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I offer other means of screening, but never rely on a reference from a provider I do not know personally.

Posted By: outro9212
Hello All  
   
 I am not a member (yet) of P411 or any other sites like that (i am a member here). I am noticing that a lot of girls i want to see (a couple who post on these boards too haha) make ref to P411 and references. I am assuming references also on P411?  Ive only done fbsm massages (maybe looking to go to the next level)   but i always use this site to vet providers. If she is not listed here i dont take the chance. By the same token i can understand being vetted myself. im very respectful and i have a good job so im not worried. Tis fair.  
   
 If being a member of 411 is not enough and say you need some ref's too..is it crossing the line to ask the lady who they recommend? Let me clarify..if i want to see a lady..who says maybe just having a 411 membership isnt enough and she needs a ref or two...is it over the line to ask said lady if there is anyone she recommends i go see first?  
   
 These ladies are worth the hoop jumping imho so i dont want to mess up an initial conversation. Your help is appreciated.  
   
 Sincerely  
 A (relative) hobby noobie.

Hello All

I am not a member (yet) of P411 or any other sites like that (i am a member here). I am noticing that a lot of girls i want to see (a couple who post on these boards too haha) make ref to P411 and references. I am assuming references also on P411?  Ive only done fbsm massages (maybe looking to go to the next level)   but i always use this site to vet providers. If she is not listed here i dont take the chance. By the same token i can understand being vetted myself. im very respectful and i have a good job so im not worried. Tis fair.  

If being a member of 411 is not enough and say you need some ref's too..is it crossing the line to ask the lady who they recommend? Let me clarify..if i want to see a lady..who says maybe just having a 411 membership isnt enough and she needs a ref or two...is it over the line to ask said lady if there is anyone she recommends i go see first?  

These ladies are worth the hoop jumping imho so i dont want to mess up an initial conversation. Your help is appreciated.  

Sincerely
A (relative) hobby noobie.

On P411 the ladies can give you okays so other ladies see that and feel comfortable seeing you, if you see a lady that does advertise there ask her to do that for you.

You said you've done FBSMs, so why not use some of those ladies as references? However, I'm wondering, if you have done those, why you did not submit reviews for any of those providers. I could not find any at TER. After all, it is a two-way street IMO. Nice reviews, if you were satisfied with their services, are assets to a lady's business. They also would make her more prone to serve as a reference for you. Additionally, reviews tell other ladies you may wish to see that you are in fact a serious player, rather than someone just wasting their time.

Its seems like no one and everyone is on that site.   When I am logged on there I dont see much activity  but when I am on other sites I hear everyone has one!

I wouldn't be offended if someone asked me to recommend another provider, but that's me. I can't speak for other ladies. Why not use the fbsm providers you have seen as references

I have joined 3 sites, and found p411 the fastest no nonsense way to screen someone.
Its so simple & polite discreet and most ladies do respond, the gents also have a profile with ok's. I personally like their system.  The ladies are also screened and must have ok's or invites and other items checked before they can become a member.  You should feel assured if your wanting to see someone fairly new and with little reviews you are getting the real person.  Not like your jumping into a fire pit calling on BP and are upset. For all the emails I receive just asking for my # without even telling me where they found me or any info about them the items most ladies are wanting to feel safe is a good example & reason not to publish #. It weeds out the potential "unknown" and "private" callers and all the other u know what's.   I prefer safety and quality over a volume of crazy not serious callers interrupting my private time.  Check email boom done on my time not a fake caller time.   P411 is good, and so is TER if you send your handle and a ref. and most do and it's appreciated ! xoxo

I offer other means of screening, but never rely on a reference from a provider I do not know personally.

Posted By: outro9212
Hello All  
   
 I am not a member (yet) of P411 or any other sites like that (i am a member here). I am noticing that a lot of girls i want to see (a couple who post on these boards too haha) make ref to P411 and references. I am assuming references also on P411?  Ive only done fbsm massages (maybe looking to go to the next level)   but i always use this site to vet providers. If she is not listed here i dont take the chance. By the same token i can understand being vetted myself. im very respectful and i have a good job so im not worried. Tis fair.  
   
 If being a member of 411 is not enough and say you need some ref's too..is it crossing the line to ask the lady who they recommend? Let me clarify..if i want to see a lady..who says maybe just having a 411 membership isnt enough and she needs a ref or two...is it over the line to ask said lady if there is anyone she recommends i go see first?  
   
 These ladies are worth the hoop jumping imho so i dont want to mess up an initial conversation. Your help is appreciated.  
   
 Sincerely  
 A (relative) hobby noobie.

Thank you for the responses!

I did do a review, i feel weird writing a review off of one encounter (though I wouldn't be opposed if it was good) so that's why i haven't done a bunch. I haven't asked any of them for ref because I didn't think of it at the time.  I am still sampling too :-). I'd love to find an "ATF".

Have fun hobbying as you are in a great city to do it. There are so many wonderful providers here, many at TER, so why lock into an ATF?

As a newb,  setting up dates can be a royal pain, with the screening and stuff, so finding a fav is understandable as it makes things way easier in setting up future sessions. However, I'd hold off until you sampled enough to really know what you're looking for. You haven't even gone thru the "kid in the candy store" stage yet.  Once you've sampled enough, than pick a few favs and  then rotate among them, as well as seeing a new provider once in a while.  

I travel a lot and hobby during business trips, many times at the end of a session I'll ask if the lady I'm with would recommend a friend of hers that I might like. The real pros, and I mean that as a compliment, never have a problem recommending a friend to me. It also makes screen a lot easier

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