Lmfao....
If I enrolled in an online Divinity School and became an ordained minister in some Protestant sect of Christianity, would screening be more intensive than it is for me now? So far I haven't had many problems, but...what do you think? Would you providers be less receptive?
And, fellow gentlemen (using the term in its loosest sense so as to include all of you lowlife degenerates), have any of you been ordained or joined any profession that hindered your sporting activities?
in the church of hobby.
On a serious note, although I don't care much about religion at all, I don't see how their profession has any relevance to being verified. To me, a believing in a deity has absolutely nothing to do with morals, values, good samaritans, etc.
It's the same as believing that the sun exists has no correlation to us being expected to be a good person.
Not that I'm trying to follow some religious practices or do god's work, but I actually do simulate procreation & simulate multiplying by engaging in the hobby. I hang out with escorts just like how jesus hung out with Mary Magdeline the escort. I drink of wine and get blasted red faced, just like how so many biblical figures did. One thing I can't do is spread a ton of false promises, bs, and exaggerated claims with a straight face to a large number of people like how so many ministers do. I'd need a thick skin for that
I certainly have no notion of a little guy in the sky playing puppeteer and/of punisher of the puppets. But just like we assume a heliocentric solar system with Earth's rotation causing it turn each side of the planet in and out of sunlight, I stil am comfortable using words like "sunrise" and "sunset" when talking about transitioning into night or day, I can see talking about "right" and "wrong" and even "sin (in terms of its original meaning of 'mistake') with some degree of sincerity.
One thing I'm learning through the hobby is the difference between those providers who view their craft as an artistic exploration of seduction and erotic pleasure and others who view it solely as a way of making a buck. The experience of the client seems to be equally rich with either " type" and those providers seeing it as just a way to garner some cash do quite well or even better.
So that's one aspect of how I'm looking at it. I doubt if Jerry Falwell was too caught up in the fairytale really, and even Sister Teresa had lots of doubt.
Since when was the "creator" of anything supposed to equate to chastity, moral values, etc? If creator does exist, it seems he's a passive one or just doesn't give a rats ass and lays back watching the clock work unfold.
It's an unproven assumption at best. Most religions promote this bull shit concept without a shred of evidence.
According to religious people, ministers doing god's work would be expected to be good. Not me, I don't consider them any different from anyone else.
In fact, I feel priests and ministers put themselves on the pedestal too much, mostly pretending to be someone they are not and preaching that "our deity is wiser and nicer than all" nonsense to the choir while molesting little boys or something.
FYI, I built a sand castle the other day at the beach. The sand castle, if it had a breath of life to it, would think that I'm the creator. I'm neither too evil nor too good, I'm an average drunk. Right before I left the beach, I stomped on the sand castle, leveling it down to all out the way we found it. I guess that makes me Lucifer in the eyes of some people? LO
Lmfao....
Don't know what seminary you attended Rev Drunken Asian, but you must have missed a few New Testament classes.
There is nothing in scripture that states Mary Mag was a prostitute.
That little rumor was manufactured by the church years after the fact as a means to limit womens voices and leadership in the emerging institutional church.
However, I totally agree with your perspective.
Jesus certainly knew how to keep a party going and was a gifted wine maker.
And I suspect he'd rather hang out with the ladies and gents in this little community than the phonies and family value types .
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Pope Gregory the great declared from the book of Luke that all three sinners, Martha's sister Mary and another unknown sinning woman are one and the same. It is indeed named in the scriptures and the Pope said it himself.
Of course, just like how these churches feel they can reverse any belief they don't want to believe the Catholic Church decided that these women are not the same. It's debatable yes but then so is the very concept of Jesus being God. No one can even verify the ancestry of Jesus because the book of mathew and Luke state two different genealogies along the way. I find it absurd how a supposed holy figure can't even pass down proper documentation in that book..
Also, remember that this is coming from a church that almost burned galileo alive for claiming that earth revolves around the sun. If it doesn't fit their beliefs, even when factual, they just reverse their beliefs! lolol
It is why I believe that science is the truth the light and the way.
It doesn't tell us that were unworthy, or that we need to compare clothing on Sundays. It just helps us live better lives and hobby safer. it wasn't some blind prayer that found a cure to gonnherhia or prolonging lives of hiv patients, it's modern medicine performing miracles.
As STPhomer correctly stated, there's nothing in any of the gospels including Luke stating that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. As for Gregory's opinion on the subject... it wasn't doctrine, thus it was just his opinion. Lots of popes have messed up over the years. They're human; they make mistakes. The first "pope", Peter, sure messed big-time, didn't he? Yet he was chosen to lead the church anyway.
If you're looking for an institution that doesn't make a mistake, ever, good luck finding it. Science has made all kinds of mistakes over the years
Also, how does a girl have enough money to fund Jesus's activities? She was sexual, a sinner, and most likely an escort. Just cuz another Pope claims otherwise doesn't make her not so cuz it says so contradicting themselves in the passages. She was believed to be funding him. So essentially she was his sugar mama.
But of course "believers" will try to spin that nonsense however way they see fit just like how believers think a dead human corpse can still perform miracles or that there's some invisible man answering their prayers... Which by the way NIH studies have shown are ineffective.
Why follow the teachings of a bullshit story just cuz it's a feel good story. We can get plenty of those stories from aesops fables, little red riding hood, and three little pigs. lol
Look into who Krishna Dionisys Osiris Horus: Born of a virgin, buried for 3 days, resurrected, king of kings, performed miracles... Sounds familiar?
Jesus wasn't even born on Christmas but pegans fit that bs story into more bs story. Jesus was a typical delusional human with a god complex at best, not some almighty. Now just a dead corpse.
no need for people to assume ministers are anything good or have morals. They are just delusional normal human beings who sometimes molest little boys. They hobby too. Nothing wrong with that imo
... to berate others' beliefs, go right ahead. We're coming up on Rosh Hashana. Maybe you can take advantage of that opportunity to bash the Jews. And don't forget the Muslims! Why not be an Equal Opportunity Basher?
But why stop at bashing the monotheistic religions? Now you're trashing women, ala "... how does a girl have enough money to fund Jesus' activities?" Of course! Any woman with some money is "most likely an escort"! That's the obvious conclusion, reached through scientific thinking, eh? 
But it was a pretty poor attempt at hiding your failure as a Biblical scholar. 
John 20 doesn't say anything about MM being a prostitute, nor do any of the other Gospels... contrary to your earlier post.
Sometimes a little research helps before stating something as fact.
You missed the WHOLE point. It's not me making this up. Western churches have infact been claiming Mary Mag was a sinful women with 7 sins etc and a prostitute. Even scholars assumed she was an escort for many many years!
Where there's smoke there's fire. And they used this as a reason that the comical jesus can forgive anyone and anyone can repent. Most eastern churchess didn't. They then backpaddled and now claim she's a saint. It just tells me further that the bible nonsense is all created by man to fit their stories and needs? It's a comic book.
Whether she really was or not is not the point cuz I dismiss majority of that biblical bs as nothing but hogwash anyway. The point is the CHURCHES THEMSELVES CLAIMED she was an escort with 7 sins who needed to be saved and that the savior is so dam great and all that. She fell to his feet so she apparently has a foot fetish and enjoyed seeing his res-Erection too.
Hilarious people actually believe that and not the tooth fairy fiction.
The whole point of the thread is that whether you're a Jew a Christian or a Muslim or Buddhist follower, being a "believer" doesn't make you a saint, a good person, or for that matter have any moral values.
I believe in the possibility of a deity but it has ZERO relevance to the level of my morals. Why? Because the deity never said anything about no rules. Deity allows natural disasters. To die of natural causes as well as being murdered, killed in an accident etc. There's no deity protecting anyone more over another cuz even innocent people get killed and there are collateral damage during a war. Nothing divine about who becomes successful or rich either cuz there are plenty of non religious people living the good life.
It was human beings who made up all that 10 commandment bull crap and passed it down generations.
It somehow became accepted that being religious means you have high morals and all that utter BS but considering anyone who believes anything else is committing the ultimate sin against the other beliefs, I suppose that means everyone who isn't following your particular religion is a bad person and yeah we're all going to hell for not following the other beliefs!
And nice try turning this into an ad hominem about me rather than sticking to the point.
A minister can be a hobbyist and I'd actually think nothing of it as long as he's not shoving his bs ideologies down my throat. I care more about that latter part than him hobbying. There are a lot more ministers who are hobbyists than you think. How do I know this? I just know, don't ask for details. lo
... so many contradictions in a single post! But it makes it difficult to understand just WHAT you believe.
Whatever it is, however, it's clear you have strong feelings about it. You know what? So do the people you mock, without your really understanding what they believe, and why.
But I'll give you one insight into Christians, or at least the Christians I know: they don't think of themselves as "saints". Actually, the opposite. They also realize that calling oneself "Christian" doesn't itself make someone a good person, or give them moral values.
Since you know something of the Bible, you may know Romans. So you know that the "10 commandments" stuff isn't the end-all for Christians as it was for the Israelites. And you also know that Christians are asked to do only one thing to "fulfill the law." Just one. And anyone who does that cannot do wrong to their neighbor.
Whether you're a Christian or not; whether you believe in a deity or not... that's not such a bad idea, is it?
A person who rejects jesus is not automatically an atheist.
Christians claim jesus came to fulfill the law. Oh yeah! But guess who came thousands of years before claiming the exact same thing: to fulfill the law. Egyptian sun god HORUS! He also has very similar attributes to jesus: Born of a virgin isis, 3 stars, raised the dead, crucified, burried for 3 days, and resurrected. Sounds like the story of jesus, no matter how feel-good it may be, is a copy cat story from egyptian myths. At the very least Christianity has roots from these.
Of course, christians claim that it's their original story and that Horus stories are too different blah blah. When was the last time a student guilty of plagiarism ever admitted to it?
They don't need to admit it because we already know that Jesus was never born on December 25th, but was primarily changed due to Pagan myths and practices. So what about the rest of the stories? Oh yeah, the story deepends. Jesus, an ordinary man, was made into a deity by Christians and the fictitious stories were padded on just to legitimize the bs. For example, the geneology of Jesus is flawed. Jesus also screamed out "my god why have you foresaken me", so how can this guy even claim to be deity?
Again, a person who rejects jesus is not automatically an atheist. A person who believes in a possibility of a deity isn't a theist either. For many people in the world other than Christians, believing in a deity does not equate to that deity being Jesus. Many in fact reject jesus. So when we say we don't believe in jesus, that doesn't make that person an atheist.
That also does not mean we believe that god should be either good or bad. Nobody really knows. Anybody claiming to know if god really is good or bad or neutral are feeding some serious bull shit. Just take look around this world and it makes me think, really? Mass murders, torture, killings, rape, war, poverty, hunger, white collar crime, blue collar crime, human trafficking, mutilations... An all powerful being can just sit on his ass allowing innocent people to become victims of such horrific crimes? LOL That's why my personal view is that god, if he exists, is neither good or bad and probably doesn't give a shit.
A massive study from the NIH found that intercessary prayers don't actually work. In other words, prayers are bull shit! So why do all these delusional religious people constantly pray on a sunday? On god's day off of all days? LOL
All these 8-fold path bs from buddha, 10 commandments, bible passages, teachings from greek mythologies are nothing but "Feel-Good" laws created by man. There's no evidence a supreme being actually came down from heaven and gave these laws.
Every single one of these successfully popular religions state the same thing and they are all "feel good" cuz supposedly it makes a deity a good deity who's supposed to take care of us if we do something good but punishes if we do something bad. It's not always that simple, christians say, but that's the general assumption. That assumption is false obviously. Because we don't have any evidence that a deity said anything about no laws, we don't know for sure if the deity is really good or actually gives a shit anything.
Act of nature kills people randomly and there really are no laws governing who lives long and becomes successful other than if you follow and benefit from the teachings of modern science.
That is why you need to convert to science and ditch your religion.
If you're a wealthy man, you only have a very very slim chance of going to heaven though, according to the bible passages. But according to science, if you're a rich man, you'll likely have more pussy than you ever dreamed of, your offsprings will likely score higher on SAT, live in better neighborhoods, have a genreally more positive outlook in life, and probably live longer too.
Worship science and you will be saved! Modern medicine has prolonged our life span greater than we ever imagined. Science is the truth, the light, and the way
But I don't consider science and belief in God to be contradictory. Nor do some of the greatest scientists throughout history. Like Nicolaus Copernicus, for example, who dedicated his most famous work, "On the Revolution of the Celestial Orbs", in which he covered the theory of heliocentricity, to Pope Paul III.
I am degreed in science, I've taught science classes, and I greatly respect science and scientists. But I don't worship science.
As for who has the shortest path into heaven... remember that Jesus said "prostitutes and tax collectors" will get into the kingdom of God before many other people. So providers and IRS employees have a leg up!
Science leads us to the truth asymptomaticly. There's factual evidence not assumptions or guesses made by the pope.
I see more credibility in it than some comic book from Luke or Mark or Mohammed or whateve... lol
Most of the women who make their way through life as providers soon develop a degree of savvy that allows them to easily comprehend ideas that you would find inconceivable.
Betting your involvement wouldn't raise an eyebrow unless you spend time trying to witness or convert someone.
Would make for an interesting defense if questioned by LE : "I'm just here to provide guidance to her officer, nothing else."
... before accepting a first date. For example: ISIS Security Guard; Enforcement Officer for The Family; Distributor of Recreational Drugs. Also statements of work experience such as "20 years' experience in automobile license plate fabrication" might make a provider less receptive.
But I don't think being Protestant minister would trigger more intensive screening. So feel free to pursue that calling without fear of interrupting your "sporting activities"!
To slip into a confessional booth and find either WB or DA on the other side of the window!
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"Congratulate me Father, for I have sinned"
If I ever was a priest or minister or pastor or whatever, it would be solely for the purpose of blasting religious hypocrisy, flawed baseless beliefs. Let human beings accept themselves to just be themselves. I think we can all be good without needing some 2 dollar prayer book as a moral compass. If that's the only thing keeping a person from going astray, I think there's something wrong with him/her.
There are many drunks in the Bible drank of wine. So there's no religious reason not to drink. If a guy came in confessing of being drunk, I'd congratulate him and offer another drink and a taxi ride back home.
Jesus hung out with escort so why can't we? LOL
Why try to fight the oldest profession known to man, as if it's going to make any dent?
... you won't make any profit. That is a scientific fact.
I think you need to take a civics course.
There are many drunks in the Bible drank of wine. So there's no religious reason not to drink. If a guy came in confessing of being drunk, I'd congratulate him and offer another drink and a taxi ride back home.
Jesus hung out with escort so why can't we? LOL
Why try to fight the oldest profession known to man, as if it's going to make any dent?
be the prophet that I am. From the mind of the divine, to your ears as spoken by me. At least that way I can pass on the extra schooling, keep my business and not be a hypocrite. Hey... I could change my name to Hosea and bless one of our beautiful ladies of ill repute with marriage; it may be divine intent. Just please, let her name not be Gomer.
PS: Sorry for the biblical names, they just happened to fit the demented premise
And you have to admit that dealing with theological dogma is far less restrictive than dealing with the Pythagorean Theorem. So counseling the miserable has a lot more flexibility than, say, constructing wind farm equipment. So I'm thinking being a preacher would be far less rigorous a discipline than building windmills.
And most screeners have no idea what a millwright is, so you always have to explain it to them. Seems it would be so much easier to say you were a man of God. Everybody knows what that is.
Of course I could be a real estate agent. No education required for that.
Anyway, I thought I was. I was stoned and for a minute thought I was in the front seat, and not the back.