The existence of your cell phone number in a provider's little black book is not enough evidence for LE to pop you, nor is the fact that said phone is in your possession going to matter. The fact that you have two phones or one is pretty irrelevant.
The biggest problem is when the wife or someone like that finds the phone in your pocket and wonders what this is all about, and that can happen whether you have one phone or two.
(still not a lawyer)
Just purchased a virgin mobile disposable.
It will be left in my office desk draw when I go home.
Therefore calls or TM's won't be responded to promptly during certain hours of the day or night.
Curious from the ladies if it would be helpful to expedite setting up meetings if I leave a VM on it or just the beep .
I don't want the ladies to think I am not interested.
What should the VM say?
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simply tell them the best way to get back to you. If you leave the #, then let them know that it is OK to leave a message if not answered (the good ones won't unless they know it's OK), and tell them when you will be available for phone contact. You will find that they are very understanding.
BTW, great move getting the dedicated disposable.
Good Luck
Thanks!
OK
I tell them when I call for the session.
But should I leave a message on my cell too or go to the beep??
these ladies are going to be contacting you for the first time, and they should not be made to wonder whether they called the right number or not. Just be short and simple in the greeting: "Hi, this is ________________, It is OK to leave a message on this phone because I'm the only one with access, and I always check for messages daily from _________am to ________pm and will return your call as soon as possible. Thanks." (optional insert: and I have a thirteen inch tongue strong enough to tow a jeep.)"
Obviously you can check your messages remotely, but don't ruin the purpose of the throw away by calling for messages on it from your own cell.
Edited after reading Trygger's response: he has a great point. If you aren't sure of the security of the phone, reconsider leaving the message greeting.
Good luck
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IF the phone were to get discovered by someone, I want plausible deniability. That would consist of claiming that I found the phone. That doesn't work to well if my voice is on the voicemail. I also clear the call logs and phonebook often. I never use the phonebook to store numbers. I add them when needed and delete as soon as no longer needed.
No doubt the lack of a greeting makes some ladies uncomfortable and they may not leave a message. But most are discreet enough to leave a bland message saying they are returning the call and please contact them.
Are they really only useful for protecting you from a wife/girlfriend or is it a good idea to use one anyone for legal purposes. I am single and have no reason to hide anything on my phone. I have considered the disposable phone it seems like a hassle to have 2 phones when I can easily use my own, but if it can help me in a legal way, then perhaps it will be worth it. Any advice?
The existence of your cell phone number in a provider's little black book is not enough evidence for LE to pop you, nor is the fact that said phone is in your possession going to matter. The fact that you have two phones or one is pretty irrelevant.
The biggest problem is when the wife or someone like that finds the phone in your pocket and wonders what this is all about, and that can happen whether you have one phone or two.
(still not a lawyer)
OK..
Then why do you need a dedicated disposable cell phone?
If you've got a truly disposable phone (e.g. the phone carrier has no idea who you are) then it can provide insurance for all sorts of things.
It is possible that if an agency gets busted the DA will be going through the phone records contacting clients (after getting account info from the phone carrier) and trying to get information/testimony from them. Throwing your phone away solves that problem if you don't want to deal with it. I'm not sure how common this would be after busts. But the DC madam's phone records were searchable online. Would you want your friends searching through them.
A provider, her SO, or a stalker client might become a problem. If your phone is the only contact info they have, then you can throw it away without needing to get rid of the phone number that your clothed friends use.
These are very rare events, but a disposable phone helps you exit anonymously.
As you suggest, the real value is for keeping things from a SO.
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in my desk except when I am setting up a date (phone kept in company car) or going to a date. When I contact ladies I tell them to let me know in advance if they want to chat. Some ladies use a phone call as part of their screening process.
I do prefer and expect to chat with my Gentlemen prior to any timer spent. I can get a feel for who they are and what they are all about from the simplest of phone conversations. Phone presence can say a great deal about a person and how they respect others and I do use it as a tool to screen for who will suite my preferences as well.
I have a disposable phone... the main risk is not LE but a SO. If one uses company computer, that leaves tracks and employer has the right to moniter activity, even install software.
You just don't want to be sloppy and leave tracks that could some day bite you in the ass. Even if you are single.
S