OK, a few hundred thousand.

So what's your problem with criminals blown to hell?  You some kind of socialist who wants to keep them in prison all their lives, sucking on the government teat?

So what if the cons get blown to hell, or maybe flambeed or roasted to hell?  Am I supposed to cry or feel bad or something?  I mean, it's right in the name - they're CONS!   How much more do you need?!!

And I can get it right the 1st time!!

Re: X, you thread hijacking bastard! (and other stuff)

What the Hell has gotten into you Bill?
Good grief, man, would you stop for a second and take a look back at how you've been presenting yourself over the last few weeks? This is not you. Take some weight off before you herniate yourself. People are starting to talk.
Seriously.

Now, on to the subject of this thread... Mossad interrogation techniques....

Put a Muslim man naked in a room with a pig and lock him in. Is that torture?
Take Xiaominglover1 and force him to listen to old scratchy recordings of Hatikvah for 24 hours.
Is that torture?
Crucify a Christian Evangelist. Is that torture?

Here's the deal. Waterboarding is crude, and relatively ineffectual. It's odious and obsolete, but cruel and psychologically devastating to the victim. But the operative word is still ineffectual.
The Israeli's are not stupid. They know they are not dealing with rational thinkers operating with conventional methods. They will have other, far more effective and devastating means to gain the information they need.
There is a reason the Mossad and the Israeli military are so highly regarded. The survival instinct runs deep and strong within the Jews. It's embedded into our consciousness, ingrained in our genetic code. Considering Israel has been surrounded on all sides by deadly enemies who want to destroy them, it is not surprising that survival instinct has led to a ruthless effectiveness on the part of the military.
When Israel was granted Nationhood 60 years ago, many of their first citizens were concentration camp survivors hardened and toughened by the Nazi camps. Three generations later, that hardness and toughness has been refined and honed into a ruthlessness and edginess not seen since the Macabees and Simon Bar Kochba fought against Rome.
The Mossad have one of the most sophisticated and effective spy networks in the world. Ruthless and effective. Do they torture? I'm sure there are those here who would like to believe they do.
But the fact is, their spy network gets more information than any fool homicide bomber could ever provide. That's the real strength of the Mossad. That and a healthy dose of chutzpah.

-- Modified on 2/9/2008 9:43:36 PM

BK, i thought i made it clear that I do not HIJACK Threads, I ILLEGALLY OCCUPY them.

Doc, bless him, missed the main point of my post.  Or he got it all too well, as witnessed by his response.  Come to think of it, I think Doc would have responded as he did pretty much no matter what i posted.

Just out of curiosity, I bestirred by loathsomely slothful self and googled "the use of tortue by the Israeli governemr."  Got the usual ratbag of stuff one expects via the google process, no doubt more heat than light, but to keep Doc indoors and away from Mel Gibson, and innocent Pally pedestrians, here's the link :

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?invocationType=searchbox.webhome&query=the+use+of+tortue+by+the+Israeli+government