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Re: A clarification on point three
sweetnicole1 See my TER Reviews 764 reads
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Hi Persia,
I started out with outcall as well. Get established and save a little and then you can start to do incalls.
It is best to see your clients AS clients and first off as Gentlemen. If you expect them to be Gentlemen and get that message across, it will hold true to you.
Always listen to your gut intuitions, they are never wrong.
You should do nothing less than an hour appt. Why give away the same thing in less and rush. That is a different breed of men. A Gentleman wants to treat you like a Lady. He respects you as a Lady.
A man who wants to come and Use you for 15minutes does not see you as a Lady. If you are doing an in or outcall to a 15minute appt, your time to get there and back is the same as a 1hr appt.
Rates on your site should be like, 1hr rate
2hr rate a 4hr dinner date
over nights (you may not be ready for that til you get your feet wet)
ect..
Nothing less than an hr.
It cuts back on the losers and weeds out the cheap ass who only wants to use you. Some are different but not most.
You are selling the whole experience of your time. That is all you are selling.
If you do not display that you Value yourself, you will not be valued by men.

Never talk about what you do for what and a Gentlemen would not ask.
If you feel uncomfortable with any aspect of a call for what ever reason...end the call and block his number.

You tell any one you charge x amount of $ "for your time and your undivided attention." That is all!

Relax, calm down and you will be fine. Show confidence in yourself and you will get what you want. Good luck
If you need anything let us know.

xoxox
Nicole

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LovePersia3277 reads

I got my first phone call from a john today..I was so nervous because I am at my “other” job as a secretary and didn’t want my co-workers to hear.  For some reason the guy was under the impression that I advertised as incall, but I know I didn’t.  When I said I am outcall only because I don’t have a place I think that was the deal breaker.  

Do most guys prefer incall??

Also I googled his number and found out he is an exec in NYC on a very prominent street!! I hope he calls back!  (I told him I get off work at 5:30..)

Can anyone give me some tips...I don't know what to say (and of course what not to say) over the phone (and e-mail too).  I wouldn't want to get myself in trouble if LE every called.

I like incalls myself because my home is not normally suited to seeing people and it saves the bother of renting a room; though I do so on many occasions when the gal I want to see really appeals to me.

Ask him if he would be willing to find a room to see you in and that you are just itching to see him.  Lay it on just thick enough, but not to pushy.  It's sort of like landing a fish in a way.  8o)

Just relax and remember to breathe.

Let us know.

There are more demands for incalls than outcalls.  However.. you really shouldn't be taking calls at your day job!  And you may want to refer to your clients as something other than "john".  There are words for us providers that we'd rather not be referred to as either.

tokai2146 reads

Not only should you not be answering at work, you should have a separate phone (don't want to take calls in front of your mother). Put a sexy voice mail message.

With a 2nd phone it is also easy to dump the number if you start getting harassed on it.

and it seems that you have a great attitude.  You need to make sure you screen your dates for your own safety.  Find out what the other ladies in your area use via your regional board. Whether it's Preferred 411 or Room Service 2000.  Whatever works in your area.  That will help you weed out the nuts and LE.
Personally, I would always want an incall even if I'm traveling.

Good Luck

BBxxx

tokai1731 reads

If you can't talk freely, just tell the guy you can't talk right now, and ask him to send you an e-mail or call back at [such and such] time.

If the guy asks about whether (or where) you do in-calls, if you can speak freely, just say you only do out-calls. If you can't speak freely, then say something like: "I would be happy to stop by your office". Hopefully he gets the hint.

Never talk about sex. Limit your talk about money to cost for an hour (or whatever time frame he asks for).

If he asks about sex (do you do such and such), play dumb, and say that you are not that type of escort, and that he must have the wrong impression about you.

If he asks about what do you do for the hour (what does he get), just refer him back to your website for the description about your services.

Tip: Don't list rates for less than 1 hour. If you want to be GFE, you can't do it in less than 1 hour. IMHO, you really don't want the guys looking for 30 minutes.


First, congrats and welcome to the wonderful world of being a provider. It's a beautiful and monetarily rewarding (for you) thing. Here are some helpful hints.

Number one, when a hobbyist calls a provider, we assume that she can TALK to us and provide us with pertinent information. It's fine that you have another job, but if you cant speak freely than you shouldn’t be taking calls and trying to answer questions. Your nervousness about your co-workers over hearing you will without a doubt come across over the phone. You will sound hurried and rushed which is a definite red flag and deal breaker to a lot of men. We want the ladies to be excited about seeing us, and if you sound rushed and really not interested in talking, its a BIG time mark against you. A lot of men will not give you a second chance if they do not get a good feeling from you about the initial phone call.  

You either need to only take calls before 9:00AM or after 6:00PM (presuming you are home), or tell the gentleman when he calls that you would love to speak to him, but now is not a good time. Is there a more convenient time for you to return his phone call? If he will not give you a number, than tell him when he should call you back. Or, you could always ask him to politely E-mail you his appointment request/ or questions he may have. Some ladies in fact only communicate through E-mail. If you feel you never have an appropriate time talk, then E-mail may work best for you.

Number two. What to say and what not to say. Obviously, you NEVER mention anything sexual in nature. If you receive a call or an E-mail with anything that remotely suggests a sexual act, do not take the call and delete the E-mail. Never give that person a second chance. Really your initial contact with a hobbyist should be to just set up a date/time for your meeting. Anything beyond that should not be discussed. I presume since you are new, you do not have a website which would provide your basic information (i.e. rates). As such, you will have to answer a question about your hourly rate. However, the hobbyist should phrase the question as "What is your rate for an hour of your time"...again, nothing sexual in this question and you can simply say, $300 for the hour. Period. End of discussion. So really your initial conversation with a new client should consist of nothing more than setting up a date/time to meet, and if your rates are not posted somewhere (like an ad or personal website) be prepared to answer a question as to your donation amount.

You may want to put up a simple website which provides all pertinent information (which for men is a physical description, rates and whether you offer incall or outcall). The more information you have available to us, the less you have to talk about it. You can simply point them to your ad. The less said during the initial contact the better for both parties.

If you are worried about falling into an LE trap, then VERIFY your clients. Ask that they provide you with a reference from 1-2 other providers who you can E-mail, or ask them for their work number and you can call them back. Nothing is fool proof, you just have to be careful and screen clients to the best of your ability. Talk to other providers on line and see how they screen potential clients. Each lady is different in their approach to screening and you have to see what works best for you.

Number three. Outcall v. incall. Don’t worry about what most guys prefer. You need to do what is best for YOU. If you live with a roommate or have a significant other, and your place is not available, then you will have to do outcall. If you prefer to meet at your place only, then offer incall. If you prefer to meet at a neutral site (i.e. a hotel room) than you have to determine who is going to pay the cost of the room. Some ladies may book a room for the day (their cost) and adjust their rates accordingly. Other ladies will tell the client up front that if he doesn’t have a place, you are more than happy to see him at a short stay hotel, but he needs to secure the room (his cost).

There are no rules with respect to outcall v. incall. Offer whichever service you are comfortable with. You will have clients no matter what you decide. Of course, you will loose other clients becuase of what method you decide, but stick with whatever works for you.    

Number Four. BE DISCREET. Don’t make mention to the gentleman, if he calls back, that you just "googled" his phone number so you know where he works. It reeks of an invasion of privacy. (not that you meant it as such) Hobbyists for the most part REQUIRE discretion and confidentiality at all times. This sounds like a basic skill, but its one that the successful providers understand. They treat personal client informaiton like gold.

Good luck. I hope some of this informaiton is helpful.          
 


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High Roller2810 reads

Judging from your pics, you could easily command 3 or 4 times your current rate.  At least in LA, girls that look like you usually charge $700 to $1,000 or more...$350-$400 at the very least.  Also, I agree with Tokai, I would take out the 15 minute, 30 minute.  That attracts a different clientele.  Persoanlly, I would never go to see someone that does the 15 minute or 30 minute thing because it makes me think that the girl is high volume.  Plus, a client that wants to see a girl of your caliber should easily fork over the $200 bucks.  You want everything on your website to make the client think that you're the ultimate companion, the high class girl for him....just focus on your marketing, getting reviewed.  Don't sell yourself short.

Persia,

Hardy has great advice for you.  One clarification I would offer is to Number Three.  You probably do not want to do incall at your home/apt.  It's best if your clients do not know where you live.  Furthermore, there is a possibility that your visitors could raise uncomfortable questions from your neighbors.

There are ladies who only do outcalls to nice hotels.  That may be something that works for you in the beginning.

Hi Persia,
I started out with outcall as well. Get established and save a little and then you can start to do incalls.
It is best to see your clients AS clients and first off as Gentlemen. If you expect them to be Gentlemen and get that message across, it will hold true to you.
Always listen to your gut intuitions, they are never wrong.
You should do nothing less than an hour appt. Why give away the same thing in less and rush. That is a different breed of men. A Gentleman wants to treat you like a Lady. He respects you as a Lady.
A man who wants to come and Use you for 15minutes does not see you as a Lady. If you are doing an in or outcall to a 15minute appt, your time to get there and back is the same as a 1hr appt.
Rates on your site should be like, 1hr rate
2hr rate a 4hr dinner date
over nights (you may not be ready for that til you get your feet wet)
ect..
Nothing less than an hr.
It cuts back on the losers and weeds out the cheap ass who only wants to use you. Some are different but not most.
You are selling the whole experience of your time. That is all you are selling.
If you do not display that you Value yourself, you will not be valued by men.

Never talk about what you do for what and a Gentlemen would not ask.
If you feel uncomfortable with any aspect of a call for what ever reason...end the call and block his number.

You tell any one you charge x amount of $ "for your time and your undivided attention." That is all!

Relax, calm down and you will be fine. Show confidence in yourself and you will get what you want. Good luck
If you need anything let us know.

xoxox
Nicole

-- Modified on 4/10/2008 7:02:56 PM

-- Modified on 4/10/2008 7:05:32 PM

I prefer incall and many men probably feel the same way, especially those with significant others.  I haven't seen your site but I would agree with others about the 15 minute sessions.  That would be a red flag to me.  I seen a number ads for girls who offer it, but have never wanted to see any of them. Be care about the posts suggesting you raise your rates up to nearly $1,000.

Porn star rates for a newbie with no reviews in NJ? Agencies in NJ charge $250. A newbie with no reviews should be charging no more than $200 while she, um, learns her craft. Personally, I'm of the belief that you never know who your dealing with in an unreviewed provider.

I can see your point really. If it were my $$ I would not be taking a chance. She is Beautiful, but we all know thats not All that is involved in this business. She may want to start at the going rate for a decent amount of the population, her look does allow her to price up from some of the ladies, gain respect through her reviews and raise her rates as she goes along.  Just my opinion....

Just to clarify, I was not suggesting she do this.  I was telling her that this was NOT a good suggestion.

shudaknownbetter2382 reads

Great advise all around.

By all means do check out & verify your prospects.  Some ladies require a land line number that they'll never use.  Don't discuss how you check them out.  

I agree that you should never take calls at a day job.  You should have a separate phone.  You should not use an employer's computer as they have the right to use tracking software.  These are as much mistakes for ladies as they are for gents.  

Yes, incalls (to lady's location) are much prefered by me.  It is very risky to have gentlemen to your home...  that said one of my fav's does so but she has a cover (consulting) business and does verify people.  You should specify INCALL or OUTCALL in your ad, saves airtime.  

2 call system...  gentleman calls from his car when he arrives at a location you specify.  Occasionally I've seen ladies that can see the arrival from their window (across the street, lot next door, house next door) or one where we met at a coffee shop down the street & I followed her drive home.    

Sorry you're not in my area...
Best Wishes,
skb

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