Thanks do not mean to hijack the thread. I am preparing a tour to Philly or D.C in the next couple of months. If you ever want to meet just send me a quick PM to my TER mailbox and say the next time you are in ......area please send me a PM and I will send you a PM once I set up my dates..
Thanks for the compliment
I'm new to the hobby, having seen four providers so far, and need some advice.
I had an interesting experience recently with an experienced provider who had recently moved to town. I had a great time. She delivered as promised from her ads and website. I would definitely see her again, but when I was about to leave, she said, "No review, no repeat visits." A couple of questions come to mind.
1. WTF?
2. How often does this happen? She has had a number of recent reviews - so I'm probably not the only one who received the ultimatum.
3. If she's willing to pressure us to write reviews, what else is she capable of? (Not totally paranoid, just cautious. She's probably just trying to establish herself here but it struck me as odd.)
4. Is this behavior/request something my local board should know about?
Sorry for using the alias, it's kind of cowardly, but I would like some feedback. Thanks
Never had that happen to me. I can't even think of a reason why she would say that. Posting on your local board wouldn't hurt. Maybe she'll see it.
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I've never heard of that happening to anyone. I don't know what you should do, but I know what I'd like to see you do. Write an honest review and put that in the details. Would you really want to see her again after an ultimatum like that anyway?
I know some gals are much more proactive about seeking reviews than others. That being said, a parting shot like that would be a turn-off for me and I probably would not see the lady again regardless of how good she was.
As far as saying anything on the local board I think it is just starting an unnecessary shit-storm. She will just deny it anyway. Strictly speaking she has a right to see whomever she wants.
What good does it do us to have a forum like TER if hobbyists are afraid of posting truthful, but less than flattering information about a provider.
I would never repeat with a provider that made such a demand, and I see know reason the OP should not make his local community aware of her actions.
That said, he would have to come out from behind his alias for his warning to have any validity, but I guess that's his choice to make.
We are both entitled to our thoughts on the subject. My problem here is that we are talking about a verbal exchange between two people. I wasn't there, I didn't hear exactly what was said or the WAY it was said. I have a little trouble with the idea of outing someone over a "he said, she said" story of which we are only hearing one side.
She didn't steal anything, she didn't provide bad service and she didn't NCNS. As I said in my first post, based on what it appears happened I wouldn't be interested in seeing her again but I just don't see how what she did is wrong as it applies to her preferred way of doing business. Which is her right. If she is willing to risk losing repeat business over the lack of a review that is her prerogative. Lots of girls ask for reviews. The fact is, we don't know if she would even follow up on the threat. She may well have just been trying to be clever.
I would feel a bit better about the whole story myself if the guy wasn't using an alias.
you may have a point, she did make her request/demand after the session was over, it didn't really effect the session one way or another, and the remark could have been made tongue in cheek, but taken the wrong way.
See, I'm not really the judgemental asshole I sometimes pretend to be. lol
By reading the various boards, seeing all the specials being offered, and seeing the number of ladies who never toured before begin touring, it is easy to see there is a softer than normal market for some of the ladies.
It is a well known fact that when a lady has a new review hit the boards, the number of visits to her web site and her booking activity both experience a pretty substantial increase.
It sounds to me like this is a lady who may be scared that her business is not as strong as it once was or as she wants it to be and is trying (not very well obviously) to make it grow.
Sounds like a flake to me, I would just stay away from her. I never mention anything about reviews and am uncomfortable if a provider does.
As someone else mentioned, you could post it on your local board but that will just start a shit storm, which is probably what she wants anyway. LOL
I am with the gents WTF?? I know for a while I had many repeat visits, but no reviews. So I either will say at end of a session " Please feel free to write a review if you like." or when i send my standard thank you email or PM I say thank you for a wonderful evening. If you would like to write a review, please do not hesitate to." But to demand a review is just tacky and to provide an ultimatum makes me think her business is really suffering to the point that is willing to lose a repeat client.
I just visited your website, actually 2 of them. I really don't plan to be in Columbus anytime soon, any chance you touring DC or maybe Vegas? Great pictures and reviews!
Thanks do not mean to hijack the thread. I am preparing a tour to Philly or D.C in the next couple of months. If you ever want to meet just send me a quick PM to my TER mailbox and say the next time you are in ......area please send me a PM and I will send you a PM once I set up my dates..
Thanks for the compliment
I had the opposite experience with the first provider I saw. She was with an agency then, and asked me not to write a report (which would have been glowing), because she was already too much in demand and getting pressure from the agency to see more clients. Because she knew of the 15 free day rule at TER, she suggested I write a mediocre review of her so I could get the days. I declined, and respected her wishes not to write a review at all (I later did when she went independent and encouraged reviews at that point). But even that was not an ultimatum -- she simply asked me not to write a review. I have seen other websites where on occassion, its posted that a provider will not repeat if a review is written. They prefer to stay UTR I suppose. But that's stated policy before you even meet.
As for your situation, I would probably write the review and then not repeat with her. As was suggested by Nikki, there is a much more tactful way she could have *encouraged* you to write a review.
"I have seen other websites where on occassion, its posted that a provider will not repeat if a review is written. They prefer to stay UTR I suppose. But that's stated policy before you even meet."
That is exactly why I never reviewed Cameron Leigh.. She told me if I reviewed her there would be NO next time..
I understand why you used the alias. Some ladies will ask me if I will write a review after the session is over and I am on my way out. As Raven said, current reviews cause a spark in business.
My advice is to write an honest review; don't sugarcoat anything. Otherwise, the system doesn't work for the rest of us.
I imagine, being new in town, she's anxious to get reviews in the new location. Could it have just come out wrong or was it intended that way?
I can't imagine such an ulimatum. To review or not is our discretion. That would leave such a bad taste with me, that I'd probably not go back review or not!
I'm with the others. I have a Fav who is UTR, has a day job, asked me not to review. Since I plan to keep seeing the lady, of course I respect her request.
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First off, thanks for your input, I wouldn't have made it this far into the hobby without the comments and advice of the more experienced members of this board.
Second, why the alias? I need advice and don't have anywhere else to turn. I wanted to bounce this off the board before I decide what to do. I know, and agree with you, that aliases are chickenshit, and anonymous accusations are even worse. I haven't ever, nor will I ever accuse anyone of anything while hiding behind an alias.
I tend to agree with BG- 'technically' she didn't do anything wrong. (Don't get me wrong, I'm not sticking up for her.) She has four glowing reviews from respected guys in three weeks, one even mentions that she asked for a review. I honestly believe she hits everyone up for one. She's a busy girl, and no one else has had anything negative to say about her. I would love to write a review and say what happened, but I'm a newbie, who is going to believe me?
On a more personal level, I've followed your advice and established a foothold of credibility, is this worth risking it over? Maybe if I had the experience and reputation of many of you that have commented, it wouldn't make a difference. I've considered sending pm's to the guys who reviewed her, but do you really think they would corroborate my story?
Finally, any thoughts of seeing her again went out the window when she clearly stated, "No review, no repeat visits."
We were all newbies at some point and had to post a first review. While some may take a first review with a grain of salt, don't be afraid of posting a review.