Not one thing is sufficient. It's like protecting yourself from the cold: Multiple layers is the best.
I reluctantly gave out all my info and paid the fee and it is totally useless. Providers still want references and a bunch of other stuff. It is bizarre! We don't get their info and I understand they want to be safe but give me a break. I am cleared! Unbelievable!
But HNY anyway, and you'll find out that your fee was well worth it.
I know it can be frustrating I am assuming you are new and signed up for P411?
Have you tried to do an advanced search on P411 in your area or the area you are traveling to for newbie friendly providers?Some providers however might still ask for additional info like your full name or work info if you have a brand new P411 acct with no okays(references).
Then there are some who will take your P411 membership and will not require additional info.
I am not sure what you meant by we don't get their info.Do you mean providers giving guy's their info?
Well....providers have advertisements,reviews,website,pics, and you can backchannel with previous reviewers etc...to prove if she is legit or not.
Unfortunately,some providers for their comfort level will not see you without okays listed on P411 or some other info she can verify you are safe.
Also make sure the providers you are reaching out to say newbie friendly in their P411 profile.
If you are reaching out to providers who have +1 or +2 or more on their profile then that is the number of references they will require to see you and you would be wasting your time
Not one thing is sufficient. It's like protecting yourself from the cold: Multiple layers is the best.
do you have many reviews?
I for one an not newbie friendly and the screening they do is not based on anybody's personal experience with you in a date. Sorry but chin up! Once you have an OK or two things will be much easier with booking. It will also help if those OKs are from people who are well established who have given other OKs and have a strong review history here.
Whenever I get an appointment request on P411 with lot's of Okay, it's a done deal.
Yes, you got approved but that's it. Get a few Okays and you will love it!! Don't be a Negative Nelly or a Debbie Downer -- Get over yourself.
Put yourself in our shoes. Yes, you got approved, but.... that doesn't tell me if you were a gentleman, respectful, were you on time and would the provider ever want to see you again?
All P411 did was verify your employment, period, end of story - YES you work where you said you worked. What do you want a trophy?
I've met millionaires that were assholes, that I would never okay or provide a good reference for.
What part of this do you NOT understand?
I reluctantly gave out all my info and paid the fee and it is totally useless. Providers still want references and a bunch of other stuff. It is bizarre! We don't get their info and I understand they want to be safe but give me a break. I am cleared! Unbelievable!
Be a gentleman and respectful of the women. Works for me.
A couple of years ago when I only had only a TER vip membership, I got a date with a beautiful lady who strongly advised me to join P411. I did and will now date only ladies that are P411 friendly. Screening is a snap.
Yes! ROFL
Yes, you got approved but that's it. Get a few Okays and you will love it!! Don't be a Negative Nelly or a Debbie Downer -- Get over yourself.
Put yourself in our shoes. Yes, you got approved, but.... that doesn't tell me if you were a gentleman, respectful, were you on time and would the provider ever want to see you again?
All P411 did was verify your employment, period, end of story - YES you work where you said you worked. What do you want a trophy?
I've met millionaires that were assholes, that I would never okay or provide a good reference for.
What part of this do you NOT understand?
I reluctantly gave out all my info and paid the fee and it is totally useless. Providers still want references and a bunch of other stuff. It is bizarre! We don't get their info and I understand they want to be safe but give me a break. I am cleared! Unbelievable!
It does not sounds like you dont have any OKs on there, so the lady might want to contact any lady you have seen in the past.
If that is the case, then you need to find a lady that sees newbies or ask one out for coffee to meet before hand.
Once you get 1 ok, I think you will have a much better experience on there.
Screening is a never easy. I still remember getting rejected so many times when I was new and it just plain sucked!
After having a few ladies take a chance on me, everything has worked out great.
I think it will work out for you.
I have to get on P411 this coming year and check it out. Everyone says is so much easier to book with a lady.
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Can't beat that. Okay, it means Cash In Mail, those funny Canucks.
of losing your anonymity to me. P411 can kiss my ass. Don't need it to get appointments.
Instead of kgirls you might he singing a different tune
Asian providers, but my references are good, so I don't need P411 nor do I need to disclose my TER handle. I just give a few names as references that will verify my hobby phone number.
i belong to p411 and have several oks from ladies there, which i mention whenever i initiate emails to a new girl i want to see.
but i never initiate contact thru p411, only email (out of habit, i suppose).
is there an advantage to initiating contact thru p411?
There have been a handful of times when I have noticed a girl was online on p411 and I was able to send a request and got a response quickly. From that standpoint it can be useful, but if they are not online, it feels little different than an email.
PM them first in the P411 system. Then if I have my sights on one particular lady I follow it up with a text message it let them know I just sent them a PM on P411 about a certain date. It helps let them know and gets them to log in, check my profile, okays, etc, and respond that way. Then if it looks like it's going to work, I usually follow up with the P411 appointment request form unless it's short notice, like same day
I will use both methods, email/personal website and P411, many times simultaneously, especially if I want to be sure the provider gets my request and knows that I am very interested in meeting her. If initiated by P411, the provider member can conveniently go directly to your P411 profile to screen you. It is redundant but it works for me. I use copy/paste to duplicate my personal message and let them know that I sent duplicate requests by different formats.
It could be quicker for sometimes. If a provider is willing to see anyone who is Basic+2 and you have 2 "Okays" then they can see that in your request so they can get back to you right away.
If I got a guy's P411 ID, I could email ladies and claim to be him and possibly get approved to see someone based on that. It is always better to contact through P411 where your P411 ID is embedded in the email and proves you are the person attached to the ID. This improves safety for all parties involved.
Also, the P411 system makes it very clear if you are trying to schedule an appt of just get pre-screened, something that not all guys make clear in an email. If you have the system in place and it is so easy to use, why not use the system rather than trying to reinvent the wheel every time?
If you are a P411 Member, I strongly suggest you go under "Extras" and scroll down and read the following post: It says it better than I could.
06.30.2014 - Checking Identification (re-posted)
You should start with providers who are "no reference required" and request an "Okay" afterward. Once you get an "Okay" then you can see anyone who are "no reference required" or "Basic+1". Once you have 2 "Okays", you should have no problem to see anyone on P411 because they are your references as well. When you see anyone who states "references required", you should expect that they will take the time to check your references so expect some delay. If you are short on time or don't want the hassle then you should look for someone who is not "references required".
I'm not a reviewer but have been a TER member since the beginning. Never had any problems booking anyone. I been dialed in with all the LA Asian bookers since the start but still use P411 for visiting girls and other non Asian girls in LA. It makes life real easy once you learn how to use and search on the site. TER and P411 are the only resources I need to keep a smile on my face.
But as with any other advertising venue, it has had infiltration issues and many ladies choose to continue verification process to ensure safety.
No, you don't get the providers "info"
However, p411 does the homework for you that you have to be approved and prove that you are an established provider.
If you are a provider on p411, if you ignore ok requests you'll be kicked off. If you are outed as a threat or danger, also removed. they run a pretty tight ship.
So, although you should still do your homework and read reviews, p411 makes the ladies accountable. Therefore it's very unlikely you'll find yourself in a dangerous at worst and unsavory at best situation.