my personal opinion - no offense intended to anyone - is that they take the "gfe" thing a bit to seriously, and in many if not most instances, are setting themselves up for disappointment....
it's just human nature - the monger may be enthralled by the pussy and forget that he's paying but *she* is definitely not - and there is a limited amount of time and energy to go around - so I would expect that as in all customer service industries (not that it *should* be....), the "regular" becomes taken for granted and the focus is on developing new clients. Even with personal dates, keeping it fresh in my experience means keeping it at a distance and not too frequent.... that's one of the reasons I like seeing k-girls so much - not a huge amount of chit-chat, no real effort at time wasting of "gfe" - solid service. not to mention that they are young slender and pretty as a rule :p Occasionally I enjoy one so much that I try to repeat before she leaves but that's about it - and it's based on *service* not the notion that I am building a "relationship"......anyone had multiple visits with provider in a short time ? my ATF retired recently. had 4 meetings with her in the last 10 days before her quitting the biz. guess I was addicted to her pussy !!!
...saw her 4 times in 9 days. Wallet is only now recovering. Worth every penny.
I like a lot of variety, so even with gals I see multiple times it's usually months between visits.
every other month or less.
That way I see a large array of gals and never get bored with them. Each time we meet it's like meeting for the first time again.
most recently was a Thai provider that I met a few weeks ago that I knew was only going to be here a couple of weeks before going home to Thailand. I think I saw her every other day for about two days. After our first session, I always made sure to be her last appointment of the day and we would have a one hour paid session, followed by dinner, drinks or whatever until one of both of us were tired.
I often become enamored with a new lady and see her multiple times over a short period of time. I am a whore mongering pig with a short attention span so it rarely lasts too long, but it's fun while it lasts. It's kind of like being in love, only a LOT cheaper both financially and emotionally.
Did you mean every other day for 2 weeks?
Every other day for 2 days is one visit total! 
Then I decided he meant he saw her every other day for two straight days. But, no, that doesn't work either. Keep in mind GaG is usually drunk. Still, he generally makes more sense than this.
but as most of you are aware, I make MORE sense drunk than sober, as drunk is my natural state, but rarely in the morning, except when on vacation which of course happens to be about half the time for me. lol
I actually have an even better excuse, I was distracted setting up a session for early this afternoon. I just got back from said appointment, and NOW it's time to get drunk. I promise I will make more sense as the day goes on and I reduce the percentage of blood in my alcohol system.
BTW I really can't figure out why so many guy have problems setting up short notice/same day appointments. I had no idea who I was going to fuck today when I got up this morning, but thanks to P411 I was able to find a lovely young lady, make contact with her, get through the entire screening/time setting process with her, actually have a great session and be back here in plenty of time to run my mouth on TER for the rest of the afternoon.
Why do all these other guys claim to have so many problems getting laid with all the tools at our disposal?
But from now on you are forbidden to "posting while sober." It's too bad some of the clowns here can't be forbidden from "posting while stupid."
And as for your same-day booking point, yes, it's really not that hard especially when using P411 which removes most concerns.
You need at least three days in a row to use the term "every other day." lol.
Usually when a touring provider I like a lot is in town for an extended visit, or, like you, when someone is going away.
Otherwise, what works for me lately is to see my favorite 2-3 times a month. With increased time together comes growing intimacy and an overall better time, IMO, though I generally keep it to no more than once a week. More often than that is not as good for me.
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and I have seen one 3 times in a week.
When I get with someone I really like I will do that for months on end. Most recently I would see my favorite woman twice a month. I upped it to three which became four. We went on a date and shortly thereafter it became Four times a week. Addicted...that's a mild understatement!!!
I have enjoyed one so much that I tried to schedule a second visit - and very rarely a third - this will of course be within a two week or so visit so I guess that is "short time".....
I'm not looking for an "ATF" - don't really believe in it -
I do have my "current favorites" but "All Time" just doesn't have any relevance for me and whore mongering. I don't even have "all time favorite" GF's, much less "paid dates"
I always laugh when I read "one of my ATFs." How many "all times" can there be? Then I guess those are the same people who have given out many "once in a lifetime" scores. How many lifetimes do they have? I think the term ATF is kind of silly, which is why almost everytime the topic comes up I start talking about Automatic Transmission Fluid, or Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms.
I've started using CF instead of ATF for the very reason you and GaG pointed. Actually, in speaking, I don't use acronyms much, except for ASAP, names of corporations or organizations, and stuff like that.
my personal opinion - no offense intended to anyone - is that they take the "gfe" thing a bit to seriously, and in many if not most instances, are setting themselves up for disappointment....
it's just human nature - the monger may be enthralled by the pussy and forget that he's paying but *she* is definitely not -
and there is a limited amount of time and energy to go around -
so I would expect that as in all customer service industries (not that it *should* be....), the "regular" becomes taken for granted and the focus is on developing new clients.
Even with personal dates, keeping it fresh in my experience means keeping it at a distance and not too frequent....
that's one of the reasons I like seeing k-girls so much - not a huge amount of chit-chat, no real effort at time wasting of "gfe" - solid service. not to mention that they are young slender and pretty as a rule :p
Occasionally I enjoy one so much that I try to repeat before she leaves but that's about it - and it's based on *service* not the notion that I am building a "relationship"......
Hey Markus. I am going to respectfully disagree. I know you prefaced your statements by saying it's just your opinion but I think people take what they want from the hobby. I don't believe there is just one way to play. Some people thrive on no connection maximum pussy. Some people need the PSE they don't get in a relationship. I too have enjoyed the KMP visits because of the easy NSA just enjoy the pampering experience. I personally enjoyed pushing the envelope in some of these visits. For me that meant multiple visits but increased benefits or taking one past their comfort zone. Most KMP girls don't kiss at all. I enjoy an experience where I can take a girl like that and have her kissing me by the end of the session. I used to see a Chinese MP girl who used to get excited to see me. She would not only kiss me but she would take her own pleasure during the session. Very much out of character. I don't think the GFE thing I so overrated at all as long as you keep it in perspective. I used to see a South American girl many years ago who was absolutely gorgeous but very limited in her offerings. CBJ, no kissing, etc. by my third visit she came when I DATY and everything was different. Everything. I don't feel that any of these girls got complacent with me at all. I continued to see each until they retired or moved, etc.
Whatever you choose from the hobby is yours for the taking if you want it. Just keep it in perspective because it is P4P.
hey if that works for you I'm down with it -
My own tendency is to see providers who already offer the services I want - full on GFE is very much a part of the k-girl routine I am accustomed to -
my ego is not invested in trying to get more out of them than they offer - I just want high performance from thin attractive women for the investment...
so as you say, people "hobby" for different reasons - ultimately it's all good -
but *all* of the train wrecks and drama that I have seen in this sport have come from the mongers who forget that it is a business transaction and the providers who make their living blurring these lines....
Gloss over the thing of easy setup, of knowing the fastest route to the incall, not fretting about where to park, and all that.
There are providers who give really good, therapeutic and sensual massage as part of the session, and I have seen one provider several times for that reason alone. But she's also stunning and passionate and all that.
There is a provider I have always enjoyed being in the company of for multiple hours, have seen her several times and am looking forward to seeing her again soon, and so far, each time has been better than the last.
I like certain extreme role playing at times, and neither of the providers I referred to above seem really skilled or interested in that kind of adventure, but a third, who admittedly I've only visited twice, seems to enjoy getting into these storyline scenarios and has an uncanny sense as to how to take them to amazing sex. So this lady will probably wind up getting a lot of requests from me, because most providers just can't get into that stuff. I mean really. It's not that they aren't willing, they just aren't able to agree on a safe word and make that jump.
So when somebody says, "I really like so and so," they can mean a lot of things beyond remembering lovers from the past or imagining that one day they're going to elope to Vegas.
Unfortunately you missed the mark a bit. It's not about pushing boundaries or self-aggrandizement. It's about appreciating the full potential of a woman that you could have some chemistry with. It happens infrequently but when you really like the provider why not see her again? IMO It gets better with multiple visits but in my experience the few that I have seen with frequency did not become more complacent
that is the oldest game in town -
offering more services to lure guys in for repeat visits...... oh sweetie such and such will be on the menu *next time* - that's the typical AMP come-on....
if *everything I want* is not on the menu at the first visit I don't go there.... and with full on k-dolls the service is right for the price -best bang for the buck and nothing held back....
I don't need the illusion that I am "making a connection" - I'm probably never going to see her again anyway.....
First, in any "industry," only idiots spend more focus on new business.
But primarily- I think I've seen somewhere that you have a good relationship or two otherwise? So you actually do spend time on chit-chat, etc. And I guarantee you're paying for it. This is a perfectly good relationship substitute- either in between or as an adjunct to a pretty bad one.
Also, if someone hasn't been in a relationship in a while, they can get rusty and down on themselves. A few months of regularly "wasting time" on gfe can do a world of good. I lose men to nice new girlfriends on the regular, and it's a pretty sweet thing.
"fair" only means "you big meanie - I did not get what I want" :p
Yes I have a couple of provider friends - but I *guarantee* you that when on the clock that tushie is in motion - I don't use the term "friend" loosely or imaginatively - our personal visits or activities are entirely OTC....
I agree with you completely that it is idiotic to focus on new business and not take care of existing clientele in any industry especially a service industry - but that is what I see happening routinely in all service industries including the hobby - certainly not without exception - and perhaps you are one of the exceptions....
It is routine that some monger is noticing that quality of service is declining in direct proportion to frequency of visits - it has become axiomatic....
but again I will certainly allow that you may be an exception to the trend.....
beyond that as I stated above, *ALL* of the drama I have seen in this sport comes from the mongers who forget that it is a business arrangement, and the providers who thrive on blurring the lines.....
Stipulated that it means "you big meanie..." :P
I see your point about drama. Like a therapist, I can see how a purchased friend could abuse that. Would a therapist be there for free? Well, no, but plenty therapists really care. Providers too. But one is regulated, the other isn't. I get what you're saying.
Weird on the quality of service- I have almost a routine of increasingly risque surprises- competing with variety is hard even with good product! Lol.
I recently had a provider who invited me to come back and join her after hours, just to curl up and sleep with her. I'd have taken her up on it if I didn't already have a commitment to keep.
Visit me 5x in 8 days... & brought a new pair of 4inch heels everytime he visited. I love shoes & obviously he did too!!! But he just moved to houston, wished he'd stay in Chitown cuz he would of been a great new ATF!!!! 😫😫😫😫!!! But I'm going to visit him in Houston soon!! Woo whoo!!!
When Little Mary Jane was around, I do think I saw her 4 times in about 2 weeks once, but who could blame me.
sure it was, but well worth the $$ and time. this provider had an unbelievable pussy and tits. best blow job ever and she screwed like a wildcat. insatiable. 2 hour visit included BBBJCIMNS and a least two fucks in just about every position imaginable.
Hey WB , I'm not sure if this was intended for me but was it overdoing it. Maybe although I don't think so. We were into each other and she had asked to see me as well. It was no longer P4P at that point so perhaps it doesn't count.
I reckon that in the situation YOU reported, it really wasn't P4P. I can't say I've ever had exactly that situation, but a few close enough to relate. The difference between you and the OP is that the woman going into retirement was basically doing a swan song. Like making the rounds for one last time. I know if I was seeing someone for a good-bye fuck, I'd only want to say good-bye once and close the door. Oddly, the more I "felt" about her, the more "intensely" I would experience that good-bye. And for me it's all about the experience.
I'm not one of these guys who rant on about business practices like sex is primarily a crash course in marketing. Even when I go out for dinner I enjoy the meal, ambiance, and people I'm with, and I generally ignore the price. When I rent a car I enjoy driving. But coming in contact with people is a social thing whether you're doing business with them or not. Spending the whole session focused on getting a deal might be great fun for some, but it's not my thing. So no, I don't think you were overdoing it, and yes, I DO think the OP was, and no, I'm not being at all inconsistent.