Im inclined to believe its true. I dont understand why tho. We are just as careful and safe as ggs are. I take my health and safety very seriously and assume ggs do as well. I think its very derogatory and discriminatory of them to do such practices. I have had guys saying to me they would love to review me but their gg providers would not like it.
I think the "gay sex" argument is BS. On that same note then any girl who lets the guy have butt sex with them would be engaging in gay sex as well. I could make that argument. So unfair. And as most ggs would at this point know, every session does not imply full intercourse. Some guys are into other things too, not just full intercourse. I think you guys are right... im not gonna get an honest answer from a gg provider. Sad. You would think these venues are where we can express our concerns and talk openly about stuff. And I welcome any questions that would debunk that myth that we are at a higher risk of anything more than a gg provider.I have heard this rumor a lot of times and I just need to ask... would you refuse to see a client if you know for a fact that he/she has been with a ts escort?
Some guys will even refuse to write a review of a tgirl for fear of their ATF finds out about it. If so... what would be the argument?
urban legend or truth?
Some guys will not see a woman who sees a guy who see TS providers. (A lot of "seeing" isn't it?)
Is it fair? Of course not. Is is true? Yes, undeniably.
It comes down to the usual, your fetish is "sick" while mine is "normal". I suppose it is actually rooted in the belief that TS providers are more at risk partly because they engage in for lack of a better term "gay sex" and many guys feel that guys that frequent TS providers are indeed gay and as such more at risk for HIV/AIDS.
I am not going to comment on the validity of these fears, except to point out that many women take just as many dicks up their pooper as any TS provider, but I am simply pointing of the rationale that is used.
Going to give an honest answer, unless under an alias. I've heard from more than one provider that this is true but it's not a lot, only a few.
I don't see why it matters though
unless they were barebacking in which case the reason would be obvious
Im inclined to believe its true. I dont understand why tho. We are just as careful and safe as ggs are. I take my health and safety very seriously and assume ggs do as well. I think its very derogatory and discriminatory of them to do such practices. I have had guys saying to me they would love to review me but their gg providers would not like it.
I think the "gay sex" argument is BS. On that same note then any girl who lets the guy have butt sex with them would be engaging in gay sex as well. I could make that argument.
So unfair. And as most ggs would at this point know, every session does not imply full intercourse. Some guys are into other things too, not just full intercourse.
I think you guys are right... im not gonna get an honest answer from a gg provider. Sad. You would think these venues are where we can express our concerns and talk openly about stuff. And I welcome any questions that would debunk that myth that we are at a higher risk of anything more than a gg provider.
And not just about Ts's. It's amazing that people who engage in P4P have so many prejudices, but that's just the way it is and it's not likely to change any time soon.
In a way, just by you being here and presenting your point of view helps people understand where you're coming from.
The guys who see you, they can always write an alias review lol
But I guess it doesn't address your frustrations
that would be like putting a band-aid on a slit jugular.
I was going to argue the same thing. Those guys maybe shouldn't book with cis providers that offer Greek either. Buttsex is buttsex no matter who's butt it is. lol
Also, you can catch hell on the boards if you've got TS's in your review history. If they don't like you, some posters will check and start heckling you for being gay.
I will admit up front that years ago I was a heckler myself. I'm not proud of it, though, and don't plan to do it again. My guess is there are a lot more guys who see TS's but don't review.
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Women can be homophobes too! There could also be some professional jealousy, i.e. the TS can do/offer some things that she can't.
I don't care who my clients see. Back Thailand TS is not a taboo and in India they respect TS and seek their blessing when a child is born.
Nor would I care if a guy saw a TS before me. As long as I take care of my safety as best I can it is no different than a hetero guy fucking his wife BB up her ass for the last 15 years.
Because they don't want the GGs and the other guys they know with their GG handle either because of backlash.
Steph
more participation from other providers but seems like guys here are more open minded and understanding than I thought.
I think its clear whats their stance on the matter 
Thanks for the input boys.
has been a persistent perspective here; voiced by men and providers many times.
As others on this thread have already expressed, the perception that TS providers more likely to spread STI's has been heavily promoted on this board. For whatever reason, some of the more overtly hateful TS bashing on this board seems to have been taken down a few notches. IMO, great, and about damned time.
But I also think that, to assume that the guys are 'more' open-minded and understanding' on this topic is...well....unrealistic. The guys on this thread who are falling somewhere between neutral and supportive have, in the past, been....well...less than neutral and supportive. The remainder of the ignut asstards that usually show-up on this kind of thread must be sleeping.
I love that *you* brought this up, and have expressed that you're willing to answer questions or counter perceptions.
And, GODDAMMIT, GAG, Inicky, DA, if you guys keep showing up as a voice of tolerance on these controversial subjects I'm going to have to rethink my whole perspective on alien abduction. I'm pretty dug-in on the idea that this is not possible. But, then I read this thread and I can't figure out what happened to you guys. And, I find having to change my beliefs very tiresome and annoying. :
Have been forced to attend The Scoed School of Proper Mangina-ism.
It has had a transformative effect.
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It's a touchy subject even if it shouldn't be.
Steph
I agree. Some people avoid it. but if not here then where? church? LOL
I know of guys that use their main handle to review the "normal" escorts and their alias to review their "fetish/kinky" encounters. I would suggest this route as it give you (or the client of the TS) less scrutiny and protects the "normal" escorts from being ostracized.
Just my two cents.
Jessica Knightly
The op is a provider. And my bet? A provider who takes as much interest in her business, is as attentive to safety, and cares as much about her clients as any other provider.
There is no need for "normal" in quotes.
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I put normal in quotes because I am not saying there is a norm. I just couldn't think of how to classify the female provider that is not on the fringe of what most expect. The TS, fetish, S&M providers are no less normal, that is why I put the quotes, but they are on the fringe, or the minority here.
More of a Specialty than the norm.
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was this another one of those "not knowing how to put it" kind of deals?
Does the term speciality offend you? You offer a special service I can not. It's a beautiful thing sorry to offend you.
And don't knock the fetish people, different strokes for different folk
I wrongly assumed in my earlier response the original post was from a client who visited TS not the beautiful TS Aleksandra. Next time I'll pay better attention to whom I am responding.
It is unfortunate but there are truths in the rumors you have heard. Providers are often ostracized for many reasons and who their previous clients see fall into that.
This reminds me of the porn industry before the age of the internet. White female pornstars wouldn't have on screen sex with black men or their pay would drop dramatically. Even if the porn star slept with only black men in her personal life, she couldn't on film.
By ostracizing hobbyists that see TS once in a while, all you girls are doing is promoting secretiveness and discrimination against girls like me. The worst part is that guys will continue to see girls like me and by not knowing that your clients are seeing tgirls... does it in fact make you any safer while on the job? I highly doubt so. And most of us take our health (and the hobbyists too believe or not) very seriously. We are not any different than gg providers. GG I like to say that... GG
Fin.
MANY men in P4P won't see a lady who has see another man who reviewed a TS provider. It's BOTH sides!!!
And I'm glad you decided it stick around here...
Steph
I had a different picture of what I imagined the P4P community to be.
My mundane life pretty much consists of people who subscribed to the free love, non-judgemental, open relationship, polyamory approach to sex. I sort of assumed this was the usual kind of people who included this hobby in their lifestyle. I've only been to one M&G, and was a little surprised by the people who were there (in a good way), but from reading reviews and board participation my opinion of who engages in P4P has changed greatly.
A lot of the men who become clients are extremely conservative in nature, IMO, and I'm not surprised that their is a lot of reaction to TS members of the community. That said, when a client checks out the ads he looks for aspects he likes in deciding who he's going to research and then book with. Taking a walk on the wild side isn't the usual motivation.
Men talk about liking/needing/wanting "variety" as a reason (excuse?) for hobbying, but in reality we all tend to place arbitrary limits on the types of providers we see. This extends to TS women (pre or post), AND they are judgmental about what others do. Probably the same is true of providers.
BUT your "business" would probably suffer greatly if neocons and such relaxed more. As long as they're puritanical by nature, they'll maintain a stern front life and sneak away for fulfillment. You don't want a world where people just enjoyed each other's bodies as part of life, because demand for paying for the experience would fade away.
Best of luck.
It has always been a fantasy of mine to be with a TS and a few weeks ago I reached out on the TS board for a TS that enjoys females as much as men and I was lucky enough to connect with the beautiful TS Aleksandra. After chatting we were able to set up a date with a favorite reg of mine who had seen my post on the TS board and was interested in seeing us together. I cannot speak about any other TS other then Aleksandra but I can say that she is clean safe and amazingly sexy and talented, also one of the sweetest people I've had the opportunity to meet in this community.
This entire community is made up of individuals who by societies standards are already shunned, judged and condemned for being low life's, drug addicts and just all around terrible people. Do those people exist here? Yes. But I think that within this community they are the minority. Who are any of us to judge anyone on TER or anywhere in the hobby? Because for most of us (not including myself) if anyone in our private lives knew we would be judged just as harshly.
I think it really just comes down to doing your homework, reading reviews, talking to others in the community and voicing concerns and just all around being safe gentleman and provider alike regardless of what kind of fetish they may be into or gay sex or TS's.
So here's my honesty, I am a provider - a well reviewed one I might add
I just want to have fun and feel pleasure safely I don't care if you're a man, women, or fall somewhere in between, Black, White, Asian, etc, young, old, couples, if you are a clean respectable person who wants to please me just as much as I want to please you... I don't see why not. That's what covers and FC's are here for.
So either shun me because I have enjoyed TS Aleksandra or open your mind and embrace a different way of looking at life.
PS... Aleksandra, I can't wait for you to visit DC!
Aw I think you nailed it . And by the way i never intended to generalize to all female providers.
I will be down there soon enough . kisses.
This entire community is made up of individuals who by societies standards are already shunned, judged and condemned for being low life's, drug addicts and just all around terrible people. Do those people exist here? Yes. But I think that within this community they are the minority. Who are any of us to judge anyone on TER or anywhere in the hobby? Because for most of us (not including myself) if anyone in our private lives knew we would be judged just as harshly.
I think it really just comes down to doing your homework, reading reviews, talking to others in the community and voicing concerns and just all around being safe gentleman and provider alike regardless of what kind of fetish they may be into or gay sex or TS's.
So here's my honesty, I am a provider - a well reviewed one I might add
I just want to have fun and feel pleasure safely I don't care if you're a man, women, or fall somewhere in between, Black, White, Asian, etc, young, old, couples, if you are a clean respectable person who wants to please me just as much as I want to please you... I don't see why not. That's what covers and FC's are here for.
So either shun me because I have enjoyed TS Aleksandra or open your mind and embrace a different way of looking at life.
PS... Aleksandra, I can't wait for you to visit DC!!
Awww thanks. And also u made a fair point. Discrimination on both.
there's more discussion here than in other boards so yeah I decided to stick around
And I asked her if she cared if her clients seen one and she laughed and said she would discount her rate if she was one. As for me the way I see it wouldn't be any more risky or taboo than seeing anyone else that enjoys anal sex. I don't get why anyone would care if someone else seen a TS or not.
Me? I love my TS sistahs and the clients we share!
Some guys will even refuse to write a review of a tgirl for fear of their ATF finds out about it. If so... what would be the argument?
urban legend or truth?