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How do you think most of us set our rates?
HooktardGold 1842 reads
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I mean duh. If I charge 300 and a guy wants a room that costs 300, it would be beyond stupid not to account for the cost of the room he demands. Now, if I charge 1000 a 300 dollar room is a given in addition to many other things. You get what you pay for. If you want the Waldorf, you don't see a provider only asking for 300 and expect her to fk you for free.  

Some of you need to research the basic economic principles of Marginal Cost, Marginal Revenue and Fixed and Variable Costs.  

Our fixed costs encompass advertising for many, as they will pay a fee regardless of whether or not they get business from it. Those can change depending on area and how long a tour goes, and as they do, they become variable costs... we have to adjust for such expenses.  

To answer your question, all clients pay the same rate regardless of what it costs to advertise. Unless a provider is touring a place like NY or LA and adds an extra fee to account for that higher flight and hotel cost, advertising is simply the cost of doing business and that falls on us, not the client.  

 
I don't know about other providers, but I did not waste my time as one to be forced to turn tricks in my own bed, live in some crappy one bedroom apt. have no car or have to lease one, and send my kid to public school. I did it to live the good life, and that's not so hard to do in the south. If I wanted to live average, I could do so working at Walmart. Just sayin. So yes, my expenses (fixed and variable) were passed on, as I refused to take less than x amount to even do this. On the same token, I never had to manipulate anyone and I took very good care of the men I saw.

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Pimpathy3302 reads

I would think any sensible business owner would do just that.

 
That notion lead me to ask this. Ladies who spend a lot of money on advertising, and other electronic communications. Should the customer who found you with relative ease, by looking at the most common and popular advertising venues... Pay the same rate, as the customer who saw your ad on every ad site in which you advertise?

 
IOW  Should a client be financially responsible for your promotion costs, when those promotion costs are not the direct reason you landed that particular client?

Everyone should be treated equally, whether they saw you on x,y,z website.. It's like Carl's Jr trying to charge extra for food to those who saw their Superbowl ad and charge less to those who saw the ad on a free newspaper.. I feel that our rates should be all inclusive (overhead, gas, advertising, personal upkeep etc).

A lady should charge whatever she feels her services are worth and that should also factor in her expenses.

GaGambler1750 reads

and the guys paying more are likely to get a bit miffed. Does anyone remember what happed to Ms TER February. That alone should be enough to keep others from going down this path.

Sorry, I meant to say Ms TER January. My bad

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Toofkinstoopid1653 reads

She thinks people have forgotten!

GaGambler1733 reads

and this is pretty recent history.

I mean Tardlor still thinks that we are going to forget all the crap she has pulled here, but as long as the "usual suspects" are here, no one is forgetting a damn thing.

The same with Julia, Some things are forgotten easily.

Pimpathy1704 reads

You brought up a good example, which I didn't think of. What ever one's opinion is, it can be done.

 
I was thinking more along the line of same provider, same price. Despite what is a practical, and fair business practice of charging a flat rate. The customer who was solicited at  a lower cost, is paying more for the same service, as the customer who was more expensive to solicit.

 
I know we are talking a disposable income, luxury purchase.

Where IS Corrine?

Posted By: GaGambler
and the guys paying more are likely to get a bit miffed. Does anyone remember what happed to Ms TER February. That alone should be enough to keep others from going down this path.

Toofkinstoopid1839 reads

She's alive and well on Eros in Charlotte! And it looks like she just can't stay off Julia's profile for some strange reason.

Posted By: USGrantlover
Where IS Corrine?  
   
Posted By: GaGambler
and the guys paying more are likely to get a bit miffed. Does anyone remember what happed to Ms TER February. That alone should be enough to keep others from going down this path.

Corrine's Eros profile is showing on Julia's TER profile (and I suspect you have something to do with that), but neither Corrine nor Julia have ads up on Eros.  On Eros you can have a profile that can be seen via a link even if you don't have an ad up; I went through quite a bit of hassle to get my Eros profile removed long after my last ad was down.

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Toofkinstoopid1923 reads

Now she's poof gone! And I didn't do shit to her profile!

HooktardGold1626 reads

Don't know about the Carolinas but a NY VIP is over 300. So many ladies run those things and they rarely translate to more business or even better clients. Your reputation is what speaks, not the ads you place and I have ran enough VIP ads to know they don't do much good in the south.  
 

Posted By: Toofkinstoopid
Now she's poof gone! And I didn't do shit to her profile!

Toofkinstoopid1636 reads

So everyone will know WHO you mean!

Pimpathy1756 reads

Rates should be all inclusive and customers should be charged the same rate. While it is unfair for a customer to technically pay more(while paying the same rate), as the customer who was more expensive to land.

Just tell her you're pimpathy I'm sure they'll give you a discount.  
Also ask for bare back full service and demand you cum inside her. Then raise her kid for 18 years. Sex would become totally fair since she didn't pay for that lousy cost of her ads when you found her

Pimpathy2061 reads

I have several open bar tabs open, under your name.

Just make sure you order me a glass of patron cocktail straight up.  Some chicken wings too. Extra hot sauce,  I am gonna go crazy spicy cuz I don't have an appointment today.  lol

The old axiom is belied, apparently there are stupid questions beyond the ones not asked.  In fact this is so dumb it doesn't merit an answer.

Pimpathy1327 reads

This question could be applied to any situation between a buyer and seller.

Posted By: thehumanist
The old axiom is belied, apparently there are stupid questions beyond the ones not asked.  In fact this is so dumb it doesn't merit an answer.
 
Explain why this is a dumb question.

Should I pay less for a car because I saw it on the lot vs. watching the expensive TV ad?  Who would say they saw the ad?  I think I'm going to have an embolism having to explain this to a supposed adult who presumably participates in the free market system.  Or maybe you're a government employee and that's why such a scheme makes sense to you.

Pimpathy2167 reads

When the dealer's advertising was not responsible for your purchase.  

 
Are you telling me it's the customer's responsibility to keep a dealer in business?

 

 

Posted By: thehumanist
Should I pay less for a car because I saw it on the lot vs. watching the expensive TV ad?  Who would say they saw the ad?  I think I'm going to have an embolism having to explain this to a supposed adult who presumably participates in the free market system.  Or maybe you're a government employee and that's why such a scheme makes sense to you.  

Because no other business would be required to do so. A business figures out it total overhead, and develops a price of it's products and services accordingly. If I eat at a restaurant that a friend recommends, does that mean I should get my meal cheaper than if I had heard about it from an advertisement?

HooktardGold1730 reads

Agreed, but why are providers doing it, if it's so 'dumb?'

My point was more that advocating for it as a smart strategy that makes sense for any business, which is what OP did, is profoundly stupid.  Certainly one can try to segment the market that way, charging one rate through a "high end" site and another on BP, but it sounds like a good way to get a bad reputation.  And I'm assuming the only variables are the relative costs of advertising venues and which of them a prospective client used, again in accordance with the idiocy of OP.  Certainly I don't expect a lady to charge the same for her services in NY as in Bumfuck, IL.

Cosette1719 reads

recommended the restaurant or because you saw their ad in a foodie magazine?



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just like I do in my business and businesses in general do.

The basic rule is supply and demand, and then the number of other issues is so great as to be incalculable, but then a rate appears and you pay it or you don't.

I wouldn't have it any other way

But he's definitely trying hard for that SPOTY trophy.  
Maybe he's jealous that fungus got the life time award?  lol

I don't know if she still does, but that never really made sense to me, since they could just say they found her ad somewhere else to avoid paying the extra $75 or whatever.

Financial costs are passed to you when you advertise on providers behalf and pay for it. Otherwise, all cost of doing business is passed on to you indirectly.

Did you just graduate from grade school?

GaGambler1915 reads

"when you advertise on providers behalf and pay for it"???

Just WTF is that supposed to mean?

did you EVER graduate from grade school?

WTF are you talking about.. I read that 3 times.. Still makes no sense to me..

I am lost..

 
P.S - Not all brown people are this stupid..

I speak for all blacks who say "We are humiliated by Tardwell.  All this time perfecting our smack talk, then that tool comes along and ruins our rep. What a fucking 'Tard. We cast the fucker out! He's officially white."

I am not black or brown. Where the fuck you got that idea from?

Do you clowns think people live to clarify thing for you idiots?

that we were talking about Roddy Tardwell, not your lame ass.  I don't care what color either of you are.  What bothers me is you're both so unbelievably stupid.  And you have proven it once again.

cuz it's hard for me to believe how anyone could ever write such an incomprehensible sentence  but then he and pimp might be tag teams working together aiming to write the most clueless and dumbest posts ever.  

Count how many mean posts he has posted. Actually the number of  insanely dumb posts from him are nearly impossible to count cuz he posts so many of them. complete brainless mannerless moron.

who happens to think he is smarter than everyone else on the planet. Most of the time I am fucking with you and GaG the shit head. Never seen two easy baiters. Now a third one has joined by the name of Drunken Asian.

You three think that board is your satisfaction and pleasure. Get life shit head

And, no, I don't think I'm smarter than everyone else on the planet.  I'm just pretty sure I'm smarter than you.  As GaG said, however, that's not much to crow about.

He would just reappear with another "pearl" in a few hrs or days... out of nowhere..

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after all most muscular men don't like women and all reviews are fake,  according to him.  lol

Is he really seeing only one girl per year? I wouldn't be surprised.  :D

I very seldom write reviews. Don't care for them and generally don't use it see providers either. Most of them are fake shit anyhow.

Only you are that stupid.

Let me make it crystal clear to you and your shit head bud GaG

If you advertise on a providers behalf you pay the cost.  

Many providers call this a business and all business have cost of doing business so, if this is a business it has. Costs are passed on to customers. Let me give you an example, most providers charge extra for out calls and some providers in NC charge less for out calls because they don't have an in call so, out call costs them less. Get it?

Third sentence self explanatory. If you don't understand go back to school but please don't go to LSU. See how shit head GaG turned out with petroleum engineering.

I am still not following how I, as a monger, is advertising on anyone's behalf..

I don't advertise... They do.. Or agency does, if she works for agency...Sometimes the costs get passed on to me, sometimes she absorbs it.

Again... I don't ADVERTISE for anyone... If you are, then you should change your handle to Pimpathy 2

HooktardGold1843 reads

I mean duh. If I charge 300 and a guy wants a room that costs 300, it would be beyond stupid not to account for the cost of the room he demands. Now, if I charge 1000 a 300 dollar room is a given in addition to many other things. You get what you pay for. If you want the Waldorf, you don't see a provider only asking for 300 and expect her to fk you for free.  

Some of you need to research the basic economic principles of Marginal Cost, Marginal Revenue and Fixed and Variable Costs.  

Our fixed costs encompass advertising for many, as they will pay a fee regardless of whether or not they get business from it. Those can change depending on area and how long a tour goes, and as they do, they become variable costs... we have to adjust for such expenses.  

To answer your question, all clients pay the same rate regardless of what it costs to advertise. Unless a provider is touring a place like NY or LA and adds an extra fee to account for that higher flight and hotel cost, advertising is simply the cost of doing business and that falls on us, not the client.  

 
I don't know about other providers, but I did not waste my time as one to be forced to turn tricks in my own bed, live in some crappy one bedroom apt. have no car or have to lease one, and send my kid to public school. I did it to live the good life, and that's not so hard to do in the south. If I wanted to live average, I could do so working at Walmart. Just sayin. So yes, my expenses (fixed and variable) were passed on, as I refused to take less than x amount to even do this. On the same token, I never had to manipulate anyone and I took very good care of the men I saw.

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HooktardGold1794 reads

The tag line asks if we pass on overhead expenses to our clients, which is a given YES... you can't possibly not charge enough to account for your expenses. That might also include where you want to live, what you want to drive, and what you do with your money outside of this business. You can't expect providers in NYC and LA to be as cheap as say ones in La. and Bama... that's absurd, though I am sure some exist.  I have friends who pay 7-15k for a 2 bedroom apartment up north!  Um, you can have a mansion with a pool, on the water and 5 acres for that in the south... and OWN vs. renting.  

Then, the body is a totally different concept which asks about advertising sites. If he is asking about rates being different on say backpage and Eros pending where a client finds us, there better be a different name, website and photos to go along with it or it's gonna be hard to pull off. If my P411 rate is 400 but my Eros rate is 1000... both under LR, who the hell is gonna agree to that? That's not passing on overhead... it's inconsistent rates and pure ignorance.

Once a guy finds out he can have you for a cheaper rate, that's where he is going to go. Also, if you are trying to juggle two personas, you better make sure no one knows about it or your new high end brand is shit now. Yes, I have done it but I was not stupid about it lol. I had one rate in La and others for touring only.  



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0603450onThe1652 reads

Coming from one of the higher markets, I sometimes reduce rates when I travel. Just depends. But I don't adjust anything according to advertising. My rates are my rates.

GaGambler1847 reads

What he is talking about is having a sliding scale of rates of sorts, dependent on how much cost went into attracting each client, which is ridiculous for all the answers given so far.

Raising or lowering your prices depending on the market is only an astute business practice and one that many women have yet to learn, which is why many of these women are very disappointed when traveling from lets say NYC where $500 is the norm, to someplace like Atlanta where $500 is considered a HDH, but still wanting to charge her NYC rate. Those women are usually disappointed in the response they get and then complain that the city they visited is not "touring girl friendly"

The converse is true as well, it's not fair to expect a $300 hr lady from the south to come to NYC, incur all the same expenses that the other women in that city do, but still expect her to keep her rates at $300 hr

As for the OP, he is a troll and an idiot, and he deserves all the abuse he is getting on  this thread

You're a businesswoman running a business.  Of course costs get passed through to the consumer.  Hopefully you and our other providers are also thinking about saving money and eventual retirement (it comes to us all).  I know too many ladies who are clothes whores or worse, blowing their "easy" money on living TOO good a life and not salting away a goodly share of their earnings in a safe place.

Pimpathy1810 reads

On how overhead is factored into rate structure.

 
I'm not sure what that had to do with the question.

HooktardGold1492 reads

Huh? Did you read your own tag line? It flat out asks "Ladies, do you pass on overhead to your customers" lol. I replied to your tag line, then the body with two different answers. I did not want to miss any of it lol.  

Posted By: Pimpathy
On how overhead is factored into rate structure.  
   
   
 I'm not sure what that had to do with the question.

My opinion is that it's already built into their rates. It just another overhead and cost of doing business.

ClamsCasino1533 reads

My ladies hit me for an extra sawbuck for clean sheets, right when I can't say "no"

You are a brainless piece of shit.

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cashorcredit1941 reads

Some ladies Eros rate is higher than their rates listed on other ads sites.

But I am a firm believer that ladies should charge whatever they want, doesn't make any difference to me because as a customer I'm only going to pay for what I think something is worth. For example im not going to pay for a automobile priced at 10k if I only think it's worth 7k.  
 

Posted By: Pimpathy
I would think any sensible business owner would do just that.  
   
   
 That notion lead me to ask this. Ladies who spend a lot of money on advertising, and other electronic communications. Should the customer who found you with relative ease, by looking at the most common and popular advertising venues... Pay the same rate, as the customer who saw your ad on every ad site in which you advertise?  
   
   
 IOW  Should a client be financially responsible for your promotion costs, when those promotion costs are not the direct reason you landed that particular client?

I OWE the WORLD an APOLOGY.

This was another not so smart question...sorry, sorta;-)

A business figures out it's total overhead, and develops a price of it's products and services accordingly. If I eat at a restaurant that a friend recommends, does that mean I should get my meal cheaper than if I had heard about it from an advertisement? If you don't know the answer to that question, next time you are in that situation, try flying it by the restaurant owner. If you're a gambling man, I wouldn't put any money down on getting your meal any cheaper than anyone else.  ;)

go take a look at every single VIP ad on eros there is the answer to your question most definitely when people are advertising a bit more and paying a lot more for advertising you will most definitely see that their rates will follow.
like the ladies that get the full page ads on date check for those of us that use the vip.eros ad board
I have never seen one provider the charge is anything less than 500 on the VIP eros ad section
I don't know if they lowered it but I know when I run my VIP arrows ads they are close to $400
or was it 360 I can't remember this so many add-ons above the VIP
I cut back on my advertising big time I took myself off dc p411 and eros.
my overhead is not very big but I do put a lot of money into the products I use as far as massage oils fancy sheets high quality essential.oils and massage product, oils,  
and there is still a ton more things I need to buy to add to the list. I just need the hand restraint cuff.
Foot restraint cuff. A travel massGe table.
Four point restraint.
I am about to be cutting my rent costs into a third so there will be lots more spending money coming in
Come may.
Luis vutton fake tits , restyline lips, here I come baby...

GreekDeprived1129 reads

The simple concept is MR=MC, marginal revenue equals marginal cost. So the theory is spend the last dollar when it brings you in one dollar, MR=MC

Advertising isn't an overhead cost. Its a cost designed to bring in revenue.

Over head is like utilities to keep an office or production facility open.

Direct, indirect, variable costs.  

Enter the problems of cost accounting? Typical problem is does the assigned cost capture all of the costs that go into a unit? What does it cost when in a retail store somebody had to go around and count all of the .50 to 10.00 small parts in the store? Then, when the shipment came in, somebody had to count each item, compare it to the packing list, then transport it into the retail area and put it into stock—labor intensive for items cost a few cents to buy from the producer.

Many times the real question is if the books say something costs 18.11, does it cost 38 or 11 dollars, the cents units are irrelevant.

One does not pass along expenses, in spite of rumors promulgated on TV. That is similar to saying one passes on the cost of manufacturing a product to the consumer that buys it.

Expenses are within the realm of taxation, the dos and don't government rule for counting what goes against what is received when something is sold.

The basics are $$ flow in, $$ flow out, cash flow. Out going $$ are costs, incoming funds are revenue. the second part of record keeping are the assets and liabilities which are in the balance sheet.

Because an organization has to pay taxes, gov gives the rules for counting, cost is transformed into an expense which in turn is held against revenue that is counted as income--income statements.

What causes problems are tax liabilities which must appear in the balance sheet but no funds have flowed, hence no cost.

Taking a look from an entirely different perspective, consumer behavior, how does one assign data that contributes to the purchase decision? Part of the decision is relative value, which is depended upon present conditions and expectations for the future. If a customer has seen an add in the past, how to assign the funds that put the add in the customer's head? How to gauge the level of influence of any prior adds?  What you gonna do if the information that says the purchase is word of mouth, a review, or many reviews?

Ignore all of that. What happens when someone shows up and has never seen any advertising, his buddy sent him? Now try and tell different customers why they have to pay more for identical service other customers receive? Ever find out you paid $1,000 more for the identical car your next door neighbor bought?

In a restaurant and have to pay more for the same food that is being eaten at the next table?

Switch perspectives again, how is a provider going to have all of the information necessary to make those decisions? Why would a provider spend all of that time getting all of the necessary information. Why would a provider want to start pissing off customers by charging different prices for the same service?

To make matters worse for most people every entity has many sets of books, revenue and costs, income and expenses, published finical statements have their own counting rules Gap, generally accept accounting principals, managerial accounting, accountancy to show mangers how the entity functions and where they are so that decisions can be made.

Confused?  Just remember one thing, CASH FLOW is king!

joecarter1362 reads

like every business it is included in the price.

All costs need to be covered.

What exactly do they teach in schools these days?!

Some desperate people will resort to getting negative attention versus positive attention.
I suppose you can not convince some people that bad exposure... is still bad. Like you.... Pimpathy.  
Posting the most vapid, insipid drivel....  

You are an attention seeker, and I pity you.

Posting this drivel won't help you understand the business end of these things, after all, that's not what this post is even about; Now is it?

I know, I know, you try "oh so hard" to appear educated & intelligent...  
However...
Basics. You should grasp the basics before unveiling shit that makes you look dense.

The cheeseburger costs what it costs.
The car cost what it costs.
The hooker costs what she costs.

The cost is the cost.  

Consumers (clients) always pay for the advertisements when they purchase the product.  
Business 101: Make profit.
Condoms or advertisement, it's an overhead cost, period.
Even if a lady loses money with a VIP ad, the loss is going to be absorbed by other income within her business. Because that's what it is, a business.

You remind me of this one dumbass pimp who keeps texting me with some out of state number....
Fucktardation.  
Some people never learn.

"Still a horse, still at your water, still not drinking." ~Me

Posted By: Pimpathy
I would think any sensible business owner would do just that.  
   
   
 That notion lead me to ask this. Ladies who spend a lot of money on advertising, and other electronic communications. Should the customer who found you with relative ease, by looking at the most common and popular advertising venues... Pay the same rate, as the customer who saw your ad on every ad site in which you advertise?  
   
   
 IOW  Should a client be financially responsible for your promotion costs, when those promotion costs are not the direct reason you landed that particular client?

Advertising is considered an overhead expense, as is hotel cost, supplies, upkeep, etc.  

Imagine what an uproar we would cause if some dude paid a higher rate for a VIP Eros ad, then saw a BP ad of the same person for a much lower rate - AFTER he saw her. Probably not going to be happy about that.  

I think everyone is happier if they don't have to worry about getting ripped off. In the end, you're getting the same product.  

I'd be interested to see if large companies regard advertising costs into their prices. I would assume location, competition, and cost to operate for certain demographics are considered; however, a company like BMW will probably not have a dealership in a low income area, nor will they advertise in venues that cater to low income. They present themselves to the demographic most likely to pay for the quality they know they can deliver.  

The internet advertising venues, such as YouTube commercials on monetized videos, banners on YouTube pages, Facebook ads, company websites, articles,Yelp, etc., there are many different rates for advertising. One would have to consider every ad a customer saw, including billboards, that contributed to their decision to buy the product.  

In many reviews here, people say, "I've been watching her ads for a while, and decided to try her out."  

Advertising isn't just the ad that the consumer's final decision is based upon. Advertising is constant exposure to the public, which creates a brand, (which costs money to do,) as well as an image in the potential consumer's mind that convinces him/her to take the plunge.  

A person solely thinking about which ad drove a consumer to them in any business is only looking at the here and now, and not considering the entire picture.

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