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Posted By: IsorokuYamamoto
uh ok  
   
Posted By: angelexotic
I get a feel for what the vibe is. If i am ever feelin like sketched out or concerned with gettin pinched by a detective or undercover, Say i am in Vegas, I didnt screen I just do an appt, Like i did my last trip to Vegas and thats my business and i dont always screen, So fuckin what you can die the second you walk out the door and innocent people walkn home from day jobs get abducted at knife point too, Life is a gamble and i am willing to throw the dice anytime, I am more than likely sure I d fuck them up first,.  
              And i have fucked some one up that tried to fuck with me once and it was ablood bath and they got 17 staples in thier head and were very very sorry , I may lose too and not be so lucky one day, I will cross that bride when i reach it that is if i do. I could also be lucky and never have any future problems like that one instance where well . Mt retard strength prooved helpful, Being mentally ill and bipolar sucks but when your manic and some one HAPPENS to try to attack or rob you and your in that mind state.  
   You also just so happen to be stronger than twenty mr universe.    
   SOOO  
   If man or woman is thinking its asting, Or arent felling trusting, Or the person turned which happens, Some people leave jail and become informants and make drug purchases from other they knew in prison and turns out they are now confidential informants ie rats and the drug dealer gets popped, i know a guy that happened too, He sold to a guy he did time with, GUess what, That guy ,,,EVEN though they did time together now this guy had turned and was now a c.i,. workin for the popo.  
           Ok so now, no one si ever safe and even if she has reviews what if they turn? The customer for his own legal accord shouldnt be doing hand to hand transactions, SOOO the ladies like myself that say put it on bathroom counter,    
      I want to be abe to say, "money , what money?" god forbid i ever got convicted on solicitation ie sex for fee, which never has happened, AND wont because i am not careless like i notice many many potential clients whom i delet thier reservation forms asap after recieving,    
   Many guys still feel need to make me ask for the donation, Which i hate cuz now I cant get it thrown outta court cuz NOW I cant say "money what money?' Now i am found guilty of soliciting sex as i recieved money in my hand for sex.  
                      I had a conversation with a friend today about why the customers feel the need to give details of what they want,  
   I get forms with unessesary details like oh and i like to cross dress. Or do you do water sports?  
   I charge fuckn 80 for amassage is it that difficult to book a massage and dropn 80 to meet in person and ask? why the unessesary banter I see on guys attempting to havea dialogue about illicit activities and illegal things, Its just annoying.  
                 The johns are the ones that get arrested most and its just odd how few care about any protocol of where to place donation, I request they put in envelope in bathroom, NO ONE does it, I end up HAVING to ask for it. Then they place it in front of me,    
   If I could control each and evry detail in this crazy anarchistic field of work I certainly would but its not at all the case so I adjust and conform and deal with it! I see that they look like a hobbyist and I get a feel for em in person and just hope no ones gonna come get 3 appts and build a case then try me on not one but 3 counts of soliciting sex, Which they been known to do to drug dealers, They can actually come back and come back and keep piling up many counts of same charges, I never heard first hand of them doing it to an escort, But I am sure its been done,    
                                    I wish more would do what i ask and its a good habit for every one even the johns to get accustomed to not doing hand to hand transactions, When engaged in ANYTHING illegal not just this......But no one cares............................No one evr puts it in bathroom on sink they make me ask for it, EVERY single client, GOOD TOPIC maybe some people will read this and start putting it on sink and not making me have to ruin the whole fantasy and remind them they are paying me..  
   I hate asking for that reason too , Its like reminding the guy its not a fantasy and i want his money, Id rather not have to mention money and just go in bathroom before the session and count it in there then tuck it away,,,,    
  BUT for some reason every single guy comes in attacks me and hasnt even given donation yet!!!!!! I have to say whoa whoa! did you put donation some where?  
   "uh no not yet..." but whatever its a big anarchistic arena and no one can have full control on how its run despite our efforts too... If it were up to me i dmake placing donation in bathroom on sink in unsealed envelope a honor among thieves sort of un spoken law that every one just followed and didm, BUT no one does so i just go with it and ask in person count in front them, and go with it, what else can you do? go get them an envelope and insist they do it????

Now, assuming that nobody's personal fantasy invokes hide 'n' seek or 'button, button, who's got the button,' does anyone ever have problems with placing the envelope somewhere in plain sight but where the provider doesn't notice it?

There are usually only 3 or 4 options: the counter or sideboard in the bathroom, the nightstand, on the bed itself, or on a table or bureau in the room.

The routine of placing the envelope in the foyer or living room and then excusing yourself to the bathroom to freshen up works well...sometimes.

And the routine of excusing yourself to the bathroom, leaving the envelope in there, and returning works well....sometimes.

Do providers ever have trouble locating where the client placed it?

Would it be good to standardize the protocol of where the envelope is placed?

in the way of service :D

eh -

actually -

read her website.   Some specify in their etiquette section exactly how they want the envelope handled.....  some say to leave it in the bathroom when you freshen up - some say to leave it in the bedroom and then excuse yourself to freshen up (so they can verify the contents....)

and if they do not specify ,  I leave it on the first obvious surface I come to in the hotel room or if an incall in the bedroom / bathroom area.   Assuming of course that she give me a chance -  some start really fast (I like that by the way) and the envelope becomes an afterthought....

I get a feel for what the vibe is. If i am ever feelin like sketched out or concerned with gettin pinched by a detective or undercover, Say i am in Vegas, I didnt screen I just do an appt, Like i did my last trip to Vegas and thats my business and i dont always screen, So fuckin what you can die the second you walk out the door and innocent people walkn home from day jobs get abducted at knife point too, Life is a gamble and i am willing to throw the dice anytime, I am more than likely sure I d fuck them up first,.
            And i have fucked some one up that tried to fuck with me once and it was ablood bath and they got 17 staples in thier head and were very very sorry , I may lose too and not be so lucky one day, I will cross that bride when i reach it that is if i do. I could also be lucky and never have any future problems like that one instance where well . Mt retard strength prooved helpful, Being mentally ill and bipolar sucks but when your manic and some one HAPPENS to try to attack or rob you and your in that mind state.
 You also just so happen to be stronger than twenty mr universe.  
 SOOO
 If man or woman is thinking its asting, Or arent felling trusting, Or the person turned which happens, Some people leave jail and become informants and make drug purchases from other they knew in prison and turns out they are now confidential informants ie rats and the drug dealer gets popped, i know a guy that happened too, He sold to a guy he did time with, GUess what, That guy ,,,EVEN though they did time together now this guy had turned and was now a c.i,. workin for the popo.
         Ok so now, no one si ever safe and even if she has reviews what if they turn? The customer for his own legal accord shouldnt be doing hand to hand transactions, SOOO the ladies like myself that say put it on bathroom counter,  
    I want to be abe to say, "money , what money?" god forbid i ever got convicted on solicitation ie sex for fee, which never has happened, AND wont because i am not careless like i notice many many potential clients whom i delet thier reservation forms asap after recieving,  
 Many guys still feel need to make me ask for the donation, Which i hate cuz now I cant get it thrown outta court cuz NOW I cant say "money what money?' Now i am found guilty of soliciting sex as i recieved money in my hand for sex.
                    I had a conversation with a friend today about why the customers feel the need to give details of what they want,
 I get forms with unessesary details like oh and i like to cross dress. Or do you do water sports?
 I charge fuckn 80 for amassage is it that difficult to book a massage and dropn 80 to meet in person and ask? why the unessesary banter I see on guys attempting to havea dialogue about illicit activities and illegal things, Its just annoying.
               The johns are the ones that get arrested most and its just odd how few care about any protocol of where to place donation, I request they put in envelope in bathroom, NO ONE does it, I end up HAVING to ask for it. Then they place it in front of me,  
 If I could control each and evry detail in this crazy anarchistic field of work I certainly would but its not at all the case so I adjust and conform and deal with it! I see that they look like a hobbyist and I get a feel for em in person and just hope no ones gonna come get 3 appts and build a case then try me on not one but 3 counts of soliciting sex, Which they been known to do to drug dealers, They can actually come back and come back and keep piling up many counts of same charges, I never heard first hand of them doing it to an escort, But I am sure its been done,  
                                  I wish more would do what i ask and its a good habit for every one even the johns to get accustomed to not doing hand to hand transactions, When engaged in ANYTHING illegal not just this......But no one cares............................No one evr puts it in bathroom on sink they make me ask for it, EVERY single client, GOOD TOPIC maybe some people will read this and start putting it on sink and not making me have to ruin the whole fantasy and remind them they are paying me..
 I hate asking for that reason too , Its like reminding the guy its not a fantasy and i want his money, Id rather not have to mention money and just go in bathroom before the session and count it in there then tuck it away,,,,  
BUT for some reason every single guy comes in attacks me and hasnt even given donation yet!!!!!! I have to say whoa whoa! did you put donation some where?
 "uh no not yet..." but whatever its a big anarchistic arena and no one can have full control on how its run despite our efforts too... If it were up to me i dmake placing donation in bathroom on sink in unsealed envelope a honor among thieves sort of un spoken law that every one just followed and didm, BUT no one does so i just go with it and ask in person count in front them, and go with it, what else can you do? go get them an envelope and insist they do it????

IsorokuYamamoto786 reads

uh ok

Posted By: angelexotic
I get a feel for what the vibe is. If i am ever feelin like sketched out or concerned with gettin pinched by a detective or undercover, Say i am in Vegas, I didnt screen I just do an appt, Like i did my last trip to Vegas and thats my business and i dont always screen, So fuckin what you can die the second you walk out the door and innocent people walkn home from day jobs get abducted at knife point too, Life is a gamble and i am willing to throw the dice anytime, I am more than likely sure I d fuck them up first,.  
             And i have fucked some one up that tried to fuck with me once and it was ablood bath and they got 17 staples in thier head and were very very sorry , I may lose too and not be so lucky one day, I will cross that bride when i reach it that is if i do. I could also be lucky and never have any future problems like that one instance where well . Mt retard strength prooved helpful, Being mentally ill and bipolar sucks but when your manic and some one HAPPENS to try to attack or rob you and your in that mind state.  
  You also just so happen to be stronger than twenty mr universe.  
  SOOO  
  If man or woman is thinking its asting, Or arent felling trusting, Or the person turned which happens, Some people leave jail and become informants and make drug purchases from other they knew in prison and turns out they are now confidential informants ie rats and the drug dealer gets popped, i know a guy that happened too, He sold to a guy he did time with, GUess what, That guy ,,,EVEN though they did time together now this guy had turned and was now a c.i,. workin for the popo.  
          Ok so now, no one si ever safe and even if she has reviews what if they turn? The customer for his own legal accord shouldnt be doing hand to hand transactions, SOOO the ladies like myself that say put it on bathroom counter,  
     I want to be abe to say, "money , what money?" god forbid i ever got convicted on solicitation ie sex for fee, which never has happened, AND wont because i am not careless like i notice many many potential clients whom i delet thier reservation forms asap after recieving,  
  Many guys still feel need to make me ask for the donation, Which i hate cuz now I cant get it thrown outta court cuz NOW I cant say "money what money?' Now i am found guilty of soliciting sex as i recieved money in my hand for sex.  
                     I had a conversation with a friend today about why the customers feel the need to give details of what they want,  
  I get forms with unessesary details like oh and i like to cross dress. Or do you do water sports?  
  I charge fuckn 80 for amassage is it that difficult to book a massage and dropn 80 to meet in person and ask? why the unessesary banter I see on guys attempting to havea dialogue about illicit activities and illegal things, Its just annoying.  
                The johns are the ones that get arrested most and its just odd how few care about any protocol of where to place donation, I request they put in envelope in bathroom, NO ONE does it, I end up HAVING to ask for it. Then they place it in front of me,  
  If I could control each and evry detail in this crazy anarchistic field of work I certainly would but its not at all the case so I adjust and conform and deal with it! I see that they look like a hobbyist and I get a feel for em in person and just hope no ones gonna come get 3 appts and build a case then try me on not one but 3 counts of soliciting sex, Which they been known to do to drug dealers, They can actually come back and come back and keep piling up many counts of same charges, I never heard first hand of them doing it to an escort, But I am sure its been done,  
                                   I wish more would do what i ask and its a good habit for every one even the johns to get accustomed to not doing hand to hand transactions, When engaged in ANYTHING illegal not just this......But no one cares............................No one evr puts it in bathroom on sink they make me ask for it, EVERY single client, GOOD TOPIC maybe some people will read this and start putting it on sink and not making me have to ruin the whole fantasy and remind them they are paying me..  
  I hate asking for that reason too , Its like reminding the guy its not a fantasy and i want his money, Id rather not have to mention money and just go in bathroom before the session and count it in there then tuck it away,,,,  
 BUT for some reason every single guy comes in attacks me and hasnt even given donation yet!!!!!! I have to say whoa whoa! did you put donation some where?  
  "uh no not yet..." but whatever its a big anarchistic arena and no one can have full control on how its run despite our efforts too... If it were up to me i dmake placing donation in bathroom on sink in unsealed envelope a honor among thieves sort of un spoken law that every one just followed and didm, BUT no one does so i just go with it and ask in person count in front them, and go with it, what else can you do? go get them an envelope and insist they do it????

TalkToTrees703 reads

I only made as far as the 3rd sentence then realized that Angel is on another long winded diatribe.

The Forest Waits
 

Posted By: IsorokuYamamoto
uh ok  
   
Posted By: angelexotic
I get a feel for what the vibe is. If i am ever feelin like sketched out or concerned with gettin pinched by a detective or undercover, Say i am in Vegas, I didnt screen I just do an appt, Like i did my last trip to Vegas and thats my business and i dont always screen, So fuckin what you can die the second you walk out the door and innocent people walkn home from day jobs get abducted at knife point too, Life is a gamble and i am willing to throw the dice anytime, I am more than likely sure I d fuck them up first,.  
              And i have fucked some one up that tried to fuck with me once and it was ablood bath and they got 17 staples in thier head and were very very sorry , I may lose too and not be so lucky one day, I will cross that bride when i reach it that is if i do. I could also be lucky and never have any future problems like that one instance where well . Mt retard strength prooved helpful, Being mentally ill and bipolar sucks but when your manic and some one HAPPENS to try to attack or rob you and your in that mind state.  
   You also just so happen to be stronger than twenty mr universe.    
   SOOO  
   If man or woman is thinking its asting, Or arent felling trusting, Or the person turned which happens, Some people leave jail and become informants and make drug purchases from other they knew in prison and turns out they are now confidential informants ie rats and the drug dealer gets popped, i know a guy that happened too, He sold to a guy he did time with, GUess what, That guy ,,,EVEN though they did time together now this guy had turned and was now a c.i,. workin for the popo.  
           Ok so now, no one si ever safe and even if she has reviews what if they turn? The customer for his own legal accord shouldnt be doing hand to hand transactions, SOOO the ladies like myself that say put it on bathroom counter,    
      I want to be abe to say, "money , what money?" god forbid i ever got convicted on solicitation ie sex for fee, which never has happened, AND wont because i am not careless like i notice many many potential clients whom i delet thier reservation forms asap after recieving,    
   Many guys still feel need to make me ask for the donation, Which i hate cuz now I cant get it thrown outta court cuz NOW I cant say "money what money?' Now i am found guilty of soliciting sex as i recieved money in my hand for sex.  
                      I had a conversation with a friend today about why the customers feel the need to give details of what they want,  
   I get forms with unessesary details like oh and i like to cross dress. Or do you do water sports?  
   I charge fuckn 80 for amassage is it that difficult to book a massage and dropn 80 to meet in person and ask? why the unessesary banter I see on guys attempting to havea dialogue about illicit activities and illegal things, Its just annoying.  
                 The johns are the ones that get arrested most and its just odd how few care about any protocol of where to place donation, I request they put in envelope in bathroom, NO ONE does it, I end up HAVING to ask for it. Then they place it in front of me,    
   If I could control each and evry detail in this crazy anarchistic field of work I certainly would but its not at all the case so I adjust and conform and deal with it! I see that they look like a hobbyist and I get a feel for em in person and just hope no ones gonna come get 3 appts and build a case then try me on not one but 3 counts of soliciting sex, Which they been known to do to drug dealers, They can actually come back and come back and keep piling up many counts of same charges, I never heard first hand of them doing it to an escort, But I am sure its been done,    
                                    I wish more would do what i ask and its a good habit for every one even the johns to get accustomed to not doing hand to hand transactions, When engaged in ANYTHING illegal not just this......But no one cares............................No one evr puts it in bathroom on sink they make me ask for it, EVERY single client, GOOD TOPIC maybe some people will read this and start putting it on sink and not making me have to ruin the whole fantasy and remind them they are paying me..  
   I hate asking for that reason too , Its like reminding the guy its not a fantasy and i want his money, Id rather not have to mention money and just go in bathroom before the session and count it in there then tuck it away,,,,    
  BUT for some reason every single guy comes in attacks me and hasnt even given donation yet!!!!!! I have to say whoa whoa! did you put donation some where?  
   "uh no not yet..." but whatever its a big anarchistic arena and no one can have full control on how its run despite our efforts too... If it were up to me i dmake placing donation in bathroom on sink in unsealed envelope a honor among thieves sort of un spoken law that every one just followed and didm, BUT no one does so i just go with it and ask in person count in front them, and go with it, what else can you do? go get them an envelope and insist they do it????

In the absence of that, I usually place it on the keyboard of her laptop computer.

Never had a problem with that.

TalkToTrees1081 reads

... she was visiting your location?  

Do you still place the envelope on your laptop? Is that a wise thing to do?

I just make it simple... I hand it over to her. If she doesn't take it... then I get to keep the envelope. I'm not there to play games with an envelope. Take it and be done with it. If I was a cop, that provider would have been busted long before the envelope exchange.

Twice I've had a provider that refused to take the envelope from my hand... I told them OK... I'll keep it. Both times, they relented and opened the envelope. That's when knew that there was real cash in the envelope.

All of this non-sense about the envelope placement is stupid. It's not an "anti-LE" method for crying out loud.

The Forest Waits
 

Posted By: mrfisher
In the absence of that, I usually place it on the keyboard of her laptop computer.

Never had a problem with that.

TalkToTrees1004 reads

show everyone where in my posts that I pay at the end.

The Forest Waits

Posted By: perfectstorm
But you said you only pay at the end of the session. EOM

...I'm actually surprised no one has said they absolutely refuse to use an envelope. It's not protection against LE either.

I do, out of respect for the women who prefer it.  Then again, I use envelopes marked "Hotel Del Rey" that I took from there earlier this year.

ROGM1047 reads

The Money stays right in my pocket until the Session is over. Putting the money out where a Provider can snag it before the Session begins is a Big NO NO for me. I always pay AFTER THE SESSION IS OVER. I got Ripped Off a long time ago when I paid upfront. I vowed that will NEVER EVER happen again. I never pay a Provider upfront before the Session starts. If she wants the Money upfront I walk out on her.

And they all bareback you because you maybe have a hundie hidden in your shoe.  You are so completely full of shit, and you're rapidly going from being an annoyance to making me sick, you lying douchenozzle.  And though it's highly doubtful, if you've ever actually walked out on a provider all I can say is lucky fucking her.

The only place I've been where you need to pay up after the session is Costa Rica.  Then you can get what you pay for. In the US, trying to hold onto the donation until after the session is a guarantee of no season at all.

Always posts and then runs under his momma's skirt...no fun at all.

-- Modified on 7/20/2014 9:52:16 PM

He's told you not to use his computer without supervision.

Now it'll be no TV for you as well!

Posted By: ROGM
The Money stays right in my pocket until the Session is over. Putting the money out where a Provider can snag it before the Session begins is a Big NO NO for me. I always pay AFTER THE SESSION IS OVER. I got Ripped Off a long time ago when I paid upfront. I vowed that will NEVER EVER happen again. I never pay a Provider upfront before the Session starts. If she wants the Money upfront I walk out on her.  

AliceIsFrank935 reads

I would politely escort you tf out of my space if you tried that mess on me. NOPE.  
I/we put ourselves at more risk than you guys do in this.  

Posted By: ROGM
The Money stays right in my pocket until the Session is over. Putting the money out where a Provider can snag it before the Session begins is a Big NO NO for me. I always pay AFTER THE SESSION IS OVER. I got Ripped Off a long time ago when I paid upfront. I vowed that will NEVER EVER happen again. I never pay a Provider upfront before the Session starts. If she wants the Money upfront I walk out on her.  

Mr-Blonde1479 reads

In the old days, when you paid a prostitute, were men usually expected to excuse themselves to go to the outhouse, then come back later so that the envelope is no longer there?   Or did men just leave the money in the outhouse, then come back and tell the prostitute that they recommended she visits the shitter too?  How do these traditions even begin?

In the old days, people weren't as concerned about safety in most instances, and those who were usually left the money lying on the bed. Or so I'm told. I don't know if you're talking about the 80's, 70's, or the days of the French Revolution.

If you're already there and have dropped the envelope you are dead meat if she's LE.  Going to the bathroom so she can check the envelope doesn't remotely change that.  If fact, you're dead meat once you walk in the door if she's a cop.  The way to protect yourself from LE is to do your homework.

I drop the envelope casually on a table or credenza.  I don't expect her to need to check it until later.  I've never shorted a girl and never will.  The gals I see already know that when they check reviews, references, OKs, While Lists, etc.

...and jerks can have good refs.  

My instructions ask you to excuse yourself to wash your hands, and the session will not start until you do.  A quick peek in advance also helps to ensure there was no confusion on how long you plan to stay.

Aside of that - Seriously?!  I want your hands clean if you're touching me.  You touch money, keys, steering wheel, and all else on the way to see your lady, and you want to put those hands WHERE?

Dude.  Even if you don't expect her to check, please wash your hands!

Posted By: inicky46
I drop the envelope casually on a table or credenza.  I don't expect her to need to check it until later.  I've never shorted a girl and never will.  The gals I see already know that when they check reviews, references, OKs, While Lists, etc.

You have read a huge amount, incorrectly, into my post.  My point simply is, there is no need to go to the bathroom upon arrival at her infall simply so she can check the envelope.,  UNLESS SHE'S ALREADY ASKED YOU TO. Claro?
As for me, when I arrive at her hotel I always take a leak in one of the rest rooms in the lobby and then, believe it or not, actually wash my hands.  And if she's made it clear she expects, "a quick rinse" upon arrival, well, yes, I'll do that.
Just a friendly suggestion: in the future, try not to make so many assumptions from a simple post.
Thank you!

You opened the bathroom door.
You probably pushed elevator buttons.
Perhaps even fussed with other other things... your keys, cell phone, the envelope in your pocket.
Your hands are not clean when you walk in the door.  Assuming you had hand sanitizer you used outside her door, how is SHE to know that?

Just wash your hands once you arrive.  It gives the lady a chance to ssure the lady that you are both on the same page, that you have honorable intentions, AND that your hands are clean.

It's really not that difficult.  

Posted By: inicky46
You have read a huge amount, incorrectly, into my post.  My point simply is, there is no need to go to the bathroom upon arrival at her infall simply so she can check the envelope.,  UNLESS SHE'S ALREADY ASKED YOU TO. Claro?  
 As for me, when I arrive at her hotel I always take a leak in one of the rest rooms in the lobby and then, believe it or not, actually wash my hands.  And if she's made it clear she expects, "a quick rinse" upon arrival, well, yes, I'll do that.  
 Just a friendly suggestion: in the future, try not to make so many assumptions from a simple post.  
 Thank you!
-- Modified on 7/21/2014 10:21:16 PM

I like to place the envelope in the lavatory, that way I can wash my hands on the way out

You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.

Posted By: inicky46
I drop the envelope casually on a table or credenza.  I don't expect her to need to check it until later.  I've never shorted a girl and never will.  The gals I see already know that when they check reviews, references, OKs, While Lists, etc.

I did stress about it early on when there were no explicit instructions but I'm now in the habit of just dropping it on any hard surface and heading straight for the shower.  Sometimes when I come out it's gone, but more often than not it's in the exact place and position I left it in.  I love that because it's me saying "Well there it is and I'll be out of the room so you have plenty of time to count it" and her saying "You left the room giving me plenty of time to count it so I don't have to."  And that is awesome and the epitome of mutual respect.

I had an overnight outcall, and left the envelope in a fairly conspicuous place. In the morning, it was still there untouched. I had to leave for a meeting, so I put it on the top of her bag. On the way to my meeting, she calls me, and I told her where it was.

Because it sounds like you took off and left her in your room...no es bueno.

It was a hotel room, and I did not leave anything of real value. I doubt at 8am, she was about to empty the mini fridge. In any case, when you spend an extended time with a lady, there has to be some level of trust.

One  lady I see on a periodic basis will count the money afore we commence with the session.

Generally give it to her tucked into the flowers or in the bag with the wine or whatever.  Ask her if she' would like to put them in water/fridge while I get a quick shower.  

So far, it seems to work pretty smoothly.  I find it much less awkward than just putting it down some random place and having her play hide and go seek with it - and worry about whether I am going to stiff her (so to speak...).  With the transactional part of the engagement over with - she can start concentrating on making sure I have a good time.... which is what I am there for.  Pretending that she is, in fact, a girl-friend can be a fun part of a GFE

This thread has been very interesting in light of all the recent discussions about the tone and nature of the GB.

First, the innocent question posed in no way elicited any controversial response. One provider might have preferred the envelope be left in the bathroom where she could deal with it in private, while, I expected, another might prefer that it be left in the main room where she could easily see it at the very start of the session and count it when the client excused himself to the bathroom. The responses might have varied, but the topic is so innocuous and trivial that any down 'n' dirty responses would, to me, seem irrational.

Markus and Robbin found material for good-natured humor--which actually made me laugh--and Angel revealed a more serious aspect about clueless clients who don't handle the detail in a proper way, an issue that I suspect many providers find annoying.

One of the more abrasive posters (who in past dialogue claims to be a pussycat but who says he likes to play all the angles) proclaimed the folly of paying upfront, insisting that to make sure the session goes as he wishes he won't pay till it's over. This started a brief train, but it didn't really go anywhere.

There were fewer insults and verbal abuse than other threads, less, actually, than I had expected to surface. It was surprising.

Some took the issue far more seriously than I had anticipated. Angel's post revealed a genuine concern that ought to be taken seriously, but many other comments warning that no matter what you do, it makes no difference in terms of discretion and safety.

Also, the thread revealed an odd kind of verbal abuse that wasn't on the checklist on the link a couple threads below. We tend to respond to questions seeking out insight on personal views as hand-wringing problems for the person seeking the info. So, if in a diner, someone says, "I wonder if most customers walk up to the cashier and pay the tab, or give it to the waitress to take care of it," a certain kind of person will go off on a long tirade about the wrongness of concerning one's self with that question, how it will not save you money either way, and a host of other responses designed more to establish superior wisdom than to simple engage in conversation. I think that this is a trait that is very prevalent among people who have been very deeply involved with this lifestyle for a long time. A benign type of O/CD.

And, of course, some used the thread to display what a fine and cordial client they were. I thought that was cute and it made me smile. Innocence begets innocence?

Thanks again, everyone.

at the Booking Window with the cashier.

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