I usually woke up naked in the kitchen, so I guess I got laid.
Questions for fellow hobbyists:
What % of hobbyists do you think take Viagra or Cialis when seeing a provider?
For those who do take it or have in the past do you tell the provider that you are on it?
Do you experience any negative side affects? Either short term (1 day) or longer term (more than a day)
Even if you do not suffer from ED would you take one just to enhance performance?
interested in feedback!!
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It reminds me of the following expression from golf:
Driving for show; putting for dough
Viagra can be great for a fabulous erection, but I, and many others on this board, have found it can make it very difficult to actually cum. I am 61 years old and thought I needed it, but I have found I am much better off without it.
Good luck.
I used to go on a lot of "fuck fests" where I would see four, five, or even six different women in the same day. I was hoping it could cut down on my "recovery period" between sessions.
I've been rather disappointed in the results, aside from it giving me dry mouth, a slightly flushed feeling, and a nasty headache, I found it didn't really do that much for me in the performance department, and as others have opined, it made it even more difficult to cum, as if seeing 5-6 women in a day didn't already make it hard to cum. lol
Nown that I am mid fifties, I still don't need it for "normal" sex, but I will occasionally take about a third of a Cialis tab if I plan on seeing more than two ladies in a single day, it does help a bit with the recovery period and without the side effects of Viagra. I will confess I am not positive that the effects are really anything more than a placebo effect in my case, they are dramatic enough for me to really be sure.
Seeing 5-6 women in a day, and having fucked thousands of women. I'll work hard to try to get to that level, probably never make it but I'll enjoy trying. I guess CR will be a good start
I've found Cialis to be pretty great! No problem with cumming, only some minor indigestion at times, and I quickly get as hard as when I was 20 (just turned 67) and stay that way until finished. Tend to get some morning wood the next day too. One dose seems to be effective for almost 2 days. I haven't been diagnosed with ED, but just find it makes the experience more reliable and satisfying. I'm not sure about recovery time. Doesn't seem to be any different except for the fact that it's always easier to get hard, whether recovering or not.
The expense is a major consideration. The 10mg prescription I had was costing around $300 for 10 pills, which I was cutting in half. Asked my doctor about the 'daily use' version (2.5 or 5mg) for about the same $300 but for 30 pills and went to that a while back. You can get a free trial (apparently once a year), by presenting the pharmacy with the ad. Even though it's advertised as 'daily use', you can still just use it whenever your want. Well worth it, in my opinion.
I found a place online tht sells the 20 MG for about 90 cents. They work great. I order 270 at that price then split them with 2 friends. The funny thing is is that even though I order 270 pills, they are calling me and emailing about 45 days later asking if I need a refill.
The expense is a major consideration. The 10mg prescription I had was costing around $300 for 10 pills, which I was cutting in half. Asked my doctor about the 'daily use' version (2.5 or 5mg) for about the same $300 but for 30 pills and went to that a while back. You can get a free trial (apparently once a year), by presenting the pharmacy with the ad. Even though it's advertised as 'daily use', you can still just use it whenever your want. Well worth it, in my opinion.
Nope...he said that it's just an old wives tale that no one else has heard about.
Sorry 
Watermelons actually target the cause of most erectile dysfunction rather than temporarily overriding the symptoms.
Burdock root is also great as a tea drunk 2-3 times daily.
I usually woke up naked in the kitchen, so I guess I got laid.
Pisses me off that maybe 15% of the male population has some ED problems, and I have to be one of them. I have no problem when I'm alone, but I'm still nervous when with someone, so I need help.
I wasn't happy with Viagra or any of the other pills. Headache, flush feeling (blood vessels in the head are closer to the skin's surface than anywhere else on the body), difficulty coming, etc.
I decided to try injections. After some initial problems with not hitting the right spot, it's now working great. I can vary the length of time I have an erection by varying the dosage. If I want an erection for an hour, .20 ml. For two hours, .30. For three, .35 to .40. I wouldn't dare go past three hours. Look up a video on Youtube if you want to see what happens when you get a priapism.
One nice thing is that I can go back to full erection after cumming, which I hadn't been able to do since my 20's. Also, it's not difficult for me to cum.
Surprisingly, providers I've seen are used to guys doing injections. One likes to watch.
With no stimulation at all, such as working around the house, I'll be at about 1/3 staff. Look at some photos and-bing!--it's at full staff. Hardness is better than with pills. It's like being in my 20's again.
Injections have been around since the 1980's. I suspect they're not as popular as pills because you have to stick a needle into your penis, and also the risk of having a priapism is much higher if you're careless with the dosage. Nothing like doctors having to cut your penis open to remove blood that's turned to jelly. 
Because I have a mental block to condoms and I haven't O'd vaginally since 6 months prior to my divorce, I thought perhaps Cialis would help. It didn't help, i'm just screwed up in the head, huh? I should probably see a shrink, or perhaps just see more hookers and try to beat it out of me. Doh! I made a funny!
But I keep them around for sharing, just in case.
I think it's fine to take to "enhance performance" (or if you're nervous and not sure), but if you take it so that you can spend every minute of the session like a jackhammer... A significant number of the ladies find that to be a blacklisting offense (although to be fair, usually only when combined with a bad attitude.)
Some guys like to use the time they're paying for to actually fuck a woman?
And a "significant number" of women would BL that dude?
I think you're in the wrong world....this is P4P
I think it's fine to take to "enhance performance" (or if you're nervous and not sure), but if you take it so that you can spend every minute of the session like a jackhammer... A significant number of the ladies find that to be a blacklisting offense (although to be fair, usually only when combined with a bad attitude.)
With a viagra dick...hurts like hell. Notice she did not say anything about an un-enhanced dick. It is P$P but hookers are human.
Then nothing should surprise me.
You have my email addy...I'll send you my PayPal info and you can make that deposit.
Then you're more than welcome to drill away. I may not like it...but then I am being compensated to just do my (actually your) thing and move along.
As well...I may not see you in the future LOL OTOH if I like it I may give you some of that money back
Oh...will we do lunch afterwards?
When pain is involved. and make no apology for that.
I deal with fat, with ugly and with some, really bad technique and to allow a guy to use my body for his gratification, that is what I get paid for. Not pain. If I advertised S&M then sure, but I do not.
That's my whole point on the topic!
However when some john shows up you wouldn't necessarily know if his intent is to go at it for the hour (or whatever timeframe he bought). So either you (and that is your prerogative) direct him to something else...or you suck it up for the time. If he contacts you again...I trust that you wouldn't reply to any further requests.
At least that is how I handle PITA (pun intended) clients
I deal with fat, with ugly and with some, really bad technique and to allow a guy to use my body for his gratification, that is what I get paid for. Not pain. If I advertised S&M then sure, but I do not.
I find that to be absolutely bizarre.....
I realize that there are a lot of SWs whose strategy seems to be able to put out as little as possible....
who prefer to waste as much time as they can getting some guys to just talk, who prefer to be a pseudo therapist or girlfriend
but good fucking lord!
blacklisting! for actually wanting the ass in motion in P4P.....
I can see it if some of these "providers" who really don't want to put out would choose not to see someone like me because of my preference for actual sex.... who would put me on their personal DNS list - and I respect that
let them fulfill the needs of some of these guys who just want their hands held - there's a niche market for that - hell based on what I read on the boards probably a big market....
but
****blacklisting**** ???
all I can say is thank goddess for k-agencies....
She probably only meant she'd put the guy on her personal DNS list. At least I hope so. But true blacklisting for such an "offense" would be grounds to, well, blacklist her.
It's too bad when people simply can't get their terms right. I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt here.
And now I know why you use agencies.
Having a hard time finding independents that will see you?
From your extensive history going back years it seems you have burnt a few bridges.
Why you bemoan the other side of P$P is a mystery. Why not live and let live and quit with bitchy little remarks
I think that's amazing....
I am not aware of any burned bridges except for one - and that one's good riddance - major high octane DQ that anyone would be well advised to avoid
as far as using agencies, it's simple -
I like a girl to look like her pics not be 10 years older and 20 lbs heavier
I like them to be on the younger side
I like the generally much higher security and better screening
I like the better rates
and I like the fact that the agencies I use are always wanting me to be happy or to make it up to me if I am not
it's called "customer service"
and they do it much better than a whole helluva lot of indies....
REALLY ??!! You mean there are some women/hookers who don't want to PROVIDE ??!! That's Unbelievable !!! I thought ALL of these fine women just LOVE to have their Holes used like the inside of a Butter Churn !!! No wonder No One wants to see Me !! WWHHEEWWW !!! I thought it was just my Horrible Sense Of Humor !
I think it's fine to take to "enhance performance" (or if you're nervous and not sure), but if you take it so that you can spend every minute of the session like a jackhammer... A significant number of the ladies find that to be a blacklisting offense (although to be fair, usually only when combined with a bad attitude.)
"spend every minute of the session like a jackhammer" - i.e., treat the lady like "Me Tarzan, you Fleshlight."
"usually only when combined with a bad attitude" - i.e., the client is a chemically enhanced jerk
Are those blacklist worthy offenses? Only if you view the ladies as people deserving the dignity and respect due every person.
Today's lesson brought to you by the letters R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
It is a public "outing" of a client's personal information, which can cost him his job and his marriage, among other little things. A true black list should only be used for guys who rob, threaten or physically abuse a provider. All the rest is for DNS lists or back channel.
It's too bad there's this continuing failure to understand terms here.
Their penis is colder than a normal erection and can have a dusky appearance and can be as rigid as a steel bar.
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