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Let me try and be a little nicer about this
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When you are first contacting a provider you will be judged only on that first communication.  So think how you would react to that first communication if you were in her shoes.  Let me give you an example I just pulled from my e-mail files.  A provider once had a ad with both her phone number and e-mail address.  I could not tell if she was local or touring for a short time.  Since it was an initial communication just to see about setting a date later, I didn't want to bother her with a text.  So I send an e-mail because I felt she could respond at her leisure rather than being interrupted by a text.  

I asked her to clarify if she would be in the area for just a short while.  Her first response I felt was nice.  She said:

"Good evening,  
My apologies for not getting back to you sooner.
I am local.
If you like we can relax tomorrow.
I am located in XXXXXX.
My cross streets are XXXXX and XXXXXX"

This first e-mail above was nice and properly written in my opinion.  So I e-mailed back and said that was good, I was interested in seeing her but couldn't tomorrow and would try and figure out a day over the next week.

Her next e-mail said:

"Let's make this as smooth as possible.
Minimum back and forth, so much simpler to call !

So just CALL DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS ONLY.
DONT EMAIL ME AGAIN, NOT INTO ALL THIS BLAH BLAH BLAH... just call and ask !"

Maybe she does not understand that using caps is considered yelling, but that gave me the impression that she might have an attitude problem.  So I immediately lost interest.  She is the one that put her e-mail address in her ad and I used it trying to not be unnecessarily intrusive.  Why should I bother risking someone with an attitude problem when there are loads of very nice providers available?  

I know this does not quite fit what you did, but it was the best example I could come up with how first impressions are strongly driven my that initial communication.

Plus yeah also, there is a good chance those photos were taken from someone else since your search suggested that.  Maybe it is the same person using a new name.  But if they are taken from someone else, she is not going to respond.  Also, if she is working under a new name, she may not like the connection to the old name.



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Solounuomo1631 reads

I was perusing City Vibe, saw an ad for Tiffany, a lady new to the area, and thought about a date with her.  As she doesn't have any reviews, I did a search then messaged her for photos that are more recent than the ones in the ad-the 3 year old photos of Jacqueline Olocineva from Agent Provocateur.  She hasn't responded.  What did I do wrong?

...yet you post a question as if you are a naif.  What you are is a classic troll.

When you are first contacting a provider you will be judged only on that first communication.  So think how you would react to that first communication if you were in her shoes.  Let me give you an example I just pulled from my e-mail files.  A provider once had a ad with both her phone number and e-mail address.  I could not tell if she was local or touring for a short time.  Since it was an initial communication just to see about setting a date later, I didn't want to bother her with a text.  So I send an e-mail because I felt she could respond at her leisure rather than being interrupted by a text.  

I asked her to clarify if she would be in the area for just a short while.  Her first response I felt was nice.  She said:

"Good evening,  
My apologies for not getting back to you sooner.
I am local.
If you like we can relax tomorrow.
I am located in XXXXXX.
My cross streets are XXXXX and XXXXXX"

This first e-mail above was nice and properly written in my opinion.  So I e-mailed back and said that was good, I was interested in seeing her but couldn't tomorrow and would try and figure out a day over the next week.

Her next e-mail said:

"Let's make this as smooth as possible.
Minimum back and forth, so much simpler to call !

So just CALL DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS ONLY.
DONT EMAIL ME AGAIN, NOT INTO ALL THIS BLAH BLAH BLAH... just call and ask !"

Maybe she does not understand that using caps is considered yelling, but that gave me the impression that she might have an attitude problem.  So I immediately lost interest.  She is the one that put her e-mail address in her ad and I used it trying to not be unnecessarily intrusive.  Why should I bother risking someone with an attitude problem when there are loads of very nice providers available?  

I know this does not quite fit what you did, but it was the best example I could come up with how first impressions are strongly driven my that initial communication.

Plus yeah also, there is a good chance those photos were taken from someone else since your search suggested that.  Maybe it is the same person using a new name.  But if they are taken from someone else, she is not going to respond.  Also, if she is working under a new name, she may not like the connection to the old name.



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Big P has it right, this guy is pulling our chain with this post to see who will bite.  That's why I didn't give him the time I usually spend on a real question.  No one is as clueless as he pretends to be.  That, combined with the use of an alias does not warrant the excellent response you gave had the question been legit.  

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the girl had no reviews and was using someone else's pictures... why would you want to date someone like that?

unless her rate was rock bottom and she lived next door to you, i can't see why you didn't just shine this one on and move on to somebody that had more of a viable presence on line, ie, reviews, non-pilfered pictures.

but then assuming you just had to see this girl, the second thing you did wrong was call her out on her deception.  i hate to put it like this, but this whole hobby is built on illusion, ie, lies.  nobody likes to be called on their bs, and this hobby is nothing but professional bs (don't worry, i'm in an industry - show biz - that is also built on professional bs.  it would be like going to a play and hollering out "hey, you're not really julius ceasar!  you're an actor from law and order!"  and stomping out of the theater).

if you wanted to see her, just make a date.  if what she looked like was super important and it was obvious she wasn't showing that in her ads, take a hint buddy.  find someone who is showing her real pictures, leave the fake pic girls alone.

Although having the photos come up with a different name is clearly a big red flag that they might be someone else's, that's not always the case.  Quite a few ladies use different names for different purposes, or change their names.  But regardless, calling her out on it was, as you said, not a good idea.

It is rare for me to see unreviewed providers, but I do it on occasion.  When I have run into suspicious photos, I try to determine if they are being used in two different areas at the same time.  If I find that, then it's rather clear they are someone else's.  Then if I have time I try to determine which provider is legit and notify her.  

There are actually some great opportunities out there in unreviewed provider land.  It's just that 90% if the time it is not worth the extra time and risk for me.  

Once I did decide that this one unreviewed one was likely legit and decided to test it.  Turned out to be amazing.  She was a problem with being responsive and reliable.  She forgot about my appointment plus had something come on the day of.  We set a new time.  I get there and still end up waiting in my car 3 blocks away for about an extra hour.  Came close to canceling but figured I was already there.  She finally gets home and says how sorry she was for the delay.  She knocks off part of the already reasonable denotation.  Okay, my impression improves.  Then a friend of her's shows up and the house.  I'm thinking another delay and annoyance as she leaves the room to talk to her friend.  But when she comes back in, she asked if I would like her friend, who was hotter than she was, to join us.  Heck yeah!  So next thing I knew I was having a three way for the same reduced donation.  So she sure made up for making me wait!

When I got ready to leave, I gave her the rest of the full donation anyhow.  In fact, after I left I felt a little bad and was thinking I really should have left a tip on top of it.  But gave me a chance to make it right the next time.

So there are some great opportunities with unreviewed providers.  Unfortunately, there is also way to B.S. and risk for me to bother with most of the time

good for you dude!  but you are right, every so often when you toftt it really pays off!

but it's different to try out new unexplored territory than wandering into a place where are are so many warning signs.  and imo a girl using other pics is a warning sign, tho your example of a lady changing her stage name is valid.

but i took the op to mean the pictures were of a different, established person, which would make me high tail it outta there and move on to the next girl.

Plus with that unreviewed provider I saw, it's not exactly like it was an impulsive decision on my part.  I had been watching her ads for a long time.  I knew she consistently worked in two different areas.  I knew she had a doubles partner in one of those areas.  Though that friend that came over was not her doubles partner and doesn't actually work as a provider.  

So had studied her ads for some time and convinced myself she was legit that way.  I still need to see her and her regular doubles partner one of these days.  Frankly, I don't understand why she was never reviewed unless she does not want them.  Though these days I couldn't review her even if I wanted to because her ads run on a site that TER currently does not allow.

Well everyone wants to tell you what you did wrong but really... What are you out?  An email and a little bit of time.
Did you go to the appointment expecting the girl in the photos?  The ad did not say it was her correct?

So all in all what are you out.....She hasn't responded and that cost you..$  0.00

So what you did right was messaged for more photos and she hasn't responded, so you are out the time it cost composing a email.

Next time Goole search the phone # before you take the next step.

Why would you even bother to contact her and point out she's using stock photos?   Did you you think that would get you a date?  Were you even looking for a date?  Add to that you come on here and make a post about it. On an alias.   Smh.

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