We had a similar discussion more than a year ago. There is a marked improvement in his "editing". Gotta give a guy credit for trying.
Still, I'd ask admin if you can get your handle changed and keep your reviews. Maybe "GettingDownJay" ? Just sayin'
Been in this hobby 10 years. This week i was turned down twice for a meeting. Plenty of reviews and i have refrences. What is going on anymore. Thank god for ssproviders. Least they are around the area. Very frusterated as of how come i have so many reviews and not made it to a white list yet. Is my money not good anymore. My refrences said it be no problem for them to say i was good. Smh. I just dont et it rant over.
Could be that something you're saying in your emails is turning girls off. Or, the way you behave in or before sessions may make women you've seen reluctant to extend a referral.
Looking at your posting history/style, I can think of a few reasons why you might be having some issues...
Short answer, it's not them, it's you. Come across as a complete gentleman, treat your women well, and most ladies will bend over backwards to see you AND will be happy to give you a positive referral...
All i do is answer give my name info and handle name and refrences. Then after they reply ask if they take request. Isnt like im saying much more then that. Or if its been a few hrs send a email to see if im confirmed or if they need more info to help clear me. Idk. And prior post have nothing to do with how i treat a lady. Im always well mannered to the woman i see and treat them with respect. Ive never had any say other wise. Most like me cause im nice and soft spoken. Idk but thanks for the feed back.
Looking at your posting history/style, I can think of a few reasons why you might be having some issues...
Short answer, it's not them, it's you. Come across as a complete gentleman, treat your women well, and most ladies will bend over backwards to see you AND will be happy to give you a positive referral...
Women like a guy who comes across as a nice person. References/name/phone number, and nothing else doesn't convey that. Especially followed by a request for some service, and nothing else. That says, 'Hi, ho. Gimmee summa what I want!!!!'
Composing a nicely worded email, like 'Hi, I'm Jay (or whoever), I saw your ad on ___ and I really liked your ___. I'm a 40-year-old male who, like you, enjoys cooking and hang gliding. I think we'd really get along. I'd like to meet at ____, if you have availability then. If not, maybe _______. Hope you have a good day.' I hate to be the grammar nazi, but that grammar and spelling make a huge impact on your first impression. If I personally get a 'Hi can I c u tmrw' I will think that he isn't putting any effort into his email (can't even spell out y-o-u), and won't have any respect for me or my business. It also sounds kind of crass and crude...in short, it's off-putting. Hate to sound like a third-grade teacher, but that's just the truth.
I'd wait till you're verified to ask about requests. Word it nicely.
If you can't manage that, then yeah, you're probably going to be relegated to seeing providers for short sessions.
Lol yeah that would be annoying. But for real its been the last 2 weeks have hd no luck clearing. Any other time is no problem
I think of all my outreaches as a personal interaction, as opposed to a business transaction. I want the ladies I'm interested in seeing to get a sense for what I'm like. The P411 profile is another good way to do this. I put a lot of thought into my profile.
Good luck. Hope things turn around for you.
I've read the reviews you've written, and I can see certain things that would have turned me off if they had been written about me. A session could go wonderfully, but with the wrong wording in a review, all of that could be turned upside down. For example:
Josie's review: "I wanted my money's worth."
Macy's review: "She didn't even watch the clock. Had a hr an half appointment that turned into a 2an half hr one"
Brooke's review: If your a newbie she is def worth the $ and provides all the bang for your buck.
We have the ability to be selective with our clientele, so when we come across men who are rather crass in their review, it is easy to turn someone down. I prefer to connect with my clients instead of them being a customer, and me being a work horse. "Bang for your buck" ...seriously? Try to consider that you're speaking about a person, and one that you enjoyed at that. Those are not things you should be saying in a review if you want to see her or other women. You can speak like that to you buddies when you're shooting the shit, but when you write it in a public forum and we can read how you talk about us, it's a different story.
Also, in the case that you revealed that Macy gave you more time. That is a huge NO NO! She treated you to special/extra time, and you blasted her publicly. That will make others believe that they will get the same treatment, which means you caused her to have to deal with other people trying to overstay. It's as if she shared something with you privately, and you exposed it.
I'm in no way meaning any disrespect by this. I'm just sharing my opinion as a provider, and how your writing/trail on TER is likely to be interpreted in a negative way. I hope maybe the insight helps.
XOXO
Not offended at all. Bang for your buck is really just said to assure the rest of the men reading these reviews shes is worth the money she asks for and is the real deal. I didnt say it disrespectfully. And theese forums are public. But the reviews are written mostly by men. Detailing their incounter. Its also a safe way for a provider to verify the person wanting to see them. if anyone went back and checked my refrences they would know. Im ok to see and i acted accordingly. I always try and write a honest review and a good one for the ladys that i see. Never have any said they were disrespected by me nor a review. I see what your saying tho. And i asked for your opions so please keep them coming.
ALSO like i said. This is the first time in years ive been denied. In 2 weeks. Ive only been denied twice in 10 years. I didnt know if there was a new way of screening i wasnt getting.
Josie's review: "I wanted my money's worth."
Macy's review: "She didn't even watch the clock. Had a hr an half appointment that turned into a 2an half hr one"
Brooke's review: If your a newbie she is def worth the $ and provides all the bang for your buck.
We have the ability to be selective with our clientele, so when we come across men who are rather crass in their review, it is easy to turn someone down. I prefer to connect with my clients instead of them being a customer, and me being a work horse. "Bang for your buck" ...seriously? Try to consider that you're speaking about a person, and one that you enjoyed at that. Those are not things you should be saying in a review if you want to see her or other women. You can speak like that to you buddies when you're shooting the shit, but when you write it in a public forum and we can read how you talk about us, it's a different story.
Also, in the case that you revealed that Macy gave you more time. That is a huge NO NO! She treated you to special/extra time, and you blasted her publicly. That will make others believe that they will get the same treatment, which means you caused her to have to deal with other people trying to overstay. It's as if she shared something with you privately, and you exposed it.
I'm in no way meaning any disrespect by this. I'm just sharing my opinion as a provider, and how your writing/trail on TER is likely to be interpreted in a negative way. I hope maybe the insight helps.
XOXO
Agreed and he should know better than to put that in review. That is beyond bang for the buck. She was nice and gave you 2 extra hours? Did she want you to stay or did you purposely do that? How is staying that long after NOT a 10????? You come across as ungrateful if you do not give her a 10 with glowing reviews after she gave you that much OTC time. Even if she came across as a dead fish, she gave you all of that time for basically nothing and deserves a 10 period. (five times what you paid for OMFG). Anything less means you are a picky person that will not be pleased by anyone.
Obviously your references are NOT saying nice things about you, as if they were, it wouldn't be an issue. Truth. They could be keeping you for themselves or hate you, who knows?
Ten years in the hobby doesn't matter at all when you got so little reviews and none of them want to give good references. Sounds like you are also picky about review ratings. If a gal does all nice things for you, she should get real good reviews and rating. IMO
We had a similar discussion more than a year ago. There is a marked improvement in his "editing". Gotta give a guy credit for trying.
Still, I'd ask admin if you can get your handle changed and keep your reviews. Maybe "GettingDownJay" ?
Just sayin'
Thanka for giving me credit. Lol between my reviews i guess and my handle name lol. I love the handle name myself. Just to crack a smile. Ima funny happy person. And have respect for all really. Im just blunt about things and mean no harm
but, expect reciprocal treatment from the ladies.
by both the ladies and the gents here I hope you take it
being able to properly spell every word in that email is important to some women here in order to get cleared even before any references are even addressed...myself included. I'm not sure the kind of women you see here but this game is different for everyone. It really all depends on how you intend on playing this game moving forward. It changes every day and I highly doubt it's the 'same' as it was 10 years ago. Perhaps get out of that mindset. Ladies and their requirements change...daily. Perhaps you should regroup and reconsider changing your ways as a John in moving forward. Just a suggestion.
I would HIGHLY suggest listening to Philaprovider before ever contacting another woman here. In any event, good luck to you in whichever way you follow suit.
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