And I will smile big and do my job.
My ATF client showed me a great technique to massage the vagina. He calls it de-bitching the women and it makes them stress free and content which results in her becoming less prone to nagging.
It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.
I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.
The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.
No thanks sweetie.
I think I'll stick with my remedy of de-bitching.
A sock and some good duct tape.
Jack - LMAO. And so it begins...
I think I'll stick with my remedy of de-bitching.
A sock and some good duct tape.
There is a universal law that says what you put out you get back tenfold. Most people have yet to come to terms with this wisdom. 
it's called DATY, but I do it to make the woman happy.
Like you said... once the woman is happy... boy, I get a real nice return on my efforts. Sometimes beyond the effort I put in.
The point is... it's a 2 way street regardless if it's paid or not.
Nope! No 3 K envelope on the nightstand .... I'll keep looking...
And I will smile big and do my job.
she said "your" woman. I am sure you are not a client's woman
I think she is talking in general about pussy massage. She said "De-bitching YOUR women." When did a provider become your women.
I've done this as part of some sensual massages I've given to special ladies. The slow tease and build to a finish can bring spectacular results. I usually have some grapeseed oil as a lubricant as that's what I use for massage. Of course you don't want to use too much oil internally on a lady if you are following up with some penetration involving latex condoms. Oil + latex = degradation of protection. Some water based lube works best for latex fun. BTW massage oil and fc's are fine as they aren't latex based (another yay! for fc's).
Before the onslaught of comments about why I would do this in a p4p context my answers are:
1) I love giving sensual massages - especially to special friends, and I like staying in practice
2) every time I've done it amazing sex follows soon after
3) I love getting sensual massages too and I find that showing someone how nice it feels can make it easier for them to reciprocate
As far as "de-bitching women" I appreciate the concept but my women aren't bitchy to begin with (that's why I see them LOL). But I fully understand what you are trying to say as I have said the same thing my whole life - "massage feels awesome!". Cheers.
And yes, "massage feels awesome." I enjoy giving sensual massages also, and it does tend to put both of us in the right frame of mind for what follows.
I love paying attention to the vagina. Being patience and giving that type of massage doesn't lend itself to a timed one hour tryst, so that is usually reserved for the FWB who is staying the night. Hard to be patient when you are on the clock.
I call it DATY with love. Yea, it may sound corny, but the way I've been doing this for years... the ladies reciprocate with great sensual sex!
Like I said in another post... it's a 2 way street, regardless of what that Dunphy guy says.
It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.
I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.
The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.
No issues with applying your promulgation IRL with a gal that isn't a hooker.
But here in the P4P world to suggest that it's important to get your paid hooker off (or please her as you prefer to call it) will somehow enhance a dudes hour (or 2) of BBBJCIMNQNS is just not true.
Sorry if your reality doesn't fit many others here. But fear not my friend...no shortage of guys believing your reality either. As well I'm sure you buy into the "pineapple makes your cum taste sweet". Of course it does...a few of the gals have even said so LOL (But the ones who don't give a shit about your ego tell a very different story).
How'd you do on Sarah's test?
Like I said in another post... it's a 2 way street, regardless of what that Dunphy guy says.
It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.
I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.
The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.
trying to make yourself look bad?
It wasn't "Sarah's test" as you stated, it was provided by queendom.com. besides that, what does taking that test suggested by Sarah have anything to do with the original post?
it looks like you are posting crap for the sake of posting crap. can you do better next time?
But here in the P4P world to suggest that it's important to get your paid hooker off (or please her as you prefer to call it) will somehow enhance a dudes hour (or 2) of BBBJCIMNQNS is just not true.
Sorry if your reality doesn't fit many others here. But fear not my friend...no shortage of guys believing your reality either. As well I'm sure you buy into the "pineapple makes your cum taste sweet". Of course it does...a few of the gals have even said so LOL (But the ones who don't give a shit about your ego tell a very different story).
How'd you do on Sarah's test?
Like I said in another post... it's a 2 way street, regardless of what that Dunphy guy says.
It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.
I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.
The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.
As I suspected.
Bet you also scored a 50 on Sarah's test.
Keep on working on those social skills. There may not be much time left for you.... But I'm rooting for you.
It wasn't "Sarah's test" as you stated, it was provided by queendom.com. besides that, what does taking that test suggested by Sarah have anything to do with the original post?
it looks like you are posting crap for the sake of posting crap. can you do better next time?
But here in the P4P world to suggest that it's important to get your paid hooker off (or please her as you prefer to call it) will somehow enhance a dudes hour (or 2) of BBBJCIMNQNS is just not true.
Sorry if your reality doesn't fit many others here. But fear not my friend...no shortage of guys believing your reality either. As well I'm sure you buy into the "pineapple makes your cum taste sweet". Of course it does...a few of the gals have even said so LOL (But the ones who don't give a shit about your ego tell a very different story).
How'd you do on Sarah's test?
Like I said in another post... it's a 2 way street, regardless of what that Dunphy guy says.
It is a long massage of the pussy lips, clit and the g- spot. There is also a lot of stimulation at the opening of the pussy. The massage is very gentle and the finger penetration very slow. Nothing fast and furious. There is no oral involved as the fingers are more precise than the tongue. There is no lube used and touching of the vagina happens only after it's moist. And it is made moist by massaging and feather touching the groin area and breasts.
I was in heaven during the massage smiling for a couple of days after that.
The guy needs to have lot of patience and not think about his pleasure. Best to do it after the guy has come once.
discuss the queendom.com test in the correct thread.
are you that dense?
if you had taken a moment of your time away from your playground, you would have noticed my response to the queendom.com test thread.
go ahead and read it. can you comprehend that marching order?
now back to the DATY thread...
Bet you also scored a 50 on Sarah's test.
Keep on working on those social skills. There may not be much time left for you.... But I'm rooting for you.
It wasn't "Sarah's test" as you stated, it was provided by queendom.com. besides that, what does taking that test suggested by Sarah have anything to do with the original post?
it looks like you are posting crap for the sake of posting crap. can you do better next time?
So...did you get that 50?
I'm impressed that you were able to make the multi-thread connection.
How about the pineapples? Or is that asking too much from you?
Marching order....from you? LOL
are you that dense?
if you had taken a moment of your time away from your playground, you would have noticed my response to the queendom.com test thread.
go ahead and read it. can you comprehend that marching order?
now back to the DATY thread...
Bet you also scored a 50 on Sarah's test.
Keep on working on those social skills. There may not be much time left for you.... But I'm rooting for you.
It wasn't "Sarah's test" as you stated, it was provided by queendom.com. besides that, what does taking that test suggested by Sarah have anything to do with the original post?
it looks like you are posting crap for the sake of posting crap. can you do better next time?
P4P distorts this dynamic - because on one side of the balance there is already an amount of cash, that should be reciprocated in terms of quality of service.....
I enjoy pleasuring a woman so I will make an effort but it will be more limited in time and scope in P4P than in personal sex....
ensure that they lady I am with is enjoying herself, as well as me. I am naturally a giver, and get very excited supplying pleasure to the peron I am with; however, I can not fathom paying for an hour and spending 30 to 45 minutes doing this.
It distorts things in my head too. I had a sugar daddy who was omg SO good in bed! Later we got together for one random night and I couldn't believe what a demanding prick he was. He was definitely the same.
Paying + reasonably attractive + appreciative = A+
Reasonably attractive + appreciative = Wait, why am I giving you something to appreciate? Lo
That in P4P the focus should be on the client's satisfaction, as that is the value proposition in the transaction. Certainly the provider's pleasure is a major factor, and investments there pay back well, but if you're talking about very lengthy (very patient) massages, then that time might be compensated for OTC.
If I know that I'm going to be getting a lot of OTC in a session with a provider, I'll go all out to treat her like a civvie GF in terms of extended foreplay, massages, lots of chat time, getting her a drink or a snack, etc. But in a one or two hour session, there's not time for those aspects and the main attraction which is what the envelope is about.
I call it de-assholing a trick and it involves a blow job. Works every time.
LMAO. This is quickly becoming a epic thread.
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I have a gentleman friend who specializes in giving me a 13 minute clitoral massage
It makes him almost as happy as it makes me!
XOXO
CK
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