goldies post got me thinking... I really like FBSM and whatever other people think the massage part is very important. And one of the key features of the session is the Happy ending. So the question.. Does the HE have to come at the end as the name implies? Personally I like the HE about 1/3rd through the session. I am relaxed and usually ready to go. the best part is it makes the rest of the massage that much better because I am now feeling great. An added benefit is it lends its self to a second pop. 
For some reason when it comes near the end it seems so final. There was one lady here (SD) who did it right at the beginning It seemed many people liked that. What say you?
More of a gfe type session. Making out and lots of touching/rubbing in the beginning and as soon as the moment is right getting a release. Then more kissing touching talking and second pop. I really don't like full service but I like the blurred lines of the fbsm +
Thanks for posting, and what impeccable timing you have! I have been going over the FBSM posts lately and can't wait to "get my feet wet". I have my first massage this weekend and look forward to seeing my mentor in action so I can go solo and have more availability. How important is multiple pops? I noticed you said you like it at the 1/3 point but my mentor said maybe to pop at the beginning for those who like and to offer a finale? Is that agreeable or do you prefer one? So much to learn! Once my internet is back on look for me posting more and more! This is so fun, thanks to everyone!
Posted By: SampleTaster
goldies post got me thinking... I really like FBSM and whatever other people think the massage part is very important. And one of the key features of the session is the Happy ending. So the question.. Does the HE have to come at the end as the name implies? Personally I like the HE about 1/3rd through the session. I am relaxed and usually ready to go. the best part is it makes the rest of the massage that much better because I am now feeling great. An added benefit is it lends its self to a second pop.
For some reason when it comes near the end it seems so final. There was one lady here (SD) who did it right at the beginning It seemed many people liked that. What say you?
Beginning is good... but it does take time for some intros and setting the stage. getting over nerves and relaxing. Also the initial chat can set the stage. One day I hope to find a skilled lady to make the whole session just one long orgasm. Been close and It could happen! There are a few moves most ladies miss that make it... Well uber bliss
One guys "uber bliss" might be a hell no to someone else. Communication is key.
Posted By: SampleTaster
There are a few moves most ladies miss that make it... Well uber bliss!
Is when there is no "mechanical" or rehearsed element. In other words the session flows from initial greeting (a kiss is nice) and seems to just happen as a result of the chemistry between the players. I like to chat and flirt as we're getting started and I think laughing is often a precursor to a really great session.
I truly don't like when you can tell that there is a schedule being followed, i.e., rub the back, rub the legs, tease the boys, rub breasts on back and whisper, "it's time to turn over" followed by....well you know. It's like there are points on the spacy spa music that are a cue to what must come next. By the way, I HATE that new age, tinkle, tinkle crap soundtrack that many ladies seem to use. I like soft jazz or even some Dinah Washington (so sexy) in the background. Dirty talk can be a plus too but please don't channel an 80's porn tape.
As regards the HE. If the session is flowing and I'm touching and licking some fun parts it can come whenever it feels right. Waiting to the end puts a lot of pressure on making sure I'm ready because I only have 10 minutes left. In longer sessions it's nice to have some fun earlier on and then one later too. Oh, and I agree that the massage part is uber-important. Some ladies seem to think that we're there for just one reason, and the massage can take a so-so session and make it a good one. JMHO.
I agree. If it has a more organic flow its much more enjoyable. The first kiss can be awkwardly uncomfortable if she does not put herself in a position to make it easy. I love being undressed and more or less pampered. Kissing with tongue is what really turns me on. And lots of her kissing all over my body. Bbj is nice but if she charges too much extra I can see people thinking its not worth it. Lots of girls include it in the fbsm.
I also like daty but again. If she isnt going to actually enjoy it... why should I bother. Using toys on her can also be fun... but have not actually done that yet.
I am a long time fbsm aficionado. In my younger days I loved a good pop early on and one at the end--As I have mellowed (arghhh) I prefer a very nice massage with as much mutual fun as is allowed--with a great finish towards the end.--The best fbsm includes some cuddling, talking and massage after the big event. In my experience fbsm many many times beats the hooie out of fs.
Posted By: SampleTaster
goldies post got me thinking... I really like FBSM and whatever other people think the massage part is very important. And one of the key features of the session is the Happy ending. So the question.. Does the HE have to come at the end as the name implies? Personally I like the HE about 1/3rd through the session. I am relaxed and usually ready to go. the best part is it makes the rest of the massage that much better because I am now feeling great. An added benefit is it lends its self to a second pop.
For some reason when it comes near the end it seems so final. There was one lady here (SD) who did it right at the beginning It seemed many people liked that. What say you?
One more thing about fbsm I like.
Even if round 2 or 3 does not seem to be happening, I really like the effort and attention. Maybe a little cock worship and talking dirty even if things aren't getting up.
Are facials too much to ask for in fbsm? Some will allow it and some will not. Wondering if that's just over the line.
Posted By: Kballmt
Are facials too much to ask for in fbsm? Some will allow it and some will not. Wondering if that's just over the line.
Some ladies just don't like it. I don't care for it but that doesn't mean someone else isn't willing to give it a go. I don't think it's over the line to ask.
some day I am going to get some ambition and come to see you Toni--your photos are gorgeous and your reputation is over the top.
Posted By: MissToniLuscious
Posted By: Kballmt
Are facials too much to ask for in fbsm? Some will allow it and some will not. Wondering if that's just over the line.
Some ladies just don't like it. I don't care for it but that doesn't mean someone else isn't willing to give it a go. I don't think it's over the line to ask.
Toni is great! Its been a while but she is a great kisser. And a fantastic rack!
Related to topic: With sensual massage done right, at the end can be the perfect time. Recently,I saw Diana Blake up in Santa Monica, and with her technique the arousal just builds and builds. Plus, she has the most perfect natural DD breasts, at least in this Universe.
Posted By: SampleTaster
goldies post got me thinking... I really like FBSM and whatever other people think the massage part is very important. And one of the key features of the session is the Happy ending. So the question.. Does the HE have to come at the end as the name implies? Personally I like the HE about 1/3rd through the session. I am relaxed and usually ready to go. the best part is it makes the rest of the massage that much better because I am now feeling great. An added benefit is it lends its self to a second pop.
For some reason when it comes near the end it seems so final. There was one lady here (SD) who did it right at the beginning It seemed many people liked that. What say you?
Like I said in an earlier post, I don't think its an entry-level position. To be done right, it takes some maturity, intuition and patience. And chemistry between provider and client is crucial, in order to get away from the programmed or mechanical moves that some providers utilize. It also covers a multitude of experiences from near-FS to discreet therapeutic with a HE thrown in. I've experienced one of the best in town from a provider who won't allow kissing or wandering fingers, but who has perfected the art of sensual body slides. Another provider, now retired, was great at edging, and began the massage with a mind blowing happy beginning that went on and on. Another, probably my ATF also now retired, indulged in a lot of mutual touch and head games (and not THAT head), leading us both on an erotic journey. My latest wonderful experiences have, strictly speaking, not involved massage at all. Its more like being with a GF who slowly removed my clothing, and kisses me with increasing intensity. I reciprocate with extended DATY, which is followed by face to face body slides and what amounts to intense simulated sex. In short there are many, many ways this can be done. For me at least its even more intense and satisfying that FS when its done right.
