Newbie - FAQ

As a newbie, you should be sticking to the reviewed ladies and getting your bearings before
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you jump into the she doesn't have reviews waters. lol.

As is possible on any site (and exists on many,) there are plenty of ROB agencies, bait and switch agencies (yes, they are agencies, not providers who do this) and those pretty ads are nothing more than pure b.s. They put them up all the time and rotate phone numbers, emails, etc... and sucker people in. They send out a girl (usually a clueless girl who was sold a dream about making thousands a week for dancing or something) and you've just blown your bucks on nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

I would recommend sticking with the well reviewed ladies or the newer ladies who are advertising on here (bc you can tell they at least *care* to provide good service.)

Katie

As previously mentioned I'm "in development" on doing this for the first time.

What EXACTLY would I expect from a GFE as opposed to a non-GFE. I feel that would be a much better experience, partly because it'd be more...relaxing, comfortable than some weird no-kissing etc... rules that would throw me off.

Also, I've found a few that I like, well reviewed and at least 5 photos which helps to get a better idea, but I find just as many that I like on EROS that are not reviewed here. That's more of a gamble but how is that site thought of by experiences guys here?

I suppose I could choose them down the road - not looking to do this so often and would probably prefer seeing the same person multiple times if it's a nice experience.

Thanks!

At least for me it is. You can expect a lady with whom you'll be able to have a good conversation, will make you feel comfortable right away, possibly have some common interests, and be able to connect with. The sex will come soon enough, but it's getting to know one another a bit, the build up leading to the foreplay, the kissing, exploring each other. That's why I don't think an hour can ever be enough time. I always try to find ladies with their own websites, and spend a lot of time reading the "about me" pages.

Eros is fine, and has a lot of great ladies on it, but without reviews, I'll pass.

On the EROS ads with no reviews here, you should check to see if there are others who have the same phone number who have no reviews. You will find that there are many like that. I view those as a red flag for a likely scam of some type. If it's a unique phone number and no reviews, why take the chance, if there are others you are interested who have a review history? They may be fine, but if you are new at this, why take the chance?

nothing good.  Here in Chicago we occasionally get an influx of smokin' hot ladies with the  URL address link:

lv-monroe
lv-jenna
lv-strawberry

All the ladies have the same contact info and are bad news.  Stay with the reviewed ladies and do NOT let the small head think for the big head.

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Thanks guys. Completely agree.

I'm narrowing my ideas on well-reviewed girls with lots of pictures and posted rates. Especially for a first timer. Oh, and GFE for sure.

Found some lovely ones! Soon I will go VIP to get the details and make a decision :)

Exciting stuff.

One more question - What are your guys' opinions on incall versus outcall from a newbie perspective?

I'd feel more comfortable at my place, but some say "upscale residences..." etc.. - does a medium-cost APT complex where late-twenty early-thirty year olds live and is GATED count?

And what's the advantages to an incall I might not be aware of?

Thanks! I love all the helpfulness I can get here, very nice.

Almost always the woman will have sterling reviews and comments from those that review her, but even with that, a personal connection/click is required.  You'll get the feeling that this is a woman you'd enjoy spending time with, not just sex and go.  Its intangible, its hard to realize its not love, and you need to keep a level head not to go to far, but you'll enjoy it and know you've had a GFE.  Just remember, all those other great reviews remind you she does the same for others.  What's geat though, is that when you find someone like this, you can book longer appointments, you'll enjoy the chances to talk, cuddle, its like a true girlfriend. Just temporary though.

really what I mean is that as a newbie you really don't want to do that.

If you're not looking to do this too often, then you MUST have VIP membership.  The yearly cost is less than a one hour appointment.  If it saves you from one less than ideal appt, it will pay for itself.  When it's a month or two between appts, that bad experience can eat at you for a long while.  

Ignore pleas of GFE on ads.  There is no agreed on definition.  Read the juicy details of the reviews to find out what goes on.  Don't simply focus on the score!  You can also search on services offered, but that may not always be 100% accurate, so use it as a preliminary screen.

Briar is quite correct on issues with Eros.  In DC we have the infamous "cassandra39".  

Do your research and go enjoy yourself.

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Even well reviewed ladies may not click with us...  chemistry is individual.  But at least you should avoid ripoffs, upsells, planned under performace.

GFE sounds great but means  different things to different people.  Reading the reviews...  and your own experiences... should help target likely providers.
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Let the big head rule your first few experiences.  You;ll end up TOFTT soon enough but until you understand the process your better off using the advanced search features on TER to find the "fantasy session" you crave and let the girls now your a newbie.  Always look for providers with positive reviews, remember this site can really help you ensure you have a positive experience and don't end up wasting your time.  If their on TER and they have more than a few reviews, they WILL take good care of you.  just relax and enjoy!  Good luck!

I wish they provided "newbie friendly" options for VIP membership. It would really help newbies get started (like myself).

The cost of VIP membership is nothing compared to how much you lose with just one lousy appt. LOL

Safety is always key.  She'll be thinking of it because many providers are more vulnerable to predators.  There is a very long history about men abusing women, just think back to ancient history, wars have been started over a single woman.  Once you find an ATF you might find yourself shocked at what you'll do to spend more time with her.  Many guys, especially newbies, haven't got a clue what personal safety means, so they will often see the providers safety  measures as intrusive, bothersome and annoying.  Choose providers to see with caution, only see well reviewed providers.

My short answer is when at home, use incall facilities offered, providing they are in neighborhoods you would be willing to visit in "real" life.  While traveling let the providers visit you, in your hotel room.  be smart and never talk about money and services on the phone.  if you have any legal questions either ask a lawyer or go to law school.

It's important to note that many providers use a "crib" for their incall activities.  The crib is a place they use expressly for business.  Some providers get a hotel room, others turn part of their home/apartment/townhouse into a crib.  Sometimes multiple providers share cribs.  Sometimes crib usage is smart and safe, sometimes it's an arrest waiting to happen.  VERY tough to know the difference, in fact after 20 years of hobbying I've been shocked to find out that I was a few days away from a bust.  Don't worry about that, just understand it's part of the risk you can't mitigate.  

The crib allows the provider to (a) keep their private lives private and (b) ensure control of the "working area", and (c) offer their services in other places.  The crib lets them separate some of the work stuff from the personal stuff.  Most providers will take steps to sanitize their crib, making certain that you won't easily get personal information.  Some providers have had bad experiences with "less conscientious" hobbyists these things are important.

Incall requires you to travel, you may need to add time to get to and from the session, often increasing the budgeted time by an hour on both sides, just to be safe.  

Incall also introduces additional risk for you.  Your car and it's contents may become targets of opportunity.  Limit what you carry into an incall,  I never bring a watch, wallet, extra jewelry, glasses, anything I'm likely to lose track of with me.  I might bring a gym bag with MY soaps, a towel, and a fresh change of clothes, but providers sometimes want to check that extra bag for cameras, recording gear and other high risk equipment.  I always carry extra cash, just in case (can you get an extra hour?).  If the need for an ID didn't come up in the screening, i won't bring one.  A lot to deal with, I know, but this is more than 20 years of experience.

Outcall, she comes to you.  First of all, some providers will only go to certain types of places.   The high class gals are less likely to go to the local cockroach-motel that charges by the hour and some providers will stick out at the better hotels  in ways that you might not imagine.  do some research and only see well reviewed providers until you understand the ropes.  Some things should be protected, just to address your natural paranoia.  Remember, just because your paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.  Having said that, never deny a provider the use of a shower, unless you've decided to not play nice any more.  If she asks for one in the beginning, think about it... why would she want one?  When we had daughters I learned that girls are more likely to feel icky sooner than guys.  Just think it through.  Of my hobbying history, I remember two out call sessions especially well.  

My first outcall session (in Boston), she wanted a shower after the session.  I said yes, she took all my toiletries, including my razor.  When I called her agency they laughed and told me that they were afraid she might be a bit of a clepto.  Hotel soaps and bottles were her thing.  Very strange.  Great session, other than that.  Call to housekeeping and 5 minutes, it didn't matter.  Lesson learned.  The agency was very apologetic, offered a discount (half off) on another session, which was better than the first, but hey, i was young!

The second really memorable outcall session was in Canada, about ten years later.  I hadn't done outcall to my hotel room in a really long time and didn't think it through... Earlier in the trip I placed a cheap broken Rolex in my shave kit.  She didn't speak English.  After we finished she wanted a shower.  She was naked, expect for the towel on her head and helped me set up for two dinner reservations at great restaurants in Montreal.  Man was she a turn on, I'm a sucker for French!  As she was dressing i checked for the watch and it was gone.  I tried to figure it out.  This is where I figured out she really didn't speak English...  She sensed my sudden concern, took the phone and called her agency and put somebody else on.  They translated and she stripped, emptied her bag and sat my by bed and "opened" up.  Her submissiveness was a strong turn on and cost me another session but if she had it and I checked her out completely, emptied her purse and checked it closely I never found it.  But always remembered it.  now, I always make certain I have access to a safe, the wallet, extra cash, jewelry and the replacement watch go in the safe.  Lesson learned.  

BTW, I always keep the wedding band on.  A long time ago a provider explained to me how a wedding band can help a provider relax a little.

Wow!  After years of lurking, look what I did!

Louis, you should change your handle to "Faulkner" or something.  What a post!

I was going to make a point about the provider's concern for her safety on an outcall (especially for a newbie) but I think you covered all that and more.

ILoveSanDiego, it's probably easiest to go incall the first couple of times.  Also, the definition of GFE varies from person to person, but you can expect a friendly experience as opposed to a lets-get-down-to-business experience.  Chocolate and vanilla, as they say.

Thank you very much for this help. The personal experiences are pretty useful.

For me it feels/sounds/seems safer for it to happen on my turf. I feel better for it going on here. The only reason I'd do it elsewhere is if my place wasn't high-end enough for some of the higher-end women on my "short list" (to borrow an Obama-term).

As far as all you mentioned I'd have things put away that need to be etc... very good to have that suggestion.

Keep in mind the ones I am interested in have perfect reviews, recent reviews, and long-standing reviews.

Thanks again! Just waiting for the right time and hopefully I can woo one of my favorites to be OK with me as a first-timer. Luckily my skills talking to women are good, as are my manners, hygeine and intentions.

you jump into the she doesn't have reviews waters. lol.

As is possible on any site (and exists on many,) there are plenty of ROB agencies, bait and switch agencies (yes, they are agencies, not providers who do this) and those pretty ads are nothing more than pure b.s. They put them up all the time and rotate phone numbers, emails, etc... and sucker people in. They send out a girl (usually a clueless girl who was sold a dream about making thousands a week for dancing or something) and you've just blown your bucks on nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch.

I would recommend sticking with the well reviewed ladies or the newer ladies who are advertising on here (bc you can tell they at least *care* to provide good service.)

Katie

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