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I found it had a lot of graphic sex in it more than bdsm scenes.... the few scenes they worte about were very brief.... imho...

I have not read the second book which I heard has more bdsm stuff in it... we will see


I am only half interested because I hear ian somerholder will be mr. grey lol

Brothers/Sisters,
I have been seeing a lot of publicity about the book "50 Shades of Gray" where the heroine apparently enters a submissive relationship.  I have not read the book yet but its apparently very popular.  What happened is that I overheard several women talking at the office about the BDSM activities the couple engage in.  Dont know exactly what the couple were doing - the conversation I overheard went along the lines of one was telling the other that she would like to give it a try as it sounded "kinky" but the other said "no way".  
If anybody has read the book - what exactly is featured?   I assume some Bondage and plenty of sex ?  But are we talking flogging and OTK spanking ???   Just wondering!!
I also wonder if the popularity of this series means that BDSM as we know it ( ie the Consensual exchange we know it to be) has made it into the "mainstream" now ?   Perhaps as a result of this series we will be seeing more couples engaging in BDSM ?   Thats a positive thing.
I look forward to some input from the forum.

From everything I have read and heard about it, it is very poorly written and a complete waste of time. The main character, Christian Grey, has serious emotional issues, and the girl (who's name I don't have a clue) is a virgin who seduces him with her feminine wiles and makes all the bad things in his life go away through her submission.

If this is what the 'nillas think is true BDSM then I hope it never becomes mainstream. Media portrayal of us kinksters has got to quit showing us as some sort of abused, emotionally damaged people...even The Secretary places a lot of emphasis on Maggie Gyllenhal's character's emotional self-harm issues. If I can find it, I will post a link to a study done not too long ago that shows that that those who engage in consensual BDSM activities are actually MORE mentally and emotionally put together than their 'nilla counterparts. I am not only a pro, but I am lifestyle as well, and while there are fucked up people involved in BDSM, most of us have our heads on pretty dam straight!

I worry that stuff like this will cause more harm than good when it comes to losing the stigma that surrounds WIITWD.

/steps off soapbox

;)
K

Thanks for the input - much appreciated.
Given that the series has been a huge financial success, it seems to have something appealing to the public.
I guess the next step is to read the darn book myself.  I will give you an update as soon as I do.

There is much discussion of this work on the Erotic Literature Board here should you wish to discover what others think of it.

Mistress Kiley,

i just don't know, there is something wrong about a Woman being submisive to a man IMO.  It should be the other way around!

LOL !!

Fortunately I play both sides of the fence, so have no problem being submissive to the right man, but I certainly do enjoy a subby boy under my heel :D

;)

K

other than that it was great. :) ... i got to page 100 before i stopped read it.
the sensation with the public, i believe, is just the subject (BDSM) and not being a "main stream "  topic.
but hey.. if it gets some people to explore this .. great... more open-mindedness we need in the world.

If this book is the only "resource" as vanilla person is using to help them get in touch with the kinskter within, sweet baby Jesus help them. LOL  I have no idea what the couple in the book was doing, because I don't read crap on purpose.  

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  I am beyond tired of mainstream media portraying kinksters as freaks, weirdos, abusers, weaklings and all other manner of overly flawed humans. The trilogy was written as fan fiction for Twilight readers.

According to Wikipedia: Fifty Shades of Grey was originally developed from a Twilight fan fiction entitled "Master of the Universe" under the penname "Snowqueens Icedragon". The fan fiction then focused on Stephenie Meyer's characters of Edward Cullen and Bella Swan. James removed the piece after receiving comments due to the sexual nature of the books, but later decided to rewrite Master of the Universe as an original piece with her own characters.

Better for her never to have written than to portray BDSM so poorly.

Click link for the whole story on these crappy tomes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey

I am presenting at "The Provider Only Retreat" in Las Vegas Sept 13th and my topic got it's name changed from "Submissive Service:  Protecting the Property" to "The Real 50 Shades of Grey" by the event host.  I figure there will now be women there who have read these books and I will have to address it.

50 Shades of Grey, 3 books: this isn't great literature, but I can see that people find it fun to read. There is a serious amount of drama the two main characters experience in a short amount of time.  I don't believe anyone in real life truly has all this going on and the words of my therapist  25 years ago) "Can you lead your life in such a way that you feel alive without life threatening experiences occurring?" come to mind, but it does make you not want to NOT put the book down, continue reading and find out what happens.


A couple things bother me, LOTS.

One, that the author paints the person who introduces Christian to BDSM as an adult woman, one of his Mother's friends, preying on a 15 year old boy. She is cold, calculating, manipulative, doesn't want to let go, displays negative behavior, never held him, never said she loved him, yaada, yaada. Really? A highly successful women, who knows that much about BDSM, gives him "a code of Dom(me)s protecting and caring for submissives, all the information & training she gave Christian, taking him from a submissive to train him to be a Dom and she is that shitty? Hmmmm, no, no pass, no green card to reality. She gave him the concept of "a Consensual Play List" signed by adults and nabbed him up when he was 15 years old?  Not happening.  It just doesn't ring as possible.

Then there is the wacko ex-submissive who still has a spare key to the fire-escape entrance to the mansion, knows the safe code, gets a gun permit, etc. She breaks into the Dom's fiancee's apartment, hold a gun on her (this is after breaking into his place and making her presence known).  Not only does her ex-Dom not press charges, he baths her, dresses her, he funds her recovery, and banks her life afterwards on a pretty groovy level.  When she is "well", she comes back to the wife's work, introduces her to another of his former submissive's telling her they are part of "the Sub Club" [insert rolling eyes to back of head here], manipulates the wife knowing that the Dom will appear so she can see him, as he has refused.  She gets told to go back to the other side of the lower 48, thank you, good bye.


Maybe I just intuitively steer clear of bad news people. When you love your life, you don't want people around you that suck the brilliance out of it. I digress. None of these wacko's would be in my life.

Back to the book, I just find it dismaying that the author uses characters with lunacy, out on the creepy edges, broken mentality/emotionally/spiritually that practice BDSM on the heavy side to portray the villains in the book. That's just messed up. What is the message here? You are ONLY sane and normal practicing light, fun, kinky, perverted fuckery when it is shared with someone you love and are in an emotionally committed relationship? Ana is working to have Christian grow emotionally so he can have a stable Vanilla relationship because before her, he only had BDSM and was emotionally void.  Somehow, it rubs me that people won't read this is ONE man with problems, they will read people that people that partake in BDSM are emotionally void and that is why we do this.  Ana isn't a masochist. That is made very clear. She likes some play, but not pain. It just isn't her thing. Heck, she is a virgin when Christian meets her. The 22 year old woman has not been out much, nor experienced anything. She has never even masturbated according to the story. She feels embarrassed touching herself even after she is not a virgin.  What about the women on the planet that have fully explored themselves and embrace their sexuality? What about us masochists that honestly love a good caning? I love the sound, feel, smell of the cane. That can be said for all the toys and play I love. I seek out trained sadists, so that I have safe play that won't find me in the ER afterwards. Just saying. In these books, the villains are the best BDSM players. That is 50 shades of fucked up.


and that's my 2 cents worth.



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-- Modified on 7/28/2012 11:42:55 AM

I found it had a lot of graphic sex in it more than bdsm scenes.... the few scenes they worte about were very brief.... imho...

I have not read the second book which I heard has more bdsm stuff in it... we will see


I am only half interested because I hear ian somerholder will be mr. grey lol

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