have you ever bartered with any escort If so, with what?
Actually, it was her idea. I helped her with screening (not all of it, just checking references) and got a free session every month. It was nice for a while.
And I've done a lot of bartering in other aspects. But bartering with a provider is always a trade down UNLESS you're just getting rid of something that really has no value. Like cheap booze.
if you do get into a situation where she needs something you have or can do, price your services appropriately and let her pay you. Then use the funds toward a date with her or someone else at your choosing
every instance I've heard of with respect to barter has left someone unhappy in the end....
don't even try to do it.
You see, she has a clear idea of what her time and effort is worth as a professional. You do not, as evidenced by your question. You do not even know what you have to barter with, let alone a market to back up your claims of value.
Without a clear market value for both sides, barter leaves one or both feeling either devalued or short-changed.
Stick to cash transactions is my advice.
The key is a win/win scenario for both parties. The girl needs to know that she is getting a fair trade since her rates are posted for all to see.
But trust is key here. I don't do this unless I know the girl, except for a few cases where a girl referred another p4p girl to me that I would have paid to see otherwise.
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I would consider it if it was something a) that I already wanted, and b) was comparable in price to what my sessions would be. That criteria is almost never met, so I wouldn't go looking to barter. But, if someone presented me with say, the newest pair of AUTHENTIC Louboutins, I might be so inspired!
I traded a used car for several sessions.
I want to get my world rocked! Period!
If I do my homework and know her donation for the time I request, and ensure that the envelope is full to that amount, I have some assurance that I get my world rocked.
If I attempt to barter, maybe I get what I want, maybe I get something close to that because she thinks "what is with this cheap bastard".
All I want her to be thinking about is "how can I make this clients day, so he'll be aching to see me again"? I'll be happy, and she'll see me again.
This is really a simple arrangement, why fuck with perfection?
They can really manage to be professional while bartering or negotiating with johns. For some bizarre reason, you think these things are win/lose for them. They wouldn't say yes to these offers if they felt it didn't benefit them, would they?
The gals I know in this biz don't enter into such agreements by tanking sessions like you think they do. They are professionals and wouldn't think about doing it. Their rep matters to them.
I guess it's jealousy in your case that I still get my world rocked and pay less than you.
Think about this. Do you really think LR was tanking her bartered sessions?
Look, you don't have any experience in this area. So why comment on it
And for that very reason I detest car salesmen. Understand that I must travel to see a provider, the last thing I want to do after I've invested time and money to travel to see a lady is to take the chance of the lady thinking I'm a cheap bastard and want to talk her down off of her stated rate. If it works for you, then great have at it. I don't care to be perceived as cheap, because I'm not cheap, if it doesn't bother you, then that's great. These ladies have determined that their time is worth said amount, I feel if I try to talk them off of that then I'm saying that they aren't worth that, and if I do that then I take the chance that they will tank. I have money, I can't take it with me when I go. This is my cosen hobby and I enjoy each and every moment, why fuck it up to save a few bucks. And really, c'Mon man, this really is a simple arrangement, if you want to take the chance on fucking it up for yourself, then by all means proceed sir.You play your game, I'll play mine, pal.
I'm not jealous, that would imply that I try to talk a lady down from her price point and fail. Jealousy is the ugliest of emotions, I am below average in looks but I am not ugly.
Evidently, you enjoy trying to jew a lady down and make her feel as if she's not worthy of her stated donation. That is petty, in my book puts you in the same category as a car salesman, and in case you haven't read my prior posts, I think that car salesmen are pond scum.
If you can't afford her donation for the time you wish to spend with her, then find a cheeper hooker, try BP. If you can't afford your hobby, find another hobby.
There have been tons of threads about negotiating rates. This is not one of them. Who said anything about talking a lady down on her rates, or cheapening anything. A barter is a trade. A hobbyist has something a provider needs, and trades for it. A car, a computer, web design, photography, home repair, mechanic service, dental/medical services, accounting, attorney services, etc. etc. Many in the hobby do this. Many providers seek out these trades. If you don't do it or have no use for it fine, but how did you twist this thread into a rate negotiating, cheapening thread??
LR used to talk about trading services for dental work, medical procedures, auto repair and yard service. Web site design and photography are common services traded for, which directly relate to the escort's business, but there are all kinds of things that can be traded. The main thing is that both sides feel they are getting a good deal. Bartering goes bad when one side feels cheated, or that they got the worse end of the deal.
I haven't personally done it (yet) because none of the providers I see have been in need of my services. However, I have bartered my services with folks outside the hobby, and it has usually been a win/win situation.
TER does not allow barter related posts, but other sites do. This discussion about bartering doesn't break TER rules but if someone posted on the ISO board, or one of the regional boards, or ad boards, actually offering or looking for a barter, the thread would get pulled. On another hobby site I visit there is actually a whole board just for bartering. Hobbyists post services or items they have, and providers post about what they need.
What is the criteria you use to determine if the bartering is going to be good for you? Also how do you know if the person that you are bartering with is honorable and beyond reproach so that you know that you are getting a good deal?
I'm not a professional photographer but I am an amateur. I've had a few ladies ask me to do photo shoots for them. I generally get discounted or free session(s) for my work. I never ask a lady to barter for their service but if someone asks me then I'll consider it.