Mt ATF is in Canada. When I visit her I always go home with some extra Canadian change in my pocket. I always mail it to her and tell her that's her tip. We just laugh about it.
1. Do you generally gave out tips? I kind of feel obligated to give out some even though they say it's voluntary.
2. If you do, do you do it afterwards or before (all in the evelp)?
because they are usually giving up 40% of the donation to the house. Indies keep 100%. The old rule is that you tip employees, NOT the owner. Indies technically own their own biz. I DO tip Indies if they are exceptional, provide extra time, or do some PSE things that were outrageous. Tips should usually be given at the end of the session. (At the start, HOW do you know if the session warrants a tip)?
Maybe I'm in the minority on this, but I always put a little extra in the envelope. I just wouldn't feel comfortable handing the extra cash to the lady afterwards, so I take care of it first, and hope for the best.
1. No tips. I always bring a gift, usually candles. One time I was seeing two ladies, one of whom was from out of town. The local lady that I had seen previously and knew I would bring candles, so she asked me not to do so because her friend might have trouble packing them. What I bring are 5 -jar candle sets. Since she asked, and it was right around Valentine's Day I brought each of them a box of chocolates in a heart-shaped box. Needless to say, they went crazy for the chocolate.
2. N/A due to answer to #1
Swim
With all the choices available, I do not see ladies whose advertising talks about gifts or tips being appreciated. (While I think the rare-escort sites are good starter sites [as opposed to others here] one disadvantage is the "gift" template that some women are tempted to use.)
I figure that a gal who has gifts/tips in mind is more likely to be a clock-watcher than a GFE.
Mt ATF is in Canada. When I visit her I always go home with some extra Canadian change in my pocket. I always mail it to her and tell her that's her tip. We just laugh about it.
I think that's pretty lame. I routinely was asked what kind of gifts I liked, what my favorite perfume was and what stores were my favorites by nearly 60% of all the gentlemen who set dates with me before I incorporated a gifts page on my website.
A lot of men choose to approach seeing an escort as a real date and a lot of men like to give women gifts not just because they want to get on her good side but because they truly like seeing appreciation on a woman's face. I am always thankful and appreciative when my gentlemen bring me gifts. They bring me a variety of things from gifts bought for me on their travels to gift cards for starbucks and my favorite book store. Perhaps I deliver that truly desired appointment of the Real Girl Friend Experience so when they come visit me they WANT to treat me like a girlfriend which is the entire point of offering GFE.
Don't think that a woman who has a gifts page is someone who is an intentional clock watcher. Maybe she is just trying to be considerate to the gentlemen who appreciate her and let them know ahead of time how to make her eyes light up with happiness.
~Rae Monroe
Part of the difference of opinion may be generational. Just as I guessed that your use of the word "lame" probably indicated you are under 30 or so.
I clicked on the website link in your profile and there was no obvious way of getting beyond the opening page, so I could not look at your gifts page.
Given the fact that, with one exception, all of your performance ratings are 9 and 10, you could probably say you would like a pony and some guy would bring one.
There are many gender differences that one sex does not realize/understand intuitively, only through experience. After a few decades on this earth, most guys begin to feel as if normally when they open their wallets they are handing $ to a female, whether it is a spouse, daughter, or another. A provider who gives the impression she is soliciting gifts and tips, as I stated, is someone whom I would not select.
If a lady asked my advice, I would suggest she preface her list of gifts with "I am not requesting gifts. This list is here because many men have asked what I would like and I have created this page for convenience."
From your reviews, my dear lady, you appear to be very GFE, who is doing well enough without advice from me or anyone else.
your pictures are really hot.
Second, there is a big difference between specifying gift preferences (I like dark chocolate; flowers, not so much) and blatant greed (I want a black Mercedes SL). Your website outlines preferences for guys who are inhclined to bring gifts, which, personally, I am fine with. There are some other ladies who ask for a house in Malibu or a Rolls Royce. Personally, that turns me off, but more power to them if some guy is smitten enough to actually do that for them.
Usually not. Exceptions made if the session goes OT, or if I knew the lady had to jump through hoops in order to accomodate me. If I know the lady, and the occassion is special, I am far more likely to bring a gift for her rather than leaving a tip...simply more elegent.
I agree with you crazy, a small gift of chocolate, wine, flowers, or something is much more elegant.
I also love Indies however there are some agencies out there that have extraordinary ladies..
1)Yes, just like any other service, if the provider goes well beyond my expectations I will tip. Especially if the price is a real value to begin with..
2)Always afterwards
... Tip #1) Get the VIP membership if you don't already have it. Tip #2) Study the Newbie Board and your Regional Board, as well as the reviews. Tip #3) Do your homework (i.e.--there are no shortcuts and you can NOT skip Tips #1 & #2). Tip #4) Consider providers who have at least 5 or more positive reviews from reviewers who have multiple reviews. Tip #5) Once you done Tips #1 - #4 and narrowed down your choices, contact some of their "reviewers" via PM and glean even more info. Well, those are my "Top 5 Tips" for Your Newbie-Ass Consideration, LOL!!!
Ohhhhhhhh, you mean, "tip providers?" Uh, no. Why would I do that? If they NEED tips, then they should re-structure their prices. If they provide outstanding service, then I will see them again. Repeat business with guys who they enjoy seeing should be their aim, not "can I get this sap to give me a tip?" Fortunately, if you follow Tips #1 - #5 you should find yourself in the presence of a provider who understands this, so it is a non-issue.
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Best tip you can give me is to see me again and put your sweet lips on mine again.
Kisses Haley
In My opinion, Tips are a sign of how much you have enjoyed your time with me.
I have been asked a lot in the past what sort of things I like. That is why I added my Gifts page to my website.
It gives you the option of what to get, if you so choose. But in all actuality...in setting up additional appointments with me I see that as gift enough for me.
Some...like to give additionally to my donation.
Anything in all honesty is welcome.
Just seeing the look of sublime satisfaction on your face tells me I did my job VERY Well!
xoxo
Lusty
To answer your questions:
1) I do generally tip. Yes, it is voluntary. However, as it was said earlier in this thread, agency girls are employees in the "service industry" so to speak, so you might consider tipping them if the experience is really good and especially if you go a few minutes overtime. The amount you tip (if you do) is totally up to you.
2) When leaving the tip, *at the end of the session* drop it in the exact same place on the desk/table/nightstand where you left the envelope at the beginning of the session.
OR
Sometimes, if she charges, say, 350, I will get all 20s from the ATM, and so I'll let her have the extra 10 up front if I know she's going to be good (and if you do your homework, then you'll know).
As far as gifts are concerned:
1) Touring girls are not going to want huge gifts because they won't be able to pack them.
2) Girls who have gift lists on their websites usually preface the list with something to the effect of: "Gifts are neither required nor expected, but are always appreciated." Sometimes they may tell you no alcohol if they don't drink or no chocolate if they think they have been receiving too much of it.
3) A gift can be more meaningful than a stack of 20s. So, if you do view the session as a "date" of sorts and want to give a meaningful gift, see her gift list. If you need more ideas, see her reviews for any clues for anything else she might like. Also, as someone mentioned earlier in this thread, send private messages to other guys who have seen the girl in question to get even more ideas.
Some points to ponder:
-It has been said in countless threads on this board that *THE BEST TIP/GIFT YOU CAN GIVE IS A REPEAT VISIT.* It is little wonder why agencies and providers give priority to their repeat and regular clients.
-In the hobby, as in civvie life, girls who solicite tips and gifts might not be girls you're going to want to see. See the "RIP-OFF" section under the "Reviews" board.
Before I got started and was doing my research on the hobby, I read a wonderful comment that really made sense to me, and still does;
"The best tip is a return visit"