virtue or vice built into any skin color, independent of any fact about or act by the person/s involved.

It's easy enough to see instances where people assume a black man is some sort of putz, without facts, simply because he is in fact black.

But as scriptfixer suggests, we often go in the opposite direction, and assume because some fellow like Shaka (or Tookie) is black, he's a warm puppy and good credit risk.  

What we are looking for here is facts, facts more relevant than skin color.

Shaka admires himself because he made a black nation.  When people point out that Shaka did that by  killing millions of other blacks in horrible ways, including his own wife & child, while the oppressing white man was at his doorstep; and the black nation he made postdated the white boers, and only 300 years later is fading into obscurity,  Shaka's only response is to call 'racist' - there is no real concern for truth, or that perhaps Africans should be looking for other heroes, or at least getting their information from wikipedia, instead of the movies.

What we have here is racism, the assumption that there is specific virtue in being born on either side of the tracks, in this case, on the 'wrong side of the tracks'.

Shaka is turning skin color into victimhood, despite the facts of the case.  He's saying that if one black man was a slave, every other black man needs reparations, including the ones who raped and robbed the slave, their own 25th cousin.

Now Shaka may be ignorant, and I don't know that's his fault.  

What IS his fault is his desire to STAY IGNORANT, and defend a vicious psychopath as if he were a hero, only because of his skin color; and turn that racial tribalism into a social niche.


No man can change what he was born into, and shouldn't be faulted for that, even if he has to live with what he is.

But if a man chooses to idolize violence over diplomacy, Shaka over Mandela, he has nobody to blame when he reaps as he sows.  

For example, blaming the British for colonial oppression (which they did) is really pointless when the colonials (particularly Shaka) were incredibly more vicious, and still couldn't get the job done as the Brits did.    There is no telling how many women & kids the Brits saved from impalement, but was that their responsibility?  Should they have done that, or just let the Zulus do what the Africans wanted?

Africa is a fucking mess, and its problems far predate the white man, and persist after him.  If you want to blame the white man, knock yourself out, I don't care.  But don't be asking me for a World Bank loan because the white man fucked you up, because all that tells me is that you still don't know how to solve your own problems, and will piss away any money I give you.

Good luck, buddy.  You're likely to need it.

why are you worried about Dog Chapman's family?   Is there some particular reason you need to shove your nose into his trailer?

You want me shoving my nose into yours?

If his son wants his father's approval of his dates, he should take the fucking tape to the family therapist, not the fucking media.   Neither you nor I are Dog's therapist; and while you may want to be, I don't.    

But the fact that his boy doesn't have a lick of sense doesn't make him my concern just yet, either.   He's also got to be stupid enough to cause damage, and trash talk isn't damage.

Why does Chapman have to use a racial epithet?  Go to his website and e-mail him the question.  Tell him you're an internet amateur sociologist, doing an essay for your forum, and you just wanted to know.

Racism exists in America, and on this board.  And lucky for you too - what else would you have to talk about, except how you should be the moderator because you get your ideas of African history from the movies?  You're not racist here by pushing the idea that black folk like Shaka are exempt from normal standards of criticism or values.

Racism has a lot to do with ignorance.  You've certainly shown us some of that.  And intolerance.  Like we should tolerate black people who pull bad shit, because, well, because they're only killing their own kind - right?  Is that it?

You've watched Dog's show, so you don't want him to lose his career.  Bullshit.  Watching his show (and ShakaZulu) may be the highlights of your life, but there's nothing you love more than being one of a mob pushing this guy around for saying something you don't like.

The whole point here is that you should control what people think, so it's ideal for you.  You are obviously qualified to do this because you watch a lot of movies.

What the fuck are you thinking here, if at all?  Are you trying  to push the idea that certain ethnic backgrounds justify ignorance and authoritarianism?  That Shaka was a GOOD psychopath because he's a BLACK psychopath?   And that is GOOD racism, not BAD racism?   Or is it just that YOUR ignorance is good ignorance, while Dog's ignorance is bad ignorance??!

So how do you suppose Shaka the psychopath got to be Zulu king?  Do you think one man could push around a quarter million people who didn't want to be pushed around?  Do you think he was doing them a favor by impaling them?    I dunno, those are questions you need to ask yourself, while you're thinking about why you idolize this man instead of others, and how handy it is to blame people the other side of the ocean for your problems.

i agree with blender?

yikes!

guilt by association doesn't work.

how are those electricals coming along?

And how the FUCK can you have electrics that get wiped out by water, when you have to know you're gonna get splashed, even in CA?

When you re-do them, can you spray lacquer or something over the connections & harnesses?