I abhor bad manners and disrespect

and I highly respect and appreciate those who I am fucking on a given day.....

 
I think the point of those who use this term though is that this very enterprise is by its very nature the antithesis of "PC" -  so it seems a bit odd to expect PC here....

beyond that,  it is the internet and it is largely anonymous.  Those who get bent out of shape by what other people say are the ones who have an issue to deal with -    and should take responsibility for their own boundaries instead of holding everyone else accountable not to hurt their feelings....

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nauseatingly politically correct it would be .... a fuck board.

Prior to that, my interaction with others in the life had been limited to the women I visited and the voices on the board.

Naturally, I expected that the other men I would encounter would be crass and foul-mouthed, terribly insulting to each other,and probably wanting in manners altogether.

I can't help being who I am, so I put on a suit with a plaid shirt and a loud tie, and though I was probably more nicely dressed than most, I didn't feel overdressed. The people at the M&G were not at all like the lowlife here. Many of them seemed rather repressed and timid. Those who mingled well were for the most part cheerful and observant of the same etiquette I'm used to in coffeehouses and taverns in my private life.

I talked to several of the women inside and outside of the venue, and they all had great attitudes, a sense of humor, and were playful in the usual ways that people enjoy enjoy each othet's company in any other place. The men I spoke to were easygoing and respectful.

There was no one-up-manship games, I heard no put-downs, no snarky remarks, and over the course of the evening I must have had at least two dozen rather lengthy conversations.

Of course I understand that probably the board bullies are not such tough guys offline, and many might use board personas that do not reflect their everyday selves.

But I also feel that those who spend an inordinate amount of time on this board often are people with only rudimentary social skills who don't function very successfully in most pedestrian social encounters. We've all experienced the rough, foul-mouthed unfortunates in saloons, grumbling, cursing, and sneering at their home lives, their jobs (most that I've come across are blue-collar workers, but I'm sure the phenomenon is not class specific).

I feel fortunate that those who attended the M&G were more like me.

The subject matter here is sex. But, not just sex; it's sex with paid companions. Given that distinction, the kind of bawdy dialog that occurs on this board would result in some immediate head-rolling were the same dialog to occur in the office----or the family dinner table (for most).  

I get that many prefer 'political correctness' be kept to a minimum. The problem is many interpret NOT being politically correct, to be the SAME THING as being as personally insulting to others as possible.  

 
Refraining from politically correctness, and being a total asshole without provocation, are not one and the same. The latter is nothing more than just being an asshole for no reason. And, then trying to justify that ass-holish-ness by saying: "well...If you don't like me calling you a fat cow when you asked about hotels, you should leave. This is a fuck board".  

 


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of which there is a link to below.  I recommend people read it if they haven't done so already.

I have a certain resistance to equating sex and civility together because while everything that SS says about sex is true, I see sex as sort of the antithesis of civilization.

I suggest reading Freud's Civilization and Its Discontents for more on this.  It's not something I'm going to try and flesh out here.

Nevertheless, we can all be civil towards one another without pulling punches if we all agree to keep the focus on ideas and not ad hominem attacks.

Perhaps their should be an Ad Hominem Attack Board so everyone can be happy.

I have to say you are all wet on this. People on this board LOVE to trash. Its fun. Its sport. Nothing deep. Quite shallow in fact. Take it for what it is. And as I said in my other post if you are looking for meaningful conversation here - look elsewhere  - like maybe an actual encounter with a human being instead of a pack of online aliases.  

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I find the differing opinions, and the freedom with which they are expressed here, to be very refreshing.  
It's FUN when things get a little heated. But I don't think outright disrespect is ever called for or necessary...not only that, but it really doesn't make for fun reading. For me, anyway.

The majority of the negativity from the various "unidentifiable" handles are women. Most likely providers, and screeners. I don't know, nor care if they are aware of their behavior, or know if others are aware who they are. Perhaps there's a method to their madness, so far I haven't been able to decipher much from it.

 
... in short I never want to visit with these subhuman examples of the female species.  

I believe most of the rape jokes, come from these insecure providers.

I'm on some small forums, and we are always very gentile with each other there.

But as the size of the forum increases, but more animosity there is.

I guess it is like society at large.

It seems to me, as absurd as this may sound, that this discussion can be applied in general - how do we treat people whom we pay to be service providers and, for those of us who are service providers, how do our clients treat us.  
I am a service provider in a very different industry  I have clients who treat me with respect and professionalism and those who think that because they are paying  me for my services, they "own" me and have a right to be abusive and condescending. I have clients who have become close personal friends and those with whom I want nothing to do with outside of the scope of my services.  
The same principle applies here. Regrettably, there are those amongst us who see this as a fuck board and the woman as the objects of their lust.  They feel that because they are paying for the services provided,  they have the right to be condescending, abusive and treat the women as dirt and trash.  
On the other hand, there are those of us who view the  providers as people who have chosen, for whatever reason, to share their most personal asset with us as service providers in the sex industry.  Many are women who are genuine and sincere, compassionate as well as passionate and who are themselves often mothers and have other professions. As Sarah has so articulated stated, it behooves us to treat them with dignity and respect and to engage in civilized dialogue on these boards. I for one am  grateful that they have chosen to share their bodies and passion with us, even if it is P4P. The fact the we are paying for their services, and that those services are essentially fucking, in no way diminishes my obligation to treat every fellow human being as an equal and not as my chattel.  
These boards should be a forum for respectfully exchanging ideas amongst like minded individuals. While there will always be differences of opinion and varying perspectives, there should be zero tolerance for  demeaning, degrading or derisive behavior towards one another. Of course, there is a  concomitant responsibility to post appropriately ( I know - opening a Pandora's box as to what is appropriate!) l.... and when someone doesn't, IMHO the best response is either polite disagreement or to simply ignore it.