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Lovelyelle See my TER Reviews 186 reads
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Bingo, nahtynikkey! It's not so much about a marathon of quick position changes. Simply reading a woman's body language can do the trick. But, it takes longer than a few minutes for your body to even get in the groove. Women aren't as easily aroused/stimulated as men are. It is very possible to achieve an "O" every time. It just take patience and a slightly deeper level of connecting than the basic physical motions.

Posted By: nahtynikkey
"If after several minutes of trying"... that could possibly be your problem, lol. Minutes? Men can achieve an "O" in minutes... women, not so much. The average women takes at least 15-20 of stimulation to achieve an "O".... and constantly changing your strategy, many times makes us revert back to square one.

I have read many threads on “Real vs. Fake Os”. Even though most guys would rather be able to hit the spot every time, it puzzles me that some guys don’t mind girls faking it if it doesn’t happen. Some guys don’t care either way as long as they’re satisfied. Sorry guys, but NO WAY am I faking it. Of course, I’d rather get off every time. But, if I don’t, it doesn’t mean that I didn’t have a good time. I could never set myself up for future frustration. I’ve been pretty lucky so far, and I have no doubt that it’s because I simply refuse to lie about it.

I saw a new friend recently. We were having a great time, and decided to curl up and relax for a bit. After a while, the conversation turned towards naughty talk. He asked me if he did the job, and I blushed and told him no (one of those awkward truth moments). He was surprised because he genuinely thought I had. I told him that I’d come VERY close twice (which was true), but it didn’t happen. As a result, he took himself to a place where he was completely in tune with my body. Success. HUGE success... Believe me, once the mission was accomplished, he could tell the distinct difference in almost and HELL YES DEFINITELY!!!

I see lots of threads linking to blog posts where some escort has decided to rant and rave about how much she hates you guys anonymously. I’ll never understand the “I actually hate what I do because the guys think they can f*@k and I’m miserable acting like I enjoy myself” blogs that are written by obviously jaded ladies. I’ve never felt like I had to lie about it in fear of losing business. When delivered with tact and consideration, honesty can actually be an appreciated motivator. One gentleman told me that knowing for a fact that he made it happen did more for his ego than wondering about it and convincing himself that it was real.

after a while if the lady isn't achieving the o, theres' a point of diminishing returns for me.

if i'm just not doing it for her, i don't feel all that bad.  i figure money on the night stand mitigates a lot of what is expected of me, as if i were with a civilian lady.

don't get me wrong, i'm polite, i'm clean, i'm also very much fun to be with, and i don't abuse (physcially or emotionally) women in any situation.

but if after several minutes of trying and i am not able to do it for you, i move on.   either to a new position, cuddling or just relaxing.  or more foreplay.  or whatever.

and yes, i'd rather be with someone who is honest and doesn't fake it, but is also easy going about it.  like you say, just because you don't get there doesn't mean you don't have fun trying.

so in my ripe old age i am no longer goal oriented as much as i am enjoying the trip.

throwing myself out on a limb here, but...there have been times when i knew that getting me off was very much a goal of the person i was with.  when i realized that that just wasnt going to happen, yes, i faked it.  i felt as though it would be selfish of me to not do it.  he was working very hard and i knew that it might likely do more harm than good if he wasnt able to finish the job he had set out to do.  i did it because i cared about the gentleman and his feelings.  sometimes, it isnt such a bad thing.

I understand what you mean. But, IMHO, I'd rather adjust/give input/provide a bit of instruction and actually give a true performance. If he's THAT into making sure it happens, I'm pretty sure he'd rather it be real seeing as how he's putting so much extra effort into it. I think it'd be pretty selfish to fake it in that case. Plus, I'd much rather it be real myself. But, that's the beauty of this place. We're all different.

Posted By: SHE-1
throwing myself out on a limb here, but...there have been times when i knew that getting me off was very much a goal of the person i was with.  when i realized that that just wasnt going to happen, yes, i faked it.  i felt as though it would be selfish of me to not do it.  he was working very hard and i knew that it might likely do more harm than good if he wasnt able to finish the job he had set out to do.  i did it because i cared about the gentleman and his feelings.  sometimes, it isnt such a bad thing.
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scoed89 reads

And It bothers me to no end when a lady fells like she has to fake it with me paid or not. I rather be told point blank that it isn't in the works that day. I know the "O" isn't always possible and I can readily accept that, faking not so much.

however you want to see things is your option.  i have never been accused of "following" anyone, nor do i think i ever will.  i see things differently than most, so this doesnt surprise me at all.  it seems to me that a lot of girls thinks it must look better if they say they get off every time.  more power to you!  for me, i sometimes have appointments that only want to do certain activities and those activities just may not be what gets me off.  so fucking what?  i am not the one paying.  i am there for them, for a period of time, not the other way around.  it doesnt even have to be about what they are or arent doing either.  maybe my head/body is just not its usual self that day?  im sure that everyone is not 100% all the time.  so then what?  you just let the gentleman leave?  

i do not feel as though i need to defend my way of doing things, but it is my opinion that the gentleman should come first when he is with me.  i feel that it is the most respectful thing i can do for them.  no matter if i get off or not, we both walk away smiling.  there is something nice about knowing you can make someone else happy.

"If after several minutes of trying"... that could possibly be your problem, lol. Minutes? Men can achieve an "O" in minutes... women, not so much. The average women takes at least 15-20 of stimulation to achieve an "O".... and constantly changing your strategy, many times makes us revert back to square one.

Posted By: gilxner
but if after several minutes of trying and i am not able to do it for you, i move on.   either to a new position, cuddling or just relaxing.  or more foreplay.  or whatever.


Bingo, nahtynikkey! It's not so much about a marathon of quick position changes. Simply reading a woman's body language can do the trick. But, it takes longer than a few minutes for your body to even get in the groove. Women aren't as easily aroused/stimulated as men are. It is very possible to achieve an "O" every time. It just take patience and a slightly deeper level of connecting than the basic physical motions.

Posted By: nahtynikkey
"If after several minutes of trying"... that could possibly be your problem, lol. Minutes? Men can achieve an "O" in minutes... women, not so much. The average women takes at least 15-20 of stimulation to achieve an "O".... and constantly changing your strategy, many times makes us revert back to square one.

with all due respect, but the problem i have is, those minutes are minutes i'm paying for.  

i wish it didn't come down to that, but if i am with a civilian and we are in a relationship, whether it be the beginning, middle or deep in the maturity of long term, then yes, i am concerned enough to spend a half hour or so helping her come to point.

but, and i don't mean to be crass, however i really don't want to spend a third of the time i've paid for focusing on someone other than myself.  i'm really sorry, but that's how i understand this transaction to be.  

take the money out of the equation, and boy i'm ready to focus on someone else.  but if i'm paying for the time, i want the time spent on me.

sorry if that sounds selfish, but as i said, money on the table mitigates a lot of expectations.

serpius104 reads

Hey LovelyElle,

Thank you for the great post!

I am one of those guys that do pride themselves in making a lady happy as possible during the session. I feel that if both parties are happy and enjoying themselves. that makes the whole experience that much more pleasant and satisfying.

Serpius

Posted By: Lovelyelle
I have read many threads on “Real vs. Fake Os”. Even though most guys would rather be able to hit the spot every time, it puzzles me that some guys don’t mind girls faking it if it doesn’t happen. Some guys don’t care either way as long as they’re satisfied. Sorry guys, but NO WAY am I faking it. Of course, I’d rather get off every time. But, if I don’t, it doesn’t mean that I didn’t have a good time. I could never set myself up for future frustration. I’ve been pretty lucky so far, and I have no doubt that it’s because I simply refuse to lie about it.

I saw a new friend recently. We were having a great time, and decided to curl up and relax for a bit. After a while, the conversation turned towards naughty talk. He asked me if he did the job, and I blushed and told him no (one of those awkward truth moments). He was surprised because he genuinely thought I had. I told him that I’d come VERY close twice (which was true), but it didn’t happen. As a result, he took himself to a place where he was completely in tune with my body. Success. HUGE success... Believe me, once the mission was accomplished, he could tell the distinct difference in almost and HELL YES DEFINITELY!!!

I see lots of threads linking to blog posts where some escort has decided to rant and rave about how much she hates you guys anonymously. I’ll never understand the “I actually hate what I do because the guys think they can f*@k and I’m miserable acting like I enjoy myself” blogs that are written by obviously jaded ladies. I’ve never felt like I had to lie about it in fear of losing business. When delivered with tact and consideration, honesty can actually be an appreciated motivator. One gentleman told me that knowing for a fact that he made it happen did more for his ego than wondering about it and convincing himself that it was real.

MSHSEX108 reads

Give it some time. In due course, you will probably find yourself faking it just to keep clients coming back for more. We ALL do it in our professions for career advancement (or at least, the SMART ones do). "That's a GREAT idea, boss! Wish I'd have thought of it! You're the BEST boss ever!"

Posted By: Lovelyelle
I have read many threads on “Real vs. Fake Os”. Even though most guys would rather be able to hit the spot every time, it puzzles me that some guys don’t mind girls faking it if it doesn’t happen. Some guys don’t care either way as long as they’re satisfied. Sorry guys, but NO WAY am I faking it. Of course, I’d rather get off every time. But, if I don’t, it doesn’t mean that I didn’t have a good time. I could never set myself up for future frustration. I’ve been pretty lucky so far, and I have no doubt that it’s because I simply refuse to lie about it.

I saw a new friend recently. We were having a great time, and decided to curl up and relax for a bit. After a while, the conversation turned towards naughty talk. He asked me if he did the job, and I blushed and told him no (one of those awkward truth moments). He was surprised because he genuinely thought I had. I told him that I’d come VERY close twice (which was true), but it didn’t happen. As a result, he took himself to a place where he was completely in tune with my body. Success. HUGE success... Believe me, once the mission was accomplished, he could tell the distinct difference in almost and HELL YES DEFINITELY!!!

I see lots of threads linking to blog posts where some escort has decided to rant and rave about how much she hates you guys anonymously. I’ll never understand the “I actually hate what I do because the guys think they can f*@k and I’m miserable acting like I enjoy myself” blogs that are written by obviously jaded ladies. I’ve never felt like I had to lie about it in fear of losing business. When delivered with tact and consideration, honesty can actually be an appreciated motivator. One gentleman told me that knowing for a fact that he made it happen did more for his ego than wondering about it and convincing himself that it was real.

Sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. For every guy who won't see me as a result of me not faking an "O", there'll be plenty more who appreciate the honesty. I haven't had a problem so far. I have a great time/show my partner a great time whether I get the big "O" or not because it's not about me in the end. Now, if he WANTS to make it all about me, that's his choice. But, I can't fake it when I have no issues giving a bit of direction if he's not on the right path. As a result, they keep coming back anyway. I'd rather my boss respect me for refusing to "follow the crowd" by standing firm in my honesty than label me a kiss ass. Sure, lots of smart followers do so in order to get ahead. But, there are those smart ones who use tact, honesty, and integrity to climb to the top. There are people out there who actually welcome these values, for they are a few of the characteristics that natural born leaders display. So, I can confidently say, MSHSEX, that no matter how much time I spend here, NO WAY I'M FAKING IT. :-)

Posted By: MSHSEX
Give it some time. In due course, you will probably find yourself faking it just to keep clients coming back for more. We ALL do it in our professions for career advancement (or at least, the SMART ones do). "That's a GREAT idea, boss! Wish I'd have thought of it! You're the BEST boss ever!"

MSHSEX125 reads

Like I said, give it some time. I'm sure you don't have to resort to such tactics now, while you're in your prime. But later, it just might mean the difference between booking a client or not.

Posted By: Lovelyelle
Sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. For every guy who won't see me as a result of me not faking an "O", there'll be plenty more who appreciate the honesty. I haven't had a problem so far. I have a great time/show my partner a great time whether I get the big "O" or not because it's not about me in the end. Now, if he WANTS to make it all about me, that's his choice. But, I can't fake it when I have no issues giving a bit of direction if he's not on the right path. As a result, they keep coming back anyway. I'd rather my boss respect me for refusing to "follow the crowd" by standing firm in my honesty than label me a kiss ass. Sure, lots of smart followers do so in order to get ahead. But, there are those smart ones who use tact, honesty, and integrity to climb to the top. There are people out there who actually welcome these values, for they are a few of the characteristics that natural born leaders display. So, I can confidently say, MSHSEX, that no matter how much time I spend here, NO WAY I'M FAKING IT. :-)
Posted By: MSHSEX
Give it some time. In due course, you will probably find yourself faking it just to keep clients coming back for more. We ALL do it in our professions for career advancement (or at least, the SMART ones do). "That's a GREAT idea, boss! Wish I'd have thought of it! You're the BEST boss ever!"

Like I said, I strongly disagree. The day I have to fake it to make it is the day I'll happily take my walking papers. And besides, who says I MUST orgasm to keep a guy coming back??? Since when is faking an orgasm the key to success in this business?

Posted By: MSHSEX
Like I said, give it some time. I'm sure you don't have to resort to such tactics now, while you're in your prime. But later, it just might mean the difference between booking a client or not.
Posted By: Lovelyelle
Sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. For every guy who won't see me as a result of me not faking an "O", there'll be plenty more who appreciate the honesty. I haven't had a problem so far. I have a great time/show my partner a great time whether I get the big "O" or not because it's not about me in the end. Now, if he WANTS to make it all about me, that's his choice. But, I can't fake it when I have no issues giving a bit of direction if he's not on the right path. As a result, they keep coming back anyway. I'd rather my boss respect me for refusing to "follow the crowd" by standing firm in my honesty than label me a kiss ass. Sure, lots of smart followers do so in order to get ahead. But, there are those smart ones who use tact, honesty, and integrity to climb to the top. There are people out there who actually welcome these values, for they are a few of the characteristics that natural born leaders display. So, I can confidently say, MSHSEX, that no matter how much time I spend here, NO WAY I'M FAKING IT. :-)
Posted By: MSHSEX
Give it some time. In due course, you will probably find yourself faking it just to keep clients coming back for more. We ALL do it in our professions for career advancement (or at least, the SMART ones do). "That's a GREAT idea, boss! Wish I'd have thought of it! You're the BEST boss ever!"

MSHSEX63 reads

This business, like many others, is predicated on customer service. Clients feel great when they think they've made a paid escort orgasm several times in a session. Whether you do it or not, there is no denying that it DOES work in getting clients to repeat with an escort.

With that, it sounds like you have too much integrity and pride to make a client think that he's giving you orgasms. It's your prerogative.

Posted By: Lovelyelle
Like I said, I strongly disagree. The day I have to fake it to make it is the day I'll happily take my walking papers. And besides, who says I MUST orgasm to keep a guy coming back??? Since when is faking an orgasm the key to success in this business?

scoed95 reads

You never get ahead making someone else rich. The smart ones have other people working to make them rich. Now you still have to suck up to customers, but you have to do that as a flunky anyway.

MSHSEX81 reads

So you're basically saying in a long-winded, verbose way that you agree with me (that kissing ass and sucking up to customers is needed to succeed at business). You're welcome.

Posted By: scoed
You never get ahead making someone else rich. The smart ones have other people working to make them rich. Now you still have to suck up to customers, but you have to do that as a flunky anyway.

Mystiquefatale9149 reads

the man was able to tell.  He asked me afterward and I had to come clean.  Ever since then I always feel too guilty to even attempt to fake it. I know for a fact that I'm very expressive with my face so if I'm not climaxing, my face gives me away.  I have a very distinct "O" face that I just can't fake.

I thought it was over, but he actually appreciated my honesty, and tried even harder to help me get off.  A lot of men genuinely enjoy pleasing women to completion, and faking it doesn't give them any idea of what they may or may not be doing right.

And to piggyback on the OPs statement, just because I didn't get off doesn't mean I didn't enjoy myself.  It takes anywhere from 15-25 minutes to get me off anyway.

I had a friend who always faked it, needless to say, after a while the volume of clients decreased.  Could be that she was a horrible actress, who knows.

MSHSEX90 reads

Yes, your friend was probably a horrible actress. It's no surprise that clients enjoy having their ego stroked.

Posted By: Mystiquefatale9
the man was able to tell.  He asked me afterward and I had to come clean.  Ever since then I always feel too guilty to even attempt to fake it. I know for a fact that I'm very expressive with my face so if I'm not climaxing, my face gives me away.  I have a very distinct "O" face that I just can't fake.

I thought it was over, but he actually appreciated my honesty, and tried even harder to help me get off.  A lot of men genuinely enjoy pleasing women to completion, and faking it doesn't give them any idea of what they may or may not be doing right.

And to piggyback on the OPs statement, just because I didn't get off doesn't mean I didn't enjoy myself.  It takes anywhere from 15-25 minutes to get me off anyway.

I had a friend who always faked it, needless to say, after a while the volume of clients decreased.  Could be that she was a horrible actress, who knows.

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