I always treat the ladies I see with respect even if we don't hit it off. I learned long ago that for selfish reasons if you treat a lady right she will reward you many times over. Oh well ther are more fish in the sea. Back to fishing.
I have heard of some providers saying whitelist isnt reliable but I have never had any problems and usually if the gents whitlist refferals are recent I dont require any more info from them.
Thank you Lilly! I mean why else do we have a whitelist. In my intros to ladies I always refer them to my whitelist referrals here, and never have to provide further personal info.
In recent years I've hobbied in SD rather than further afield, so I don't know if local referrals would assist me in Chicago, or San Francisco, or elsewhere. I've found it easier as time has gone on, to get through the screening process. It helps to have a few reviews and to be whitelisted by trusted providers. I can only think of one provider who was virtually impossible to see, even though I offered essential details. But I've read she has a reputation for being petulant, so I've moved on. And that would be my advice.
Anyone can get a TER handle, and post away. Shoot, you could make up some "providers" and create a bunch of BS white lists for you.
Don't get me wrong, white listing is nice, but IT IS NOT Screening or Verification. There are discussions out there regarding the abuse of white listing, and it's not hard to think there are 10/10 providers out there that would agree to a fake 10/10 review if it meant giving a guy a white list in exchange. It is just one piece of making a lady's decision to see us or not.
Proper Screening is Proper Verification by P411 or Date Check. My preference is DC and have had no issues with it. Not much different than the info to get a credit card at the store, or a car loan. Verification shows a lady that I'm serious and real enough to let a 3rd Party verify my identity and/or work info. After all, I'm asking to meet a stranger and do the most intimate things possible between a man and woman.
Two things need to happen here:
1) I'm going walk into an incall or outcall hotel, and face the possibility of very bad things happening with my pants down. I need to know I'm not walking into a trap or a BSC bunny-boiler.
2) She needs to know that I'm not LE and going to fuck her entire world over, or worse, be the next Charlie Manson or Ted Bundy knocking on the door.
A friend was recently on tour in Vegas, and got a last minute call offering her 10X her normal rate to come to a hotel room late at night. International phone number. Multiple foreign male voices in the background. Nothing to screen or verify. Sounds like an episode of CSI:LV in the making. Naturally, she hung up.
Sorry gymbo5150, but if you are not Date Check / P411 verified beforehand, and don't like their screening as an alternative, just keep looking. Lots of fish in the sea.
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Well to each his own Dave. However, I have NEVER given out any personal information on myself to any provider, and I do just fine. Have had numerous dates with top ladies in SD from this site and one other.
Don't get me wrong, white listing is nice, but IT IS NOT Screening or Verification. There are discussions out there regarding the abuse of white listing, and it's not hard to think there are 10/10 providers out there that would agree to a fake 10/10 review if it meant giving a guy a white list in exchange. It is just one piece of making a lady's decision to see us or not.
Proper Screening is Proper Verification by P411 or Date Check. My preference is DC and have had no issues with it. Not much different than the info to get a credit card at the store, or a car loan. Verification shows a lady that I'm serious and real enough to let a 3rd Party verify my identity and/or work info. After all, I'm asking to meet a stranger and do the most intimate things possible between a man and woman.
Two things need to happen here:
1) I'm going walk into an incall or outcall hotel, and face the possibility of very bad things happening with my pants down. I need to know I'm not walking into a trap or a BSC bunny-boiler.
2) She needs to know that I'm not LE and going to fuck her entire world over, or worse, be the next Charlie Manson or Ted Bundy knocking on the door.
A friend was recently on tour in Vegas, and got a last minute call offering her 10X her normal rate to come to a hotel room late at night. International phone number. Multiple foreign male voices in the background. Nothing to screen or verify. Sounds like an episode of CSI:LV in the making. Naturally, she hung up.
Sorry gymbo5150, but if you are not willing to be Date Check / P411 verified beforehand, and don't like the screening as an alternative, perhaps it is you that should re-think their working in the biz!!
P411 is not a sure thing either. It was compromised last year and several ladies suffered from it because they saw several oks and that was good enough for them.
I will admit there are issues with reviews and whitelisting but information can be faked for that site as well and still put ladies in danger. What good is there knowing that a client is a CEO/President of a large company that lives in a high priced gated community but is an asshole in the bedroom.
I am just playing counterpoint here but we both agree on safety for the ladies.
One method of screening is no long ideal. I think ladies needs to check out multiple sources for screening
I did get a blog post from someone back East about it being contaminated. That's why I use DC, but everyone needs to do research from multiple sources.
VerifyHim.com is pretty freaking amazing. A friend asked my thoughts on if it was worth the monthly price to her for screening, and I was seriously impressed after running myself as a test for the validity of the information it obtained. I'd use that sucker as a serious skip tracing tool with the databases it is connected to.
These days, I have no issues with someone I've never met wanting to screen, verify, or confirm references in the name of our mutual safety. I'd be a little worried about someone that did not want to screen/verify.
I've been contacted by a few guys who seem very reluctant to do any screening. In fact as soon as I request even basic information to screen I never hear from them. I'm surprised as I thought it was standard practice in US - and I'm advertised on that really expensive site that costs more than I'm earning
Especially if they do not have 3rd party verification established.
If I was contacting you when you come to Phoenix later this week, it would be rather simple:
Full name and contact info
Date Check ID and TER info
Where I learned about you
Date, time, and length of meeting requested
A couple of recent references to contact
Let me be the first to say "Welcome to AZ".
Cheers
yeah sometimes it is just ridiculous. My worst experience was getting an email from a very highly rated lady I had seen before telling me she would be in town. I tried to schedule an appointment, but she took me through the screening process again. After about 17 emails over the course of 7 days of me answering her questions and giving her references etc., I told her to just forget about it when she wouldn't let me know if I could see her or not.
you've seen her before, and she wants to re-screen you again. Or she's just BSC mental, but WTF is up with more than one email with questions???? Not like you are applying to the CIA or Google...