guy there are dozens of girls by you that do that stuff

and like it . since you have reviews pm stp ( only throwing your name out cause he has reviews and is in your area) and perhaps youll get what your looking for .good luck old ugly fucker .  

Because as it turns out the ladies here really have no clue what they like, what they're comfortable with and what health risks they're willing to take. So of course I come in and figure all that out for them. And as for their postings, profiles and ads that state they have no interest in negotiations and that state clearly what activities they are willing to participate in,  well those are all like the Pirate Code--more like what you would call guidelines.  So as for me I will continue to disregard and disrespect each lady's stated menu because we all know how they love a little paternalistic condescension.

Respecting boundaries is very important.

After knowing a gal for a considerable amount of time, it's not unusual for her to begin inquiring as to what kinds of unusual things might float my boat.  One a few occasions we have tried them out.  Sometimes she finds she likes it, and sometimes not.  It's kind of fun to explore.   COF is probably the most common thing that I would try out with a gal who otherwise would say no to that.

Then there are a few occasions when a gal wanted to do greek with me even though her profile says no to that.  That's one of the plusses of being a minus in that department

Why not just find ladies whose menu covers what you like, instead of trying to get others to change their menu?
Do you go into KFC and try to get them to give you a Big Mac?

But when there is trust and a connection (someone I see often) I have no problem inquiring if there's any fantasies or things they may want to do to keep things spicy.

In my experience, being a regular client might get you a little something extra.  Without you even mentioning it.
I realize that some guys don't repeat...  I respect that, but I prefer to have one or two regulars.  Mutual respect and trust (and pleasure!) is usually a by-product of repeated visits.  
Just my 2 Lira

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Strange...

Very odd question. I mean there are providers that don't offer Greek but 100% of the providers I know... or for that matter what probably is 80% of those I heard off offer the other 3 and 50% of them probably offer Greek.  

Most also offer LFK and many of those DFK as well. Am I missing something here or do I just live in another (better) world?

And a sure way to get a refusal.  Just sit back and let it happen, then be grateful.  And don't put it in a review, or you'll never get it again

Then you are good to go.  If not, suck it up buttercup and do your research next time.  Will a lady do more for you sometime if she feels like it? Perhaps, but by asking for something she has already specified is against her will, then you are just being a dick.

And then, once BCD's, you try your luck at asking for something you already know she doesn't offer. And you're not having much luck with this approach (despite your charm or offer of more money)? And, you've done this more than once, with same results?

Huh.

I have not read any other responses to this. But, SHIRLEY, someone has brought you back to reality.  

Just don't.

It's a great way to kill the mood in a session, and also lose her trust. She will never comfortable with you...so your chances of getting ANYTHING off the menu, EVER, are pretty much shot. In fact, she might relegate you to some sort of "Only when broke" folder and/or just DNS you altogether.

This is exactly what providers DO NOT WANT. Just an example: I do not like being peed on. If someone wants to pee on me...I'd 1000 times rather that he contact someone else rather than even bring it up to me, ONCE, no matter how casually. Because the specter of being asked for such an activity again...would give me the willies.  

If the same client offered me an extra $100 or $1000 to do it...it would be even worse. It would somehow mean that he felt entitled to it...that even though I'd said no, he felt that he could pay me to do whatever he wanted. That he felt that he could BUY/OWN me. You'd never EVER get another date.

If you want a service, book with a gal who offers it.  It's just dumb & insulting to ask for items which you know she's not comfortable with.  VIP is cheaper than even one spoiled date!

I would rather part on good terms than have her think I cannot read or do research. Better to sample off of a large menu than to try and order Souvlaki in a French place.

From my limited experience:

Some providers list services that they provide routinely, but don't list services (like CIM) that may vary depending on how well they like or know the client.  First time visits usually get minimum menu, while repeats may get a bit of latitude and regulars might get more.  If Greek is off the menu, it usually stays off the menu.

I don't push at all for anything not cheerfully offered, but I might lightly ask if it's OK.  If not, no big deal and I usually try to crack a joke so they know it's no big deal.

I will drop his ass faster than a hot potato.

This is the first inherent red flag for a HABITUAL LINE STEPPER.
Someone who does not respect boundaries. Sorry, I know a few of you THINK "oh everything has it's price" or that you can just sweet talk us into some "dookie love" or some other off the menu item (*using greek as an example, purely b/c it is NOT on my own menu.)  
I don't do it, I don't like, matter of fact, tried it, and my partner wasn't gentle enough-
I will never go there again, civvie or pro.

Once we're past the point on you understanding it's not on the menu initially, if you ask.... BAM.

I will be the sexiest ghost you ever saw, because that's all I will be, a memory.
You would be..
Cut off.
Finished.
Finito.

If I seem pissy, it's because someone hasn't respected my boundaries.
Find someone who will cater to your wants, without the passive aggressive begging....

As Charlie Murphy said it best, "Keep it up, line stepper."

There have been providers who have told me no way to Greek or bondage.  I ask if I do a multiple hour appointment and sometimes they say yes. Others it takes years.  Others no way in hell will they try it. Another trick I use is to tell them their provider friend let me do it.

Any girl can deepthroat...

...if you push hard enough.

Sure i have

Its a fucking business. I always ask though; never demand.
Anyone who's fucking offended bye a question of simple business need to take up another position where dogmatism is the standard.

I am asked frequently if we'd change "this" or "that". We usually don't but we HAVE made changes on occassion.

Once in a while, but It's all about the Charm

With certain things I definitely stick to my guns, but others not so much. A handsome, charming, generous gentleman can get me to bend the rules a little bit as long as it is not out of my comfort zone. It's all about how you ask!  

consistency is the key

I think if providers aren't consistent with their menu, things get messy and soon people start walking in and out doing whatever they want.

A provider let me CIM which is NOT listed in her profile.  She said it was HOT.

Why the word "no" is so fucking hard for you to understand is beyond me.  

And the more you behave like an entitled prick, the more we will say no, and the more we are likely to tell the next girl so she'll be ready to say no too. This is one of the fastest and surest ways to bring a shit time on yourself.

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Otherwise you lost me...Or else you mean the normal thing where a woman offers something to you she only offers to the select good clients she feels comfortable with.  

Nah, My gut is you are familiar with vaginal washing.