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First, anyone who would rent out their own living space to a total stranger out to have their head examined.

Next, the cost of these apartments is fairly close to what a hotel would charge, plus hotels offer amenities like maid service and room service.

Unlike what the person in the article said, hotels offer more anonymity than apartment buildings because the neighbors in an apartment will complain if they see strangers coming and going while hotels are used to this kind of thing.

As a client, I feel far safer at a hotel than at someone's apartment.

I'm using airbnb for Europe this summer. Maybe I'll get lucky and have a lady hosting next door. And the rooms are nicer and about 40% cheaper than hotels FYI.

I've used AirBnB a number of times...and will continue to do so instead of hotels.  Typically the cost is half of a 4 star hotel (easily) without the cold starkness of hotels.  Some of the AirBnB's (for example I rented a very nice suite at the MGM Signature over Thanksgiving) are hotel style, complete with hotel amenities (but again the prices are 50% or more off hotels).  Most that I've rented have full kitchens and multiple beds if you need them.  As well basic cable is there, as well as wireless internet.

Many use AirBnB overseas as well.  Never had a problem there either.  Some of the "kids" may use simply a couch to sleep on for a night (talk about a cheap way to travel).  

As for using AirBnB for hookers...it seems to be catching on in popularity.  I wouldn't have any issue seeing a gal use that as incall.  Frankly I prefer apartments/condos over the hotels.  But I guess plenty others prefer the apparent anonymity of a hotel.  To each their own.

Seems that many AirBnB sellers have been stuck with these units due to the real estate collapse.  Some may use them for personal living for some time during a year...but it seems that the ones I've rented were strictly being let for short term stays.

Posted By: mrfisher
First, anyone who would rent out their own living space to a total stranger out to have their head examined.

Next, the cost of these apartments is fairly close to what a hotel would charge, plus hotels offer amenities like maid service and room service.

Unlike what the person in the article said, hotels offer more anonymity than apartment buildings because the neighbors in an apartment will complain if they see strangers coming and going while hotels are used to this kind of thing.

As a client, I feel far safer at a hotel than at someone's apartment.

0603450onThe1736 reads

for this bizness...no way no how not on any scale, not even for one booked session. I don't care how much of a deal you get. The fact that these idiots were actually recycling johns thru is just a matter of time before someone will catch on. Stupidity will get you nowhere.

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FYI there are gals (as wit in the article) that are using this as an alternative to hotels.  Plenty of BnB's are available for rent a few days or a week at a time.

And as I said...I prefer apartments/condos to hotels.  Others don't.

How this puts one at greater risk is something I guess I don't see.  Also seems that most gals (at least the types I would see) only see a few dudes in a week (or so).

Oh well...seems that when someone is not aware of something, it is presumed to be dangerous.  I'd prefer NOT to have to deal with snoopy housekeeping.

I would also hope that most hookers (at least the ones I would know or see) wouldn't leave evidence laying around.  Heck..those same gals claim to clean up their hotel rooms...guess that would extend to a BnB?  Or are the gals lying about cleaning up a hotel room?

Posted By: TaylorSteele
for this bizness...no way no how not on any scale, not even for one booked session. I don't care how much of a deal you get. The fact that these idiots were actually recycling johns thru is just a matter of time before someone will catch on. Stupidity will get you nowhere.  

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0603450onThe1626 reads

with 'one' individual vs a 'staff'. It just isn't right in my eyes and doesn't 'feel' right. That's someone's home or investment property. Idk maybe I'm weird (well most think I am) but that's how I see it. Then again, since when have I done things 'by the book' here. I do things as I see fit for me. So to each his own. I just don't agree with it in this instance. Of course I looked into it last year, had to see what the hype was about, but the more I did, the more I realized it's just not the right way to go in any event for this gig.  

Feel free to give it a shot CPA. Book an AirBnB place and have a gal come visit you there...or 2 or 3 and see how you feel. Remember, you're on the 'other' side of the coin here sir. Is 'your' name on that reservation? I think not.  

Plus, I LOVE nothing more than scoping out new hotels wherever I am. I pick a new one each visit. That's half the fun (at least for me). Am hitting my most favorite one next week, cannot wait. It happens to suit the gentleman I am meeting perfectly as that's how I typically choose. Plus, it's been on my bucketlist forever. Should be a fun date indeed for that reason alone and yes, he knows this.  

;)

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Renting a BnB would be against the grain.  So you do prefer to follow the herd and just use hotels...which is fine.  As I said I prefer apartments/condos...others prefer hotels.

I have no need to ever rent a room...that's her responsibility.  And if it's a BnB I'm fine with it...if it's a hotel I'm fine with that as well.

I would think that one item of note...those skanky hotel beds have had more cum shot on them than I would ever expect an a BnB.  Just saying.

Oh...most hotels are investment property.  And in certain instances it may also be someones home  LOL

Posted By: TaylorSteele
with 'one' individual vs a 'staff'. It just isn't right in my eyes and doesn't 'feel' right. That's someone's home or investment property. Idk maybe I'm weird (well most think I am) but that's how I see it. Then again, since when have I done things 'by the book' here. I do things as I see fit for me. So to each his own. I just don't agree with it in this instance. Of course I looked into it last year, had to see what the hype was about, but the more I did, the more I realized it's just not the right way to go in any event for this gig.    
   
 Feel free to give it a shot CPA. Book an AirBnB place and have a gal come visit you there...or 2 or 3 and see how you feel. Remember, you're on the 'other' side of the coin here sir. Is 'your' name on that reservation? I think not.  
   
 Plus, I LOVE nothing more than scoping out new hotels wherever I am. I pick a new one each visit. That's half the fun (at least for me). Am hitting my most favorite one next week, cannot wait. It happens to suit the gentleman I am meeting perfectly as that's how I typically choose. Plus, it's been on my bucketlist forever. Should be a fun date indeed for that reason alone and yes, he knows this.  
   
 ;)

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0603450onThe1292 reads

You know what I meant with 'by the book'. As far as following the 'herd'...I certainly do when it comes to the 'hotel' scenario but most deff not the 'style' of hotel. I certainly don't book the Super8's as I'm not a Super8 kinda gal (not that there's anything wrong with that mind you but that's just not what 'I'm' personally selling here). And AirBnB will become 'mainstream' at some point I have to believe unless owners catch on and find out what's really going on in their properties.  

As far as the 'responsibility' of the woman, you need to get your head out of your ass there ol' buddy ol' pal lol. It's 2014. I've split it down the middle with outcalls to upscale hotels booked by the gentleman vs incalls booked by me. You need to open your mind a bit and get with the times. Until you do, you can't say a damn word and have me of all people, actually listen to you whatsoever lol.  

Until I ever hear...CPA's booked the room...this discussion is OVER I'm afraid...my friend. I am 'not' the type of woman (you and most on this board) would ever book with, so this conversation is really null and void.

;)

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I would never even show up if a hooker was using that.  Most of the gals I've ever know (and seen) use at least a 4 star facility.

As for the BnB...some are even nicer than 4 stars.

As for any dude getting the room...I guess there's some out there who do.  I don't know of any...but that doesn't mean that some wouldn't.

But from the gals that I know quite well...haven't seen one who expects a dude to get the room.  I would wonder why any gal would expect a guy to get the room.  Maybe because they can't afford to do it?  And at your rates...that wouldn't seem to be the case..but perhaps it is?

You'll never hear any hooker say CPA booked a room...ever.

Posted By: TaylorSteele
You know what I meant with 'by the book'. As far as following the 'herd'...I certainly do when it comes to the 'hotel' scenario but most deff not the 'style' of hotel. I certainly don't book the Super8's as I'm not a Super8 kinda gal (not that there's anything wrong with that mind you but that's just not what 'I'm' personally selling here). And AirBnB will become 'mainstream' at some point I have to believe unless owners catch on and find out what's really going on in their properties.  
   
 As far as the 'responsibility' of the woman, you need to get your head out of your ass there ol' buddy ol' pal lol. It's 2014. I've split it down the middle with outcalls to upscale hotels booked by the gentleman vs incalls booked by me. You need to open your mind a bit and get with the times. Until you do, you can't say a damn word and have me of all people, actually listen to you whatsoever lol.    
   
 Until I ever hear...CPA's booked the room...this discussion is OVER I'm afraid...my friend. I am 'not' the type of woman (you and most on this board) would ever book with, so this conversation is really null and void.  
   
 ;)

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GaGambler2029 reads

and yes I have brought several providers to those rentals, and yes it was MY name on the reservation. NBD IMO. I not only enjoyed renting the properties, but I enjoyed "renting" the companionship as well.

I've done this not only in the US, but in a few different countries as well. My favorite was a three level 500 sq meter place up on the hill in Bogota. For $250 a day I got a freaking palace complete with a maid and driver. The only problem was trying to get the chicas to leave afterwards. They, (and I) didn't ever want to go home.

If the lady is a well reviewed indy she presumably knows the ropes and doesn't do sketchy deals for wherever she stays.  I've been to lots of fine hotel rooms and plenty of nice apartments and have always felt secure.

HooktardGold1239 reads

but BNB got too famous and too many hookers were broadcasting using that company right here on TER. How dumb is that? I don't care how private you think a place is (even PM), it's never really that private. How do you think Greendot caught on to providers using their cards to pay their pimps, agency owners and take deposit? You guessed it. Now, there is a limit to what you can transfer to a card and I have heard accounts are being frozen with no explanation.

hookers asking for the names of hotels and stupid mongers replying with actual names on their local board.  Of course LE is listening and love to know which hotels hookers are using.

Ah my dear... there is something to be said for having a kitchen and laundry facilities on-site when traveling and touring.  I do not want maid or room service, I want privacy, something more beautiful and personable than most hotel rooms,  and a place equipped for me to eat and rest well during my travels.  Vacation rentals are often quite lovely, very clean, and have everything one could want.

I just stayed in an AirBnB property during my vacation in Caye Caulker.  It was spectacular!  A full little cottage house - air conditioned, full kitchen, laundry, bug screens, a great patio for watching sunsets with a book in hand...and just a short little walk to the town center, great food, and snorkel and dive shops.  From the looks of the hotels I saw on the island, I wouldn't have gotten a nights rest in any of them for either noise or fear of sand fleas and bed bugs.

As someone else mentioned, these properties are often "second homes" (i.e., no personal stuff and very little if any valuable items on site), they pay for themselves while allowing the owners to use them if they would like.  AirBnB has vouches - based on your past reviews (as either a traveler or the property itself) there is a nice little check system to help ensure you are not letting anyone too crazy into your space, and/or that the property is as it is listed.  I can see that an owner might have issues if they are renting to anyone, vs. ensuring that the renter has a solid history as a guest.

I love the sites.  Hopefully AirBnB will get up to speed on the tax compliance issue before it gets shut down in litigation

HooktardGold1408 reads

I am only against using places that have the issues this one does. I have never seen Meyer on the news concerning hookers using their properties. Hmmm... why is that? I used strictly private incalls for six years and never had a single issue, and yes I prefer rooms vs. just one.

0603450onThe1724 reads

by 'more' money in their pocket, not 'less'. Sorry to burst your bubble on your OTC fantasy here. We certainly give it out to certain gentleman who 'earn' it the right way first and who certainly don't 'expect' it. That's not for 'you' to ever decide I'm afraid. That's up to each woman here and each specific gentleman she enjoys spending time with.

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Back_In_Black1894 reads

the guys know who they are . so if it comes down to every minute counted or an extra hour or more thrust me guys will give that lady their business. . and a lot of girls who added the 90 fee lol ..I for one refuse to see anyone who states a 90 minute rate , no relaxing and will not be on some clock, know do I expect extra NO but do I appreciate extra YES..

Posted By: TaylorSteele
by 'more' money in their pocket, not 'less'. Sorry to burst your bubble on your OTC fantasy here. We certainly give it out to certain gentleman who 'earn' it the right way first and who certainly don't 'expect' it. That's not for 'you' to ever decide I'm afraid. That's up to each woman here and each specific gentleman she enjoys spending time with.  

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Back_In_Black1470 reads

did you push back as I thrusted my dear ..xoxo I did go deep .  

Posted By: Back_In_Black
the guys know who they are . so if it comes down to every minute counted or an extra hour or more thrust me guys will give that lady their business. . and a lot of girls who added the 90 fee lol ..I for one refuse to see anyone who states a 90 minute rate , no relaxing and will not be on some clock, know do I expect extra NO but do I appreciate extra YES..  
   
Posted By: TaylorSteele
by 'more' money in their pocket, not 'less'. Sorry to burst your bubble on your OTC fantasy here. We certainly give it out to certain gentleman who 'earn' it the right way first and who certainly don't 'expect' it. That's not for 'you' to ever decide I'm afraid. That's up to each woman here and each specific gentleman she enjoys spending time with.  
   
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0603450onThe1424 reads

watchers and there are 'clock' watchers. Only the gentlemen who see me and have spent time with me know which one I am and where I stand on that notion. As for those women who are being targeted as the 'OTC' gals, I feel for them then in all honesty. As far as I'm concerned that is not for public display and is different for each connection gained here. To each his own then.  

And you don't backchannel huh...............Ok Mr. Back, I mean Black.

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Back_In_Black1272 reads

Posted By: TaylorSteele
watchers and im not 1 . I am now offering 1 free hour for every hour purchased like carvel. buy 1 get 1 free. and a cherry pop with each taker .  
I don't back channel , sorry I really don't .

JackDunphy1321 reads

Kinda like a subsidy program for johns. You can be the pilot program. It may do wonders for your image.

0603450onThe1458 reads

And if you book yourself, you'd know the answer...... not that I'd see you anyway LOL ;)

As far as doing 'wonders for my image'...LOL whatever is NOT public works for me. And the gentlemen who I see (consistently) know this. Those who do not really isn't a concern of mine now is it. My circle is small and I like it that way. If you aren't part of that circle, well then I am sorry Mr. Jack. LOL ;)

Other than that, I really have 'no comment' if you want to know my real thoughts on the topic of OTC and those who 'abuse' the system knowingly. Has usually nothing to do with the woman, but the men here ONLY and what they feel is 'expected'. I have zero respect for those individuals and yes they know who they are rightfully so.  

Why are you saying you are one of them? An OTC abuse that is? Sure sounds like it.

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JackDunphy1617 reads

I have TOO much OTC time on my hands. Its you crazy hookers I have to keep telling to ease up with it.  

You all make me feel pressured to accept it, not the other way around. Cosette can fill you in if you're still confused.

HooktardGold1859 reads

I've never used airbnb or my own home, and never would. Your risks greatly increase by doing so. There are condos that are in resort buildings that rent just like hotels do that work much better. In fact, the building I live in works the same way... half residents, half resort. I have used private condos but generally you know who owns the thing and never for more than one person a stay. If I had to see more than one person say on a tour, I slummed it and used hotels as much as I hated it. It just worked better if I saw 3-4 guys in a 5 day period.  

As for OTC time, providers in NYC should not have to spend 500 on a hotel room just because they happen to live there. If they can save money, I am happy for them. I never had a problem with OTC time, but I charged enough for that not to matter.  

Posted By: JackDunphy
...you'll throw us all a little more OTC time? Maybe? :D

and if I'm on one of my 3 hr or 4 hr dates that include social time out of my "luv nest" of the day, the last thing I'm doing is watching the damn clock, I'm too busy having FUN.

;-)

Steph

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Back_In_Black1248 reads

always said the 3 to 4 hour works best often half a day or more . and the lady is happy she doesn't have guys lined up ... but they need to provide good service and some nice established men ... but to often many girls burn so many guys it just wont work  

Posted By: MatureGFE
and if I'm on one of my 3 hr or 4 hr dates that include social time out of my "luv nest" of the day, the last thing I'm doing is watching the damn clock, I'm too busy having FUN.

;-)

Steph

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Burning bridges with clients is not a good way to "EARN" those longer dates for sure.

:-)

Steph

Back_In_Black1260 reads

MISS YOU ...  

Posted By: HooktardGold
I've never used airbnb or my own home, and never would. Your risks greatly increase by doing so. There are condos that are in resort buildings that rent just like hotels do that work much better. In fact, the building I live in works the same way... half residents, half resort. I have used private condos but generally you know who owns the thing and never for more than one person a stay. If I had to see more than one person say on a tour, I slummed it and used hotels as much as I hated it. It just worked better if I saw 3-4 guys in a 5 day period.  
   
 As for OTC time, providers in NYC should not have to spend 500 on a hotel room just because they happen to live there. If they can save money, I am happy for them. I never had a problem with OTC time, but I charged enough for that not to matter.  
   
Posted By: JackDunphy
...you'll throw us all a little more OTC time? Maybe? :D

JackDunphy1508 reads

A bit psychotic maybe...but oh so interesting! So is Friday or Saturday better for you, you know, for the OTC time? :D

Cosette1471 reads

I'll give you 45 minutes if 15 includes listening to my reasons why it's poor etiquette to ask about the whereabouts of ladies and you pick up a 2 glasses of wine tab. My hood is inexpensive so $12 during happy hour.  

Coolio

JackDunphy1612 reads

You have to give me 5 mins to bitch about BSC hookers and their penchant for wanting their male counter posters to commit suicide! :D

GaGambler1741 reads

I am over there strictly for amusement, and I really had no intentions of even posting much less getting into it with her, but her buttons are SO easy to push, I just couldn't help myself

GaGambler1934 reads

I can't help it if I take a perverse pleasure in bringing the BSC that is lurking just beneath surface in so many hooking, and bringing it out for all to see.

All she had to do was quit digging once she found herself in a hole, but she just couldn't help herself and now she is in free fall without a net in sight. I wish I could take credit, but all I did was give her a slight nudge in the "wrong" direction, she is the one who ran with it.

Cosette1904 reads

Because the premise of the original statement was coherent. But sometimes we lose our cool.

Meanie 101, room #: Dallas.

GaGambler1701 reads

A couple of months ago that might not have been the case. You are learning grasshopper. lol

and I know this sounds a bit juvenile, but she did start it. All I did was give her a small lesson on what happens when hookers turn into drama queens and have to be "right" at all costs. You know me, this was me with the gloves on. I was actually rather gentle.

FWIW there could be a very good reason for asking publicly about a provider without reviews for that long. Women change, and some body types are more prone to "blimping up" than others. If I were the OP, I would like to get some reassurance that she was still what she used to be, and not 40 lbs more than he bargained for.

I will confess that he didn't say that, but it still a valid point. I would have mentioned it on the thread itself, but it had already gone off the rails by the time I showed up. I just decided to have some fun with a train that was already off the tracks.

JackDunphy1853 reads

Sia is a notch on MY belt pal. I know you have your share, but this one was all mine from the git go.

What's right is right. Show me some friggin respect with that girly white uniform and throw me a prop you whore breaking herder you!

Like the Ice Man sayeth to Maverick..."You can be MY wingman anytime."  

But you'll have to ask nicely. lol

GaGambler1468 reads

and actually neither of really did that much, she did most of it on her own, but yes it was you that set her off to begin with, I will give credit where credit is due.

I do wonder though, which one of us do you think she dislikes more?

JackDunphy1539 reads

If I did have to guess, I would say she hates you but absolutely despises me. You came in mid-thread so the animous had a longer time to build with me.

I really hope she comes back. Maybe you should apologize. LOL.

GaGambler1310 reads

You have my humble apologies for stating thing in a matter that gave me more credit than I deserved.

See, unlike a certain BSC hooker, I can admit it when I am wrong.

Of course we could have settled it another way, We each could ask her for a "date" whichever one of us actually gets one is the loser. lmao

JackDunphy1537 reads

If hard core hobbyists can be civil every vernal equinox, so can a BSC hooker. Just hope those meds hold up long enough for us to find out. Hers, not yours...lol

GaGambler1470 reads

She was actually pretty good for much of the day, but she never seems to close out the day that way. I guess her meds don't hold up that long either.

HooktardGold1460 reads

I gotta say, she's well written bwahahahaha. Anyone who can spar with you two whilst leaving the razor at home, is pretty damn good. Most hookers would have reported all the posts and went home to cry. I say we get her on the GD. :)

We should be alarmed and pissed at anyone involved in P4P who would even think of talking to a reporter about this.  Someone needs to remind that provider quoted in the story about The First Rule of Fight Club.

Apartments ... blah blah blah ... rentals ... blah blah ... What about that part that says "using its site for sexual escapades, including an orgy in Chelsea last month that was promoted online as an “XXX FREAK FEST.”  (Chelsea is a neighborhood in lower Manhattan to the non-NYers reading this.)  

When's the next one!?

HooktardGold1386 reads

and I do have a few peeps in Manhattan. LR got around long before she got around for cash bwahahhaa. I was there in 1999 for New Years Eve, baby... was not even old enough to drink yet.

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