LE can ask to search anything, but unless they have probable cause or a warrant they can't search with out consent. Once consent is given they can search with impunity. And they are not required to be gentle. One last thing if something was lost or damaged during said search because it was consented to, they are not liable. Always refuse searches, even if they have a warrant. It establishes it was not voluntarily and increases your recourses. She was foolish, but once she waived her 4th amendment rights, the officer broke no law in the search. You can voluntarily wave your rights and it almost always if not always stupid to do so.
love you, but what you did was real stupid. Your property could have been damaged. There could have been drug paraphernalia near by that could be mistaken as yours, or anything like that. Never resist, but never consent. Next time say, "I don't consent to searches, am I free to go?" It will likely get you to your flight faster and it will reduce your risk. The officer needs reasonable suspicion to detain you, and probable cause or a warrant to search you. If they have that nothing you say to that unless you say or do something stupid will affect the officer searching your bag or detaining you
Everyone should read 2Legit2Quit's post from earlier tonight.
Didn't want to bury this response at the end of the long thread below.
The one thing I can't afford in this game is to be arrested. So ... I take what some have told me are rather extreme measures to make my playing as LEO proof as possible.
One of my rules has always been to never do an incall with an escort who is new to me.
Now I'm seriously questioning whether it is ever safe to do an incall even with a regular.
...being questioned by cops after leaving a suspected provider's room. In another post in the same thread, he said: "After a few visitors have left from her room and cooperated they then arrest her."
Yeah, right. Most hobbyists know to STFU when stopped by cops after they leave a room. Unless there's a hidden camera in the room, cops are just fishing. All a guy should say is: "Am I being detained? Am I free to leave?" STFU!!!!!!!!
Of course, if the bellhop works at the Hillbilly Hilton, he may have a point (other than the one on the top of his head).
Besides, passing on someone’s private information without a warrant is against federal law.
The only thing you should say to the cops, ever, is "I do not answer questions from law enforcement" and "no, I do not consent to a search." 90% of the time when someone is getting popped either on the supply or demand side it's because someone ran their mouth. Trust me, I've been in handcuffs sitting on the curb more than once, and they had to let me go. Unless they catch you with your dick inside and money in her hand, they generally don't have shit unless you give it to them. Do not help them make their case and most of the time you'll be straight.
Yeah, right. Most hobbyists know to STFU when stopped by cops after they leave a room. Unless there's a hidden camera in the room, cops are just fishing. All a guy should say is: "Am I being detained? Am I free to leave?" STFU!!!!!!!!
Of course, if the bellhop works at the Hillbilly Hilton, he may have a point (other than the one on the top of his head).
Who's to say any money is being exchanged? Who cares if a woman wants to fool around in a hotel often. Maybe she's a nympho
But if you don't feel confident..
Don't do it..
I just don't care. You shouldn't either.
If any hotel actually did this, they broke about half a dozen Federal Privacy laws and about a dozen state laws across the country. They do this to only to their female guests? That in itself is against federal and state laws. They do this to their frequent guests, another crock of shit. Most hotels want their guests to come back, they like repeat business and will even cut special deal. I stay in hotels every week so, I know. I have a special deal with the International Hotels Group in all of their properties, same rate in any city in the US and another special rate for Europe. They are the largest hotel chain in the world.
Suppose, these hotels don’t get any European guests either. European privacy laws are hell of lot stricter than the US. I do not know any hotel chain without hotels across the world. Even Motel 6 has overseas operation. So, if you do the same to European female (since 2Legit2Quit's has established this done to only female guests), they can sue under the EU laws because they operations in the EU.
Cut the crap dude.
Hey, 2Legit2Quit’s, why don’t post the name of the hotel chain. I may have stayed in one of their hotels and I am going to sue them.
You are saying you a free to break the law... under the protection of the law.
Suppose, these hotels don’t get any European guests either. European privacy laws are hell of lot stricter than the US. I do not know any hotel chain without hotels across the world. Even Motel 6 has overseas operation. So, if you do the same to European female (since 2Legit2Quit's has established this done to only female guests), they can sue under the EU laws because they operations in the EU.
Cut the crap dude.
Hey, 2Legit2Quit’s, why don’t post the name of the hotel chain. I may have stayed in one of their hotels and I am going to sue them.
Fungy may be right or he may be wrong about the fundamental issue. But his post simply doesn't say anyone is "free to break the law...under the protection of the law."
No one is free to break the law, but there are legal and constitutional protections about what can be done to nab you.
Or are you too dense to get that
The attorney has to prove that fact before, or during the trial.
Can Fungy prove his civil rights were violated, when the hotel chain discriminated against him because he is a woman, After he has been charged with prostitution?
your comment above made no sense. In fact your response make almost no sense either.
over something he did not believe to be true.
Sense never had a foundation on which to be built.
broke someone’s right privacy because I thought they may break the law. If you had a bit of brain, you would have figured this out. One is misdemeanor and the other is federal crime, disclosing someone’s personal information, that is
5.5Legal Requirements
We reserve the right to disclose any personal information we have concerning you if we are compelled to do so by a court of law or requested to do so by a governmental entity or if we determine it is necessary or desirable to comply with the law or to protect or defend our rights or property in accordance with applicable laws. We also reserve the right to retain personal information collected and to process such personal information to comply with accounting, tax rules and regulations and any specific record retention laws.
In other words they can do just about anything they want with your information. Defend their property is a hole you can drive a semi through.
Hyatt and Hilton are both chains that keep an extensive hooker book and are not hooker friendly.They repopulate their list daily of touring ladies.
Another bit to ponder for the touring ladies. Don't think that homeland security doesn't keep logs of travels. Every time you board, they are scanning your DL/ID info into the system now. And national bus services like greyhound are notorious for stopping for inspections, and there is currently plans in progress for homeland security at more amtrak train stations.
Those greendot cards so many of you ladies are fond of using are constantly red flagged for activity, especially when used in multiple states.
When going in for your DL states now request that you pose in a very specific way, making face scanning and matching to personal info an expedited process, and what is the first thing hotels ask for? DL, and many make hard copies of them for their files
withhold information when compiled by a court. That will be considered contempt of court. The same exact language is present every single contract.
This not, what is being discussed. What is being discussed is a business routinely making information available to LE voluntarily.
or defend our rights or property in accordance with applicable laws.
If they want to protect their property from illegal activity, this doesn't rule out proactively working with the police.
but the truth is federal privacy laws cannot be broken because you wrote something in your company policy. If you read the statutes you will understand. As I said I make living advising companies how to protect Personally Identifiable Information. Business is good. Most people don’t have a clue. Besides the federal 40 states have more stringent protections laws than the fed.
No wonder corporate America is in such bad shape if even one company actually pays you for advice, much less several.
Here are some you need to go read before calling me purveyor bullshit. Read some and understand you ignorant moron:
Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) - Primer for business.
Cable Communications Policy Act of 1984 (Cable Act)
California Senate Bill 1386 (SB 1386) - Chaptered version.
Children's Internet Protection Act of 2001 (CIPA)
Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 (COPPA)
Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (CALEA) - Official CALEA website.
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 (CFAA) law summary. Full text at Cornell
Computer Security Act of 1987 - (Superseded by the Federal Information Security Management Act (FISMA)
Consumer Credit Reporting Reform Act of 1996 (CCRRA) - Modifies the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA).
Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing (CAN-SPAM) Act of 2003 law overview. Text of law at Cornell library
Electronic Funds Transfer Act (EFTA) Summary
Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act (FACTA) of 2003
Fair Credit Reporting Act (Full Text).
Federal Information Security Management Act (FISMA)
Federal Trade Commission Act (FTCA)
Driver's Privacy Protection Act of 1994 . Text of law at Cornell
Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 (ECPA)
Electronic Freedom of Information Act of 1996 (E-FOIA) Discussion as it related to the Freedom of Information Act.
Fair Credit Reporting Act of 1999 (FCRA)
Family Education Rights and Privacy Act of 1974 (FERPA; also know as the Buckley Amendment)
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 (GLBA)
Privacy Act of 1974 - including U.S. Department of Justice Overview
Privacy Protection Act of 1980 (PPA) - Additional discussion at http://www.epic.org/privacy/ppa/.
Right to Financial Privacy Act of 1978 (RFPA)
Telecommunications Act of 1996
Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991 (TCPA) - Text of law at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001 (USA PATRIOT Act)
Video Privacy Protection Act of 1988 discussion and overview. Text of law at: Cornell Law Library.
You ignorant shit heads siting on a dilapidated bar talking shit know everything.
So the University could list my height and weight in a football program. I would hope that in all the ensuing years that rule making eliminated that issue. Or it maybe it is boiler plate language in the letter of intent package.
Simple example of how I decided to waive my privacy right.
Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) - Primer for business.
Cable Communications Policy Act of 1984 (Cable Act)
California Senate Bill 1386 (SB 1386) - Chaptered version.
Children's Internet Protection Act of 2001 (CIPA)
Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 (COPPA)
Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (CALEA) - Official CALEA website.
Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 (CFAA) law summary. Full text at Cornell
Computer Security Act of 1987 - (Superseded by the Federal Information Security Management Act (FISMA)
Consumer Credit Reporting Reform Act of 1996 (CCRRA) - Modifies the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA).
Controlling the Assault of Non-Solicited Pornography and Marketing (CAN-SPAM) Act of 2003 law overview. Text of law at Cornell library
Electronic Funds Transfer Act (EFTA) Summary
Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act (FACTA) of 2003
Fair Credit Reporting Act (Full Text).
Federal Information Security Management Act (FISMA)
Federal Trade Commission Act (FTCA)
Driver's Privacy Protection Act of 1994 . Text of law at Cornell
Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 (ECPA)
Electronic Freedom of Information Act of 1996 (E-FOIA) Discussion as it related to the Freedom of Information Act.
Fair Credit Reporting Act of 1999 (FCRA)
Family Education Rights and Privacy Act of 1974 (FERPA; also know as the Buckley Amendment)
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 (GLBA)
Privacy Act of 1974 - including U.S. Department of Justice Overview
Privacy Protection Act of 1980 (PPA) - Additional discussion at http://www.epic.org/privacy/ppa/.
Right to Financial Privacy Act of 1978 (RFPA)
Telecommunications Act of 1996
Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991 (TCPA) - Text of law at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html
Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001 (USA PATRIOT Act)
Video Privacy Protection Act of 1988 discussion and overview. Text of law at: Cornell Law Library.
You ignorant shit heads siting on a dilapidated bar talking shit know everything.
In fact, waivers as related to privacy are prolific in the electronic age (I don't like this fact, but it is reality). In the example cited on this thread the waiver of certain privacy "rights" is explicit to check in. If you don't agree to the hotel's policy then don't check in, but if you do, you have effected a waiver. Also, many of the statutes and rules you cite have been modified by various court cases and in a couple of cases have been rendered ineffective by both state and federal courts. Many have been modified or heavily revised by lawmakers over the years as well. Maybe you should invest in a subscription to Westlaw (I have one btw) and you can actually read the decisions that have changed the laws you seem to enjoy quoting.
One other thought, if you do indeed advise clients about these issues, you are woefully ignorant and should issue them refunds. So, who is the "shit head talking shit know everything"? Seems to me it is YOU! IMHO, no one on this board should rely on ANYTHING you post when their safety is at stake
google whats a profile name that will make me look like a smart hacker? Unfortunately you dont have the brain to back it up.
Having worked in the world of security I can tell you that the only one spewing forth misinformation is you.
1,2,3 and 4 star hotels are actively engaged with LEO in shutting down the use of their hotels for prostitution and have mandatory classes that employees must take to spot illicit activities that may be occurring.
Some of the more obvious red flags;
Single women checking in.
Checking in before check in time.
Late check outs.
High use of hotel key card in elevators.
Paying for room with cash
Using prepaid cards for check in.
Extending stays.
A quick google check on the phone number they are using for check in.
How often they stay.
And a big one; Women who claim to be self employed during check in but aren't using their tax id # for tax purposes or claiming to be there for business but their rooms aren't being paid for with a corporate account or card.
I am going to have to guess that you dont travel as often as you try to make yourself appear. If you did, you would realize that check in at major hotels takes at least 5-10 minutes, during which time, hotel staff brings up quite a bit of information on that screen that is hidden from your eyes. Information that is shared within their many hotels. You didn't honestly think it takes them 5-10 minutes to check you in to find a room for you did you? No, it doesn't. They have logs on when you have stayed, if there were issues, and all of your habits. Some hotels run social media searches on their guest to meet their needs even more.
Several major, international chains have a hooker book, that is printed daily with all of the touring ladies photos and information from Eros, TER, BP, GLS, and check in staff as well as security looks over this book at the start of each shift. And they know all the tricks to trying to look different. Any lady can tell you that check in time is nerve racking as the staff seems to drag on with the check in process. Ive had several ladies ask me to check in with them as a rouse/beard to cut down on scrutiny.
Two of the largest chains now work specifically with a company that has been hired to study photos that women post to their ads and web sites to help identify which hotels are being used the most. You think every hotel room is basically the same? No. This company can identify exactly where a girl has been when the photos were taken by looking at everything from door locks, lamps, pillow placement, clocks, hinges, and so forth. This company makes a lot of money and has a 99 percent accuracy rate.
The only hotels that are not as quick to jump on the hooker hunt band wagon are the 5 star hotels. Some of them even have built in private entrances for more discretionary purposes and they dont care what name you check in under, as long as it matches the credit card you are using to pay, and then some of them will gladly accept cash for incidental charges as well as room cost.
Do you seriously believe that they care if they are violating civil rights or privacy laws? No. They don't. They are banking that the women utilizing their rooms for illegal purposes won't fight it, or won't be smart enough to realize their rights have been violated.
Biggest pet peeve? People who are ignorant and steer others wrong with their guesses. Makes me suspicious as hell as to their real motives
You are full of shit
if they ask you whether or not you'll ever give a direct answer to which you state an empathic: NO.
Hopefully their brains will explode like NOMAD in Star Trek's The Changeling.
Far too many people are unnecessarily submissive to questioning by anyone wearing so much as a Chuck E. Cheese name tag. My favorite responses to a question by a copper are "Who are you; my mother?" or silence.
Hopefully their brains will explode like NOMAD in Star Trek's The Changeling.
.. if not, it's worth the time
All you need to do is listen to the first few words.. but this is just as insightful
There's really no need to get all paranoid. While it's true that certain hotels have been known to cooperate with LE, that's typically in the form of allowing stings to be conducted on their property. It's extremely unlikely that every hotel in the nation is dedicating any substantial amount of time to narcing on hookers. If they did, you'd have hardly any ladies hosting in hotels and there would be WAY more firsthand accounts of this stuff happening to people. It's great to be cautious and all, but there's no need to get neurotic.
Didn't want to bury this response at the end of the long thread below.
The one thing I can't afford in this game is to be arrested. So ... I take what some have told me are rather extreme measures to make my playing as LEO proof as possible.
One of my rules has always been to never do an incall with an escort who is new to me.
Now I'm seriously questioning whether it is ever safe to do an incall even with a regular.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/narked
... and the chances are if she happens to pay the favor forward, her clientele won't know anything about it. Which isn't good for them because the client won't know what else the lady may be involved in.
You still have a low calibre brain, no sense of humour, and your posts are an offence to the intellect. But I'll admit you make for good theatre.
A hotel can only get in legal trouble for renting to a hooker if they know she is a hooker and culpable of aiding and abetting her. No cogent hotel is going to turn down profitable business on a hunch that could cost them BIG MONEY if they are civilly prosecuted for their "hunch".
I know a provider who's landlord for years knew what she was and did. It was only AFTER the landlord receiving a complaint by another tenant about foot traffic to her apartment that she was politely asked to find residence elsewhere.
It's all about money/profit and Plausible deniability!
a few things
sure - hotels like paying guests and left to their own devices most may not care as long as you don't bring them bad publicity -
however no hotel chain cares about your lawsuit - you could not possibly win it as the one with the most money always wins - and it would be *good publicity* for them either way (if it ever saw the light of day)
what they do care about is LE - they depend on LE for some of their own needs and for discretion that helps keep them out of the newspapers
so when LE in a given area is actively trying to crack down on providers using hotels, they actively cooperate -
the driving force is LE activity in a given area *plus* the level of cooperation of some hotel chains versus others -
it pays both clients and providers to understand what is going on in their market area, to avoid hot spots and unfriendly hotels and chains, and to be discrete....
but I agree with you that there is no reason to be paranoid -
*however*
there is damned good reason to stay informed...
Of course - if stopped leaving the room - say nothing except "I'm going to call my attorney", Don't play games or piss off the cops - simply shut up and wait for the lawyer to arrive (and if you don't have an attorney - call the public defender's office - say what you want - they're not Johnny Cochran - but you're not OJ - and those guys really know their shit when it comes to criminal procedure).
Second, the nature of the assault on this industry seems to be changing. When cops and prosecutors have in the past been somewhat disengaged - more interested in scoring political points - the easy thing to do to satisfy the sanctimonious masses has been to arrest and convict streetwalkers. Its easy pickings and they don't risk losing the more questionable or defensible cases against high end escorts and/or their customers. But now, we're starting to read of busts and stings of internet based providers - and - under the guise of cracking down on the demand that "fuels" human trafficking - we're starting to hear of internet stings leading to arrests of the Johns. The cops are clearly getting more sophisticated, (at least some) prosecutors are starting to get more zealous, and the environment is changing. And the hotels do not violate anyone's rights (at least in most jurisdictions) by reporting suspicious activity to the police.
Its not getting stopped leaving the room that worries me. Its cops breaking into the room - mid act - bc my friend has been profiled.
And yeah - paranoia isn't cool - some risks can't be avoided - and risk/benefit calculations will still allow me to enjoy this great game.
But unfortunately Tobi, there are reasons for some of us to be neurotic. I'm not worried about blackmail bc I'm not married or in a relationship. I'm not worried about scams, rip-offs, etc bc I can afford it. Not terribly worried about STDs because protection minimizes the risk. But a solicitation arrest, even if eventually dismissed, could wreak such havoc on my professional career - out of all proportion to the "crime" - that I have to be obsessively careful.
2legit2quit's post alerted me to dangers that I hadn't considered before - and I'm thinking about how to adjust. Not about to stop playing - but, as with everything, there are more risky and more safe choices that can be made.
In the same way that they can't barge into your apartment (it's the landlord's property, sure, but you are a legal tenant...same as the tenancy you have as a hotel guest). You don't have to let them in and you don't have to consent to any sort of search or questioning.
Second, the nature of the assault on this industry seems to be changing. When cops and prosecutors have in the past been somewhat disengaged - more interested in scoring political points - the easy thing to do to satisfy the sanctimonious masses has been to arrest and convict streetwalkers. Its easy pickings and they don't risk losing the more questionable or defensible cases against high end escorts and/or their customers. But now, we're starting to read of busts and stings of internet based providers - and - under the guise of cracking down on the demand that "fuels" human trafficking - we're starting to hear of internet stings leading to arrests of the Johns. The cops are clearly getting more sophisticated, (at least some) prosecutors are starting to get more zealous, and the environment is changing. And the hotels do not violate anyone's rights (at least in most jurisdictions) by reporting suspicious activity to the police.
Its not getting stopped leaving the room that worries me. Its cops breaking into the room - mid act - bc my friend has been profiled.
And yeah - paranoia isn't cool - some risks can't be avoided - and risk/benefit calculations will still allow me to enjoy this great game.
But unfortunately Tobi, there are reasons for some of us to be neurotic. I'm not worried about blackmail bc I'm not married or in a relationship. I'm not worried about scams, rip-offs, etc bc I can afford it. Not terribly worried about STDs because protection minimizes the risk. But a solicitation arrest, even if eventually dismissed, could wreak such havoc on my professional career - out of all proportion to the "crime" - that I have to be obsessively careful.
2legit2quit's post alerted me to dangers that I hadn't considered before - and I'm thinking about how to adjust. Not about to stop playing - but, as with everything, there are more risky and more safe choices that can be made.
but even if the police did burst into the room "mid act" having sex is not against the law, nor is having sex with a "known prostitute" against the law. What is against the law is "purchasing sex", or even attempting to purchase or sell sex. Neither of these things can be proven by simply bursting into a room and "catching" two people having sex. Unless one or both parties are stupid enough to "confess" to having committed a crime, the police still have zip, zero, nothing at all with which to make an arrest.
admitted to the hospital refuse a blood test?
Could the results of that toxicology report be used as evidence against a hotel guest in Columbus, when charged with possession of crack cocaine and a possession charge of PCP
I swear if the day ever comes that you say anything even resembling a coherent, relevant thought...I'll have an aneurysm.
Not that I was ever worried in the first place, but now I am even less worried than I wasn't worried in the first place. lmao
I am sure Conan is going to have a GREAT time with my last sentence. lol
It even made sense to him. It probably helped that he was drunk.
Federal courts have ruled that hotel and motel rooms are accorded the same protection as a residence. Police must obtain a search warrant to enter the room. Hotel management cannot simply enter a room that is rented. In states that have so-called "Castle Doctrines" regarding self defense, those same protections apply when someone is renting a hotel or motel room.
This protection ends when the checkout time has expired. The protection does not exist if the room was booked fraudulently, as with a stolen credit card, for example.
what happens is that the landlord / property owner's agent (one of the hotel staff) opens the door for LE -
the hotel room is *not your property* and you have no right of privacy there
this has been established and upheld in quite a few court decisions....
in the law to the requirement that police have a warrant to search a hotel room -
the most important one - the belief that a crime is actually in process or exigency
this applies in your home as well -
and second - nobody is talking about "searches" -
if the ladies picture matches and escort ad that is prima facie evidence of intent to commit a crime regardless of any fluffy language about "time and companionship" and this has been established in many jurisdictions -
so if she books the hotel an exigency under the law has already been created.
in real life what usually happens is that the police wait for guys to come out of the room and try to flip them against the provider - usually with ease.
"partial knowledge" is a dangerous thing - the devil is always in the detail
So, this applies to all 50 states. The hotel owners have somewhat more rights than the police. They can enter to clean the room or to prevent damage to their property. If a hotel employee should discover something ilegal in the room, the cops would still need a warrant to search the room.
The rules are different when the police have reasonable cause to believe that a crime is in progress. Searches in connection with an arrest are not generally prohibited. And states vary significantly re the types of crimes and the circumstances justifying warrantless searches. Ohio is complicated - but largely LE favorable.
And all of this relates to warrantless searches. If the cops are setting up a sophisticated sting (perhaps driven by a human trafficking task force) its not too hard to have a judge on standby - ready to issue warrants.
But it wasn't my purpose to trigger or contribute to a legal debate. No one should rely on an internet discussion board for legal advice (even a board as intellectual as this one). I just thought 2legit's post was important, authoritative, and merited attention. Figured we all ought to at least consider it.
Cops breaking down a hotel door is not very likely. I didn't intend to overstate risks. But 3 popular hobby hotels have been shut down in Columbus in the last 6 months - escorts and customers arrested - and one hotel was ordered to be razed (the owner doesn't even get to sell it). And just read some of the discussions on the Phoenix Board about the shit that's going on out there (and those people are now spreading out and giving seminars around the country - as models for "how to combat trafficking").
FWIW I have concluded that this is probably not going to affect my hobby habits much - if at all. I never do incalls with new escorts anyway. When I repeat, its usually with someone who has "passed" - and I trust them enough to bring them to my place. If, for whatever reason, I decide to do a hotel date in the future, I'll probably just get the damn room myself. Maybe not everyone's solution - but - at least for now - it makes me feel more comfortable.
And thanks again 2legit for sharing your valuable info.
Yea...LE cannot just "break into the room"....first, someone would have had to of reported "suspicious" activity to the hotel, who would then call the police, who would only show up and knock on the door. They cannot "break" into the room, kick the door open, or enter with a key card, without a warrant first. When you rent a hotel room, you have the same rights you do in your own home..you do not have to let them in, unless they have a warrant. If they knock and ask to come in, you just tell them no.
Its not getting stopped leaving the room that worries me. Its cops breaking into the room - mid act - bc my friend has been profiled.
Public Defenders don't make house calls. You don't get a public defender simply by asking the cops to get you one. There's a lot more to it than that. You better re-recap.
There are about 300 hotels in Manhattan offering 90,000 rooms, employing 40,000 people to help accommodate the 49 million visitors to NYC each year. So unless the design team at Hyatt or Hilton make a portrait of my ass part of the lobby motif, I am not unduly alarmed.
and the thought that hotel employees are wasting corporate time trying to identify and inform on suspected prostitutes is laughable, as is this entire thread.
I am worried about many things in this little hobby of ours, having the cops burst in on me while "in the act" is not one of them.
Haven't seen that paranoia for a while.
Some TSA agent may want to know what those crisp $ 100 bills are going to be used for 
I am worried about many things in this little hobby of ours, having the cops burst in on me while "in the act" is not one of them.
Just get your verification out of the way and no more wait.
I wonder what the TSA cross references when verifying your identity?
.. apparently per this thread, the last time you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express
The worst part about this thread is all the SPOTY points that my little mushroom cap has lost today. When you are the SPOTY leader it takes at least ten stupid posts to make up for just one that makes any sense.
Yes, I guess the next thread of mass hysteria will be some other moron asking what to do when carrying LARGE sums of cash, like five hundred bucks or so. lol
I don't do a lot of flying for reasons of phobia, but the last time I flew out to my hometown (not to hook, just to visit my mom/sister/dog), I had some Homeland Security dude stop me on the jetway and ask to search my backpack. I didn't want to miss my flight, so I agreed.
Dude ended up counting all of my money out in the open, dumping all of my makeup out on the floor (paying extra attention to my eyelash curler), and just royally irritating me in general before letting me get on the plane.
It wasn't until I got to my destination that I realized he had completely failed to notice the almost fully packed bowl in my makeup bag that I had thrown in there by accident. Oops.
I was leaving Costa Rica and they confiscated my "waiter's corkscrew" you know the folding corkscrew with the little folding knife blade on it. What amazed me was not the fact that they confiscated it and would not allow me to pass security with it, but the fact that I had gotten through at least four other airports without them catching it. So much for trading our convenience for our safety, it appears we no longer have either. With this level of incompetence it's amazing that planes aren't dropping out of the sky on a daily basis.
All I need to do is unscrew a few airline bottles of vodka.
He cannot count your money or empty the contents publicly. You should just pulled out your phone and start recording.
Do you know what you are talking most of the time, all you say is LE cannot do this . The matter of fact is you are ignorant and you IQ is less than a first grader .
Airport security can check any ones bags if they are suspicious, I guess u have never traveled!!!
They do have more leeway there because once you pass the security check point you effectively consented to being searched. Oops. I don't travel much and venue issues slipped my mind. You are correct.
LE can ask to search anything, but unless they have probable cause or a warrant they can't search with out consent. Once consent is given they can search with impunity. And they are not required to be gentle. One last thing if something was lost or damaged during said search because it was consented to, they are not liable. Always refuse searches, even if they have a warrant. It establishes it was not voluntarily and increases your recourses. She was foolish, but once she waived her 4th amendment rights, the officer broke no law in the search. You can voluntarily wave your rights and it almost always if not always stupid to do so.
love you, but what you did was real stupid. Your property could have been damaged. There could have been drug paraphernalia near by that could be mistaken as yours, or anything like that. Never resist, but never consent. Next time say, "I don't consent to searches, am I free to go?" It will likely get you to your flight faster and it will reduce your risk. The officer needs reasonable suspicion to detain you, and probable cause or a warrant to search you. If they have that nothing you say to that unless you say or do something stupid will affect the officer searching your bag or detaining you
As if the TSA check wasn't long enough at the Denver airport before they legalized weed (consistently the longest anywhere I've ever traveled) now I hear it is even longer as they are really serious about people taking it out of the state. I think though that a lot of other airports don't really care too much about it and are pretty lax on enforcement - a bunch of mellow bad guys simply asking for seconds on peanuts just kinda makes the world seem a lot safer.
Of course, your guy sounded totally oblivious, and even more annoying. All's well that ends well!
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Funniest part was that I was flying TO Denver.
Of course, your guy sounded totally oblivious, and even more annoying. All's well that ends well!
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Ha, that is funny! I guess they figure it is like bringing snow to Alaska
Maybe he was looking for bit coins LOL
Dear Ms. Telford:
I guess he really does know now that you really are a bad college girl.
Dude ended up counting all of my money out in the open, dumping all of my makeup out on the floor (paying extra attention to my eyelash curler), and just royally irritating me in general before letting me get on the plane.
It wasn't until I got to my destination that I realized he had completely failed to notice the almost fully packed bowl in my makeup bag that I had thrown in there by accident. Oops.
right after you close the door behind you.
In fact, I've never seen one quite like it, so if a portrait was available in the lobby it would be a dead give-away and you'd be in trouble, my little Vindaloo.
That said, you're quite right about Manhattan. But the number of hotel rooms in other places is more manageable for LE.