Goldie-

It's funny, when I started out hobbying, I was really surprised to see that across the whole spectrum of sensual enjoyment, I could essentially pay for one of two options: FBSM and FS.  That's it.

As I began to explore more and dig deeper, I realized you can find women that can provide something other than vanilla or chocolate.  I think that is a big benefit.  I love the idea of being able to tick the boxes of what I want and knowing the price for that.  The truth is that some of the boxes I check this week will be different next week, which is one of the reasons guys like variety.  

So, I know this wasn't really your question, but I think you should include all, with the price add-on that makes sense for you.  That way, each person can get exactly what they want.

The only other thing I would add is I didn't see a category for "real massage."  There have been times where I am looking for a legitimate real deep-tissue massage that still provides a happy finish.  There are very few girls out there that have legitimate massage training and that is certainly a big +.

Body slides          8
Kissing               10    
Tongue Kissing    10
HJ                       8
BBBJ                  10
Massage Table      0
Incall                 10
DATY                   8
Refreshments       0
Nude Massage      9
Topless Massage   9

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Reviews: 21

Body slides          5
Kissing               10     
Tongue Kissing    10 
HJ                       5
BBBJ                  10 
Massage Table      0 
Incall                 10 
DATY                   5
Refreshments       0 
Nude Massage      10
Topless Massage   5
Russian/dirty talk/shower play 1

answers from a connoisseur and massage junkie!

I thought you gave up the massage for the more lucrative side! But here are my answers with some explanations. There is a get what you pay for kind of thing going in here. More services obviously will cost more.  So I assumed a basic price of $$$ for 90 min to 2 hrs!  

   
 On a scale of 1-10 how important are the following  
 (1 not important, 5 necessary, 10 very important)  
   
  Body-slides    8 love the feel of a naked lady it gives you a warm and fuzzy
 Kissing  3 but not necessary if it costs more, so I can go without
 Tongue Kissing  3 but not necessary if it costs more, But I really love kissing  
 Prostate Massage  10 one of my very favorites!  
 Hand Job 10 whats the point of getting worked up!
 Blow Job 3 but not necessary if it costs more so I can go without but a nice touch
 Massage Table  9 and a heated one with a face cushion is very nice. And you forgot to have Bolsters one for the feet and I love a large one (like a liberator) under my hips to give her access to the bits!
 Outcall 2  I'm a man without a bed but when I travel It is really nice!
 Incall 10 I'm a man without a bed got to have it.  beside incalls generally are nicer with candles, music and a relaxing atmosphere!
 DATY 3 One of my favorites but do not want to pay extra so I can go without!
 Refreshments  5 a really nice touch!
 Nude Massage 8 I love a nude lady but if her technique is great its not a deal breaker
 Topless Massage 4 I can take it or leave it.  
   
 You forgot some Goldie... Give a massage to the provider, 10 Something I really enjoy to show my appreciation!
Warm oils... 10 a must have! I have my own mix of shea butter and coconut oil plus some secret ingredients!
Mutual touch... 8 something I really love!  

And for an FYI 90 min is the optimal time although I generally go 2 hrs!  

I would love to get you on MY table

...I had some more thoughts on your question - unfortunately I know I am still not directly answering it Goldie!

But, I think more important than setting importance alone, it is important to always consider at what price.  I might tell you BBBJ is a 10.  But, if you tell me it will be an extra $200, I will probably tell you just HJ is just fine!

I think the base case FBSM is 1 hr: good-looking topless girl, mediocre massage, some small talk, and HJ to orgasm for $150.  It doesn't matter whether there is massage table, but it should be clean environment with very good hygiene standards where I feel safe and comfortable.  Refreshments are not expected and I would not pay extra for them.

Looks: For hot girl I would pay an extra $50.  For Victoria Secret Model type I would pay an extra $100-$150.

Unique Skills: If you bring unique skills (usually clear from reviews), I am willing to pay more. Specifically, if you really know how to tease, please, and make-love to a cock with your hands I would pay upwards of an extra $100.  (google Klixen hand job or Hegre-art tantric milk for examples)

Mutual Touch: this includes kissing, touching your body, body-slides and DATY.  When I opt for FBSM, this is not a big deal for me, as part of the appeal is to simply enjoy a one-way street. Maybe an extra $100 if in the mood... This obviously incorporates fully nude massage.

Location:  I won't pay extra, but I personally need incall.  In addition, if your location is not convenient, there is no $ amount that makes it work.  As an example, I would never see someone in Carlsbad/Oceanside - it is just too far for me.  Similarly, I have had regulars where a big part of what makes it work is they are only 10-15 mins away and super easy to get hold of and make last-minute plans.

Prostate Massage - I have tried it but certainly not a regular thing for me, and this would never stop me from seeing someone if not on the menu.  Maybe an extra $50?

I also think there is an opportunity to provide some other services along the sensual/erotic spectrum that could fit in nicely with either FBSM or FS:

* Role play - teacher/student, doctor/patient, boss/worker or servant
* Fantasies - threesomes, voyeur, etc.
* Sexual Education - teaching guys how to be better lovers. There are a lot of videos and books out there, but to actually be able to learn while experiencing would be amazing.
* focusing on the most important sexual organ - the brain.  Very few really excel at knowing the art of seduction, desire, and creating that intimate connection that takes a sensual/erotic experience to another level.  This could also includes things like Dirty talk, etc.

I could easily see paying an extra $100+ if one of these layered on the regular FBSM

Thank you for posting this question. Here are my responses:

Body-slides = 8
Kissing = 10
Tongue Kissing = 10
Prostate Massage = 1
Hand Job =5
Blow Job =5
Massage Table = 5 (depends on massage style. ex: nuru, rubdown)  
Outcall = 3
Incall = 10
DATY = 8
Refreshments = 5  
Nude Massage = 10
Topless Massage = 10

I hope you find my answers helpful.

I'd rate as follows..

Body-slides 6
Kissing 5
Tongue Kissing 5
Prostate Massage 3
Hand Job 10
Blow Job 10
Massage Table 7
Outcall 10
Incall 6
DATY 5
Refreshments 2
Nude Massage 4
Topless Massage 4

To explain the pair of 4's for Topless/nude...
I prefer heels/mini/crop top or fishnet top with no bra. Thats a BIG 10

I'd add my fav. The TEASE. BIG 10 Too
A caress here, a touch there..all the way through.
Not just 'attention' on the flip.

Wa

First to answer your questions:
Body-slides: 10 - incredibly erotic and there's nothing like the feeling of her naked body sliding over yours
Kissing: 10 - just love kissing
Tongue Kissing 10+++ - the true mark of a GFFBSM
Prostrate Massage: 3 - I can take it or leave it.
Hand Job: 10 - without the release, what's the point?
Blow Job: 5 - I'd never say no, but its not essential
Massage Table: 3 - I can take them or leave them
Outcall: 1 - only if I'm desperate or if we can meet at the Tubs (of happy memory)
Incall: 10 - if this didn't exist I wouldn't be playing much
DATY: 5 - nice, love doing it, but not essential
Refreshments: 1 - I can live without them
Nude massage: 10 +++ if I'm in my birthday suit, she better be as well.  Screw the whole "I keep my panties on" scenario.  And if she keeps her top on, forget it!
Topless massage: 1 - its got to be nude.  
To reflect further, FBSM is a real skill, and not all providers who say they do it really deliver on their promises.  I don't think its an entry level position.  It takes some maturity to know how to tease and please a man, rather than lying back and getting drilled.  To my mind, if its done right, it can be an erotic experience that surpasses FS.  And I have to admit, its safer.
What about some other add-ons?
Nuru: love this and would give it somewhere between a 5 and a 10.  But it has to be real nuru with the proper gel, mattress, body slides and either BBBJ or HJ.  Beware - not every provider who says she does nuru actually delivers the full package.
Showering together before and after: a really nice touch, and something I love.  Again somewhere between a 5 and a 10.  The vertical massage in the shower can really spice up the horizontal activities later.
Stripper slides: very hot.  I'd give them a 5.  They can be a real turn on, but not everyone is willing to go there.
Mutual touch: 5 - I like to give pleasure as well as receive it, but not all providers appreciate guy's sticking their fingers in orifices where they are not welcome.  Always a good idea to ask before proceeding.
My ideal GF-FBSM would consist of: DFK, showering together, body slides with lots of teasing, totally nude massage, DATY (amazing how this can really add something when both of you get to cum), some dirty talk, and a HJ delivered in such a way that we get very close to simulated sex.  I had this experience just yesterday, and its was awesome

So a lot of this stuff, to me, crosses the line from fbsm to escort.  So with that in mind, lets just assume that this is a fbsm session that is higher than the average going rate by say 50%?  Personally, I like an all inclusive approach, X amount for the service with no ups.  So . . .  

Inquiring minds want to know!

Awesome ? GK & a very informative thread.  I find it very interesting indeed to read all the responses.  Not really a massage at all for the answers received, and the risks increase with the all the activities listed.  Thanks for sharing.

when I moved here to San Diego County.

A standard option in local massage parlors was the "switch massage", where you got to massage the lady in addition to receiving a massage.  The cost that year?  Usually $25 for an hour.  (Another indication of the cost of living:  I recall new condos in Pacific Beach being advertised for about $25k.)

I started with "massaging" the masseuse because it resulted in a very erotic session.  Many of my regular ladies were happy to see me return so they could receive another "tongue lashing".

By the late 1970's the City of San Diego had passed ordinances requiring hundreds of hours of classroom training to obtain a massage license, the obvious intention being to make it more difficult for "amateurs" to work in parlors.

It is much better now with the internet and resources such as TER:  less guess-work and much less possibility of being disappointed

While one response was similar of "switch" I have never understood why nude-reverse has not caught on in the U.S. although Nuro which is a bit closer is starting to gain.

I really really miss the adult body nude-reverse parlors especially in Mississauga (Toronto airport area and 80-90 yr old very liberal mayor).   The problem advertising it in the U.S. of course is the licensing laws for massage.

In Canada with zillions of beautiful nude-reverse parlor gals (fully licensed not a legal issue), do as good real massage as some of the LMTs I've had in the U.S.  

I realize I am odd and my interest is more high touch intimacy vs the usual stuff.  I love giving caring massage to attractive women (doesn't have to be sexual).   I love Esalen massage and have taught couples and get great massage from some things I can even do in a lap dance at a strip club.   Esalan is about caring for the person mind and body expressed in caring touch massage and is not in itself sexual (no penetration).   Of course I've also taught G spot massage but that is different from traditional Esalen.  

Of course the Happy ending is just standard and never pay for it separately by any tip, although probably not a bawdy house issue even if was in Canada now.    

I will be exploring some options in SD in a few weeks while on a business trip and will get back to Canada this summer when hot in Phoenix and nice in Canada - no snow and cold like now.  I have baiscally given up in Phoenix and with the extreme legal situations but am exploring some options in SD from another board all related to massage.

1a. Authenticity 10/10 (I know I'm cheating by adding another option, but I want a provider to be real with me. I know a lot of this is a sort of "suspension of disbelief" for most guys, but I'd rather a provider be herself around me. Maybe it's just me, but very important to me)
1b. Kissing 10/10 (I look for intimacy, so this is up there for me, but very relative to who's "grading" I suppose)
2. Massage table 8/10 (it just works better imo and makes for a better session. I am there for a massage after all)
3. Incall 9/10 (makes for a more intimate overall experience imo, and that's what I'm looking for)
4. DATY 10/10 (I love pleasuring a woman, so it's one of my very favorite things to do)
5. Nude massage 8/10 (allows for easy access to the above ^^^)
6. Body slides 7/10 (adds to the intimacy of the massage definitely, so I rather enjoy them)
7. Tongue kissing 5/10 (honestly,  my experience with this has been primarily in a drunken state, so even though I really enjoy kissing, this variety isn't really for me haha. But I'm down if the chick isn't sloppy like my past experiences haha)
8. Topless massage 5/10 (I'm an ass man myself, so this, although nice, isn't a deal breaker of any kind)
9. Blow job 7.5/10 (obviously this is a fantastic portion of the massage, but to be quite honest, I'm looking for more than just the purely sexual aspect of the massage. Relaxation, connection with the provider, and sensuality are much high priorities to me)
10. Hand job 6/10 (same applies as above, but I much prefer bbbj hahaha)
11. Prostate massage 5/10 (I do really enjoy butt play, just not on the inside)
12. Outcall 2/10 (always feels too cold and clinical to me. Don't care for out calls at all)
13. Refreshments 1/10 (this is literally the last thing on my mind when I'm going to see a provider haha. If she would like something, that totally changes this ranking, but as far as myself, I couldn't care less)
 

the list of actions you mention is all fine, but in FBSM, the ending is most important to me. not interested in jackhammering, or hurried jerking. and it really helps if the giver is really concerned with my pleasure.

Body slides- 8
kissing - 9  (but with tongue
prostate massage - 0
Hand job - 9 (if that's the most I can get
Blow job - 10
massage table - 5
Outcall - 0
In-call - 10
DATY - 10 of course
Refreshments - 2
Nude massage - 10
Topless massage - 8  but I prefer the masseuse to be nude too